New Study Is A ‘Death Blow’ To Global Warming Hysteria

petros

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Just keep throwing everything and hope something sticks sooner ort later. And then, when you're all done, start wiht the first one again. :lol:

Take a look at the past 17 interglacial events during the current ice age. They all have one thing in common . Gasses are unable to sustain temperatures. They peak and then crash. Crash really f-cking hard really f-cking fast. THAT is what global warning brings.

Buy a parka. You're gonna need it.
 

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2014 was the warmest year on the instrumental surface temperature record.

Faithfully and accurately recorded over what, 50 or 75 years? That means next to nothing considering the multiple continental glaciation events over the Earth's history.

Cherry-picking a small window of time followed-up with the finger stab to the sky and hollering eureka means absolutely nothing considering the past events that all can agree on.

Even more ridiculous is the notion that observing a temp trend over this short period is magically attributable to humanity
 

petros

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Get used to snow where we haven't seen snow in decades. LOTS of snow brings LOTS of albedo that models just weren't anticipating.

The earth has a cooling system that moves lots and lots of water inland.
 

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Even more ridiculous is the notion that observing a temp trend over this short period is magically attributable to humanity

There's nothing magical about it. But I can understand how science must seem like magic to the primitive mind.

Take a look at the past 17 interglacial events during the current ice age. They all have one thing in common . Gasses are unable to sustain temperatures. They peak and then crash. Crash really f-cking hard really f-cking fast. THAT is what global warning brings.

Buy a parka. You're gonna need it.

I have taken a look. You're not even close. You are trying to sound like you know what you are talking about and you don't don't. You can't even expain why the part of the Earth furthest from the sun doesn't deep-freeze every night. Sort that out first maybe. :lol:
 

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50 nyears? So it's your contention that we've only been measuring temperatures since 1965? Hilarious.

I notice that you conveniently eliminated the reference to 'accurately' measuring temps in that time.

Then again, having old man Smith stick his toe outta window and seeing how bad his rheumatoid arthritis is inflamed due to the cold can be an uber-accurate measure I suppose

There's nothing magical about it. But I can understand how science must seem like magic to the primitive mind.

Great, all you need to do is prove it... Contact the IPCC and get them this ground-breaking news immediately.. They will be forever in your debt and can save a ton of time and resources in fudging their data
 

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I notice that you conveniently eliminated the reference to 'accurately' measuring temps in that time.

Then again, having old man Smith stick his toe outta window and seeing how bad his rheumatoid arthritis is inflamed due to the cold can be an uber-accurate measure I suppose



Great, all you need to do is prove it... Contact the IPCC and get them this ground-breaking news immediately.. They will be forever in your debt and can save a ton of time and resources in fudging their data

Even the blind bipolar bears have survived several warmer than current interglacials in this ice age we live in.

New genetic study confirms polar bears survived several warm Interglacials | polarbearscience

While no earth-shattering new information was revealed in this new study, reported over the weekend by the Alaska paper SitNews (March 15), it used a more detailed method to confirm the results of previous work – that polar bears have been around long enough to have survived several past Interglacial periods that were warmer than today (with less ice in the Arctic) and are genetically distinct from grizzlies

Cronin thinks that if polar bears survived previous warm periods in which there was little or no arctic summer sea ice, this should be used in models predicting the species’ response to current climate change.

“It seems logical that if polar bears survived previous warm, ice-free periods, they could survive another. This is of course speculation, but so is predicting they will not survive, as the proponents of the endangered species act listing of polar bears have done.”
 

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I notice that you conveniently eliminated the reference to 'accurately' measuring temps in that time.

Then again, having old man Smith stick his toe outta window and seeing how bad his rheumatoid arthritis is inflamed due to the cold can be an uber-accurate measure I suppose.

Accurate is a moveable feast. The accuracy has changed over time. The satellites were the new fgold standard in 1079, but their algorithms have had to be messed with several times to improve accuracy.



Great, all you need to do is prove it... Contact the IPCC and get them this ground-breaking news immediately.. They will be forever in your debt and can save a ton of time and resources in fudging their data

Proof is for logic and alcohol. It doesn't exist in the natural sciences.
 

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Accurate is a moveable feast. The accuracy has changed over time. The satellites were the new fgold standard in 1079, but their algorithms have had to be messed with several times to improve accuracy.

Great.. Sounds to me like there is even less force in the statements like 'hottest year on record' unless, of course, that time frame is in the range of 10 or 20 years.

Not exactly making a persuasive case for man made global warming here

Proof is for logic and alcohol. It doesn't exist in the natural sciences.

You sure are poking a lot of holes in your argument.

No proof?.... Don't start demanding corrective actions to something that you can't prove even exists and is the result of carbon, GHGs or anything else
 

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Great.. Sounds to me like there is even less force in the statements like 'hottest year on record' unless, of course, that time frame is in the range of 10 or 20 years.

Not exactly making a persuasive case for man made global warming here



You sure are poking a lot of holes in your argument.

No proof?.... Don't start demanding corrective actions to something that you can't prove even exists and is the result of carbon, GHGs or anything else

Hey this is the second day in a row that alarmists have been taking apart their arguments bit by bit.
 

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Great.. Sounds to me like there is even less force in the statements like 'hottest year on record' unless, of course, that time frame is in the range of 10 or 20 years.

I didn't say hottest year on record. I said "2014 was the warmest year on the instrumental surface temperature record." Do try to pay attention. There is a subtle but crucial differentiation there. The instrumental surface temperature record generally, as previously stated, generally goes back to around 1850-1880 depneding on which data set you are looking at.

Not exactly making a persuasive case for man made global warming here

I'm not trying to, and it wouldn't matter if I did make such a case. Idealogues are essentially irrational creatures.




No proof?.... Don't start demanding corrective actions to something that you can't prove even exists and is the result of carbon, GHGs or anything else

I'm not demanding anything. Just pointing out a fundamental principle of science of which you were clearly unaware.
 

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Faithfully and accurately recorded over what, 50 or 75 years? That means next to nothing considering the multiple continental glaciation events over the Earth's history.

Cherry-picking a small window of time followed-up with the finger stab to the sky and hollering eureka means absolutely nothing considering the past events that all can agree on.

Even more ridiculous is the notion that observing a temp trend over this short period is magically attributable to humanity

Cherry picked and fudged to make the numbers work.
 

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Accurate is a moveable feast. The accuracy has changed over time. The satellites were the new fgold standard in 1079, but their algorithms have had to be messed with several times to improve accuracy.





Proof is for logic and alcohol. It doesn't exist in the natural sciences.

You expect anyone to understand what you just said? Do you ever proof read anything?
 

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You expect anyone to understand what you just said? Do you ever proof read anything?

It is really quite understandable. The alarmists want to redistribute world wealth and the only way to do so is to create fear and uncertainly. Something that would be impossible with accurate numbers.
 

petros

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Proof in its general sense is conclusive or overwhelming evidence for something (usually a claim or statement).
 

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Proof in its general sense is conclusive or overwhelming evidence for something (usually a claim or statement).

Proof is what the deniers keep asking for, knowing full well it is unacheivable, even in theory, in science. It's not just global warming deniers. It's the anti-vax types ("Can you prove that vaccinations are safe?") and the creationists ("Can you prove that God didn't create the universe 6000 years ago?").

All you can do is provide the evidence you have--carbon dating, fossils, etc. Then the creationists can just say "Well that doesn't prove anything. God could have just made it all that way." Which is quite true, if God exists and is omniscient and omnipotent.

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