Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[Colpy]

well... there's member Colpy! He sure thinks he knows a lot although he has a brazillion insults for anyone with a differing opinion to his.

I have no insults for people that simply disagree with me.

I have lots of insults for the prototypical "progressive" that displays that most irritating of "progressive" traits; a lack of knowledge of a subject and/or an aversion to truth, combined in equal part with a sneering condescending arrogance.

Feel free to disagree with me, lots of people do, if not most.

But if you do it from a high horse, I'll soon pull you down into the mud, the blood, and the beer.

you should look elsewhere for an anti. I'm the best anti here, and i'm pro.

lmao

 

[waldo]

I have no insults for people that simply disagree with me.

I have lots of insults for the prototypical "progressive" that displays that most irritating of "progressive" traits; a lack of knowledge of a subject and/or an aversion to truth, combined in equal part with a sneering condescending arrogance.

Feel free to disagree with me, lots of people do, if not most.

But if you do it from a high horse, I'll soon pull you down into the mud, the blood, and the beer.

:mrgreen: "protypical progressive... sneering condescending arrogance... high horse"!!! Oh my Colpy, that sure gives you a lot of latitude to throw your long strings of lashing, bashing and trashing insults at anyone pointing out your nonsense, your hypocritical positions, your failed analysis, your selective and self-serving data usage... and your glaring American wannabe parroting!

 

[JLM]

:mrgreen: "protypical progressive... sneering condescending arrogance... high horse"!!! Oh my Colpy, that sure gives you a lot of latitude to throw your long strings of lashing, bashing and trashing insults at anyone pointing out your nonsense, your hypocritical positions, your failed analysis, your selective and self-serving data usage... and your glaring American wannabe parroting!

Some people change and "grow"- you don't appear to!

 

[waldo]

Some people change and "grow"- you don't appear to!

well... clearly... you obviously accept, perhaps relish, reading the repeat, lengthy barrages of "bashing, lashing and trashing" insults... you know, what member Colpy describes as, "pulling one down into the mud, the blood, and the beer"!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So, waldo, in all seriousness I'd like to hear your plan for eliminating guns in the U.S. I'll criticize it, of course, but I'll keep it on the ideas, not the personalities. Honest Injun.

Heh-heh. I kill me.

 

[JamesBondo]

Me too.

 

[Colpy]

:mrgreen: "protypical progressive... sneering condescending arrogance... high horse"!!! Oh my Colpy, that sure gives you a lot of latitude to throw your long strings of lashing, bashing and trashing insults at anyone pointing out your nonsense, your hypocritical positions, your failed analysis, your selective and self-serving data usage... and your glaring American wannabe parroting!

Now, you see, this is a perfect example. I gave you, as I often have, a perfectly polite response.....and you come back spewing arrogance and stupidity.

Do you want to try again?

 

[waldo]

So, waldo, in all seriousness I'd like to hear your plan for eliminating guns in the U.S. I'll criticize it, of course, but I'll keep it on the ideas, not the personalities.

I'm not an American; you'll need to sort your own mess out! My interest in the American gun culture stems from, principally, American wannabe-types who presume to speak as Americans... who presume to foster that gun-culture into Canada. Any questioning or challenges I might bring forward (direct or indirect) are in that vein.

Now, you see, this is a perfect example. I gave you, as I often have, a perfectly polite response.....and you come back spewing arrogance and stupidity.

Do you want to try again?

oh ya baby! Your polite response: ""protypical progressive... sneering condescending arrogance... high horse". Apparently, quoting you is, as you say, "spewing arrogance and stupidity"! :mrgreen:

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm not an American; you'll need to sort your own mess out! My interest in the American gun culture stems from, principally, American wannabe-types who presume to speak as Americans... who presume to foster that gun-culture into Canada. Any questioning or challenges I might bring forward (direct or indirect) are in that vein.

All right, then, speaking for Colpy and James Bondo (which I have no right to do, but I think they'll ratify what I'm about to say), precisely what suite of gun laws would you like to see imposed in Canada? Do you have any problems with the current laws? If so, what changes would you like to see? I'll back out and observe with interest, as long as y'all stay on the ideas and don't start attacking the people (that's to all y'all, everybody, myself included, has done it).

I freely admit I have no stake and no legitimate interest in Canadian gun laws or policy.

 

[waldo]

well... after almost 5000 posts in this thread, I'm sure there's been no discussion on a/the gun registry. Do you really want to recycle that one... or all that Harper Conservative described "common-sense" in Bill C-42?

I'm more interested in understanding if Canadian gun-proponents feel their existing gun-rights are being encroached upon... and what is it they really want in terms of gun regulations, particularly those Canadians that regularly parrot U.S. gun advocates, U.S. gun policy/talking points, U.S. gun stats and selective interpretations on U.S. gun related violence, gun related murders, gun related deaths.

 

[Colpy]

I'm not an American; you'll need to sort your own mess out! My interest in the American gun culture stems from, principally, American wannabe-types who presume to speak as Americans... who presume to foster that gun-culture into Canada. Any questioning or challenges I might bring forward (direct or indirect) are in that vein.



oh ya baby! Your polite response: ""protypical progressive... sneering condescending arrogance... high horse". Apparently, quoting you is, as you say, "spewing arrogance and stupidity"! :mrgreen:

You really are a slimy piece of work.

As you just have proven, yet again.

So, have you noticed that when people shake your hand, they go for the Purell immediately afterwards, or are you too stupid to even catch that?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

well... after almost 5000 posts in this thread, I'm sure there's been no discussion on a/the gun registry. Do you really want to recycle that one... or all that Harper Conservative described "common-sense" in Bill C-42?

It would be interesting. I'd like to get beyond "this particular bill is good/bad" to what the people here actually think. Unless of course some particular bill or feature of Canadian gun laws is the perfect solution. If that's the case, it would take very little effort to simply say so.

I'm more interested in understanding if Canadian gun-proponents feel their existing gun-rights are being encroached upon... and what is it they really want in terms of gun regulations, particularly those Canadians that regularly parrot U.S. gun advocates, U.S. gun policy/talking points, U.S. gun stats and selective interpretations on U.S. gun related violence, gun related murders, gun related deaths.

I agree completely. Again, I'd like to get beyond the "this particular bill is good/bad" to their actual positions. Colpy, for example, would be considered moderate to liberal in the United States: he supports a variety of limits on gun rights that would get him thrown out of the NRA. I'd also like to hear James articulate more clearly his vision of gun rights and acceptable limits.

 

[waldo]

You really are a slimy piece of work.

As you just have proven, yet again.

So, have you noticed that when people shake your hand, they go for the Purell immediately afterwards, or are you too stupid to even catch that?

by quoting your own words? :mrgreen: Your insults here are hardly worthy of your usual, of your best... but thanks for scaling it back!

 

[Colpy]

by quoting your own words? :mrgreen: Your insults here are hardly worthy of your usual, of your best... but thanks for scaling it back!

My original words were not directed at you specifically.

Yet you chose to take offense, and go on the attack.

That's fine, you do it every time I don't attack you, because you would rather roll around in the mud than debate, as you are absolutely incompetent in the latter..

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

My original words were not directed at you specifically.

Yet you chose to take offense, and go on the attack.

That's fine, you do it every time I don't attack you, because you would rather roll around in the mud than debate, as you are absolutely incompetent in the latter..

I tried, Colpy. Honest I did.

He's all yours.

 

[waldo]

My original words were not directed at you specifically.

Yet you chose to take offense, and go on the attack.

That's fine, you do it every time I don't attack you, because you would rather roll around in the mud than debate, as you are absolutely incompetent in the latter..

I simply quoted from your post... quoted your own words! That's an attack... quoting your own words? :mrgreen:

you claim, "not directed at me specifically". So, when I'm highlighting the extent of your typical insult-fest, many that you've directed at me... many that I've played back for you, quoting you verbatim... when I do that and you come back with this following reply, are you saying you weren't intending that reply for lil' ole me... that it wasn't directed at me, regardless of your weasel words? That you weren't including lil' ole me in your posting target? C'mon Colpy - man up! Be proud, loud and proud... accept your post and acknowledge you were directing it at me, specific or not!

I have lots of insults for the prototypical "progressive" that displays that most irritating of "progressive" traits; a lack of knowledge of a subject and/or an aversion to truth, combined in equal part with a sneering condescending arrogance.

 

[DaSleeper]

This a-s-s hybrid is only partly stripped
But waldo is complete... a-s-s that is!

 

[waldo]

This a-s-s hybrid is only partly stripped
But waldo is complete... a-s-s that is!

Oh my!

"This site is intended to be a medium for public discussion. You are free to express your views forcefully but we require you to remain civil. Insults, hate speech, and deliberately inflammatory statements, commonly known as trolling, are not acceptable."​

 

[JamesBondo]

It is common for a troll to cry victim.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Well, here's a case of the pro-gun community shooting itself in the foot:


Billy Currington drops out of Tim McGraw’s Sandy Hook concert after gun-rights advocate backlash


By Emily YahrApril 16

After several days of critical backlash by gun-rights advocates over a Tim McGraw concert to benefit a Sandy Hook charity, opening act Billy Currington has dropped out of the show.

Earlier this week, McGraw announced plans to headline a show this summer in Hartford, Conn., called the Concert for Sandy Hook Promise. According to the singer, all proceeds will benefit a non-profit organization that carries out “a mission of protecting children from gun violence.” The organization was created after the horrific shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012.

McGraw and Currington, along with fellow opener Chase Bryant, all received some heavy criticism from gun-rights advocates after the announcement, especially as blog posts with the following headlines appeared:

“Country Singers Tim McGraw, Billy Currington Headlining Gun Control Fundraiser”

“Tim McGraw Concert To Benefit Anti-Gun Group”

“Tim McGraw Poised To ‘Dixie Chick’ Himself With Gun Control Benefit Concert”

It turned into a typical social media flood, but the reaction wasn’t all negative — many also applauded the singers and jumped in to clarify that it was not, in fact, an anti-gun concert. The concert benefits the communityaffected by the devastating tragedy in which 20 children and six teachers were shot and killed. McGraw’s fiddle player, Dean Brown, is a close friend of Mark Barden, whose 7-year-old son Daniel was killed in the attack.

Though McGraw released a statement reiterating that he supports gun ownership but also gun responsibility and safety, Currington posted a note to his Facebook page on Thursday night that confirmed he would not play the show in Hartford, scheduled for July 17. Currington and Bryant are currently both part of the line-up for McGraw’s summer tour, which runs June 5 through Sept. 19.

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As angry comments streamed into McGraw’s Facebook page and Twitter mentions, veteran country singer Travis Tritt initially jumped into the social media fray; though he later retweeted another link that clarified the story. The National Rifle Association also got involved (though that tweet was deleted):


"Country musicians @TheTimMcGraw and @billycurrington to promote and play at gun control fundraiser http://t.co/X8ro79U11c#NRA #2A

-NRA (@NRA) April 15, 2015

More at link: Billy Currington drops out of Tim McGraw’s Sandy Hook concert after gun-rights advocate backlash - The Washington Post