BREAKING:: US Congress approves Keystone XL pipeline, defies Obama

waldo

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But if he does Veto it, it comes back to the House and if they get 280 votes it's passed regardless of his Veto, and Obummer loses. :lol:

What don't you understand... IF Obummer Vetos the Bill it goes back to the house for another vote..

If they get two-thirds, or 280 votes that would be needed to override a veto, Obama has nothing to say.. it's law.

They got 270, I'm sure they can flip 10 votes in favor if Vetoed.

I thought you were an American... in order to overturn a U.S. presidential veto, both houses in Congress must vote to approve the bill by a two-thirds majority.

you're welcome... carry on!

on edit: oops... member Tonington beat me to it!
 

petros

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Is it not a two thirds majority in both houses? Check your constitution. The House only got 270 to pass the bill, and the Senate only 62. Neither of those numbers is 2/3. Also, 435 voting members in the House multiplied by 2/3 is 290, not 280.

It's tallied by how many show up to vote.

There is a vote coming up over three of war with the ISholes that Obama needs Rep votes to support.

Oil will go back up in price all while Mid East imports drop.
 

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darkbeaver

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("The House of Representatives voted 270 to 152 to pass the measure authorizing builder TransCanada to immediately begin construction on a long-delayed project Republicans say is a job-generator that boosts US energy independence, but which critics oppose on environmental grounds")


Boosting US energy independence while being dependend on forigne oil again. Of course the USAs independence will mean Canadas enslavement. A quick look at the treatment of the other oil producing nations by the United States of America spells the end of any remaining Canadian independence. Of course there isn't much left anyway so if we're nice and don't complain to much maybe they won't destroy our culture and flood our country with rock n roll music and sh itty movies and cheezeburgers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-Aikl8hGn-w#t=0
 

petros

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You think the people overinflating oil didn't know long before you did that oil was going to drop in an economic war against savage Saudis and the Soviets?

We are controlling the price deliberately.
 

EagleSmack

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If anything, calling me an alarmist zealot just proves my point. :)


Says the alarmists zealot

You think the people overinflating oil didn't know long before you did that oil was going to drop in an economic war against savage Saudis and the Soviets?

We are controlling the price deliberately.


You hardly expect him to understand that do you?


His mind is closed. Shut off completely.
 

waldo

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Keystone is just for show.

It's political theater that has no proven significant economic impact, especially with oil selling at such a tragically low value right now.
- principally intended for export (mostly) to 'Asian' markets.

- no significant long-term job impact. Per TransCanada's own supplied estimates, a short-term job gain during construction phase of ~2-3000 for a period of 6 months.

- independent studies and TransCanada's own NEB submission actually speak to an expected gas cost increase for U.S. Midwest states... there currently is an existing capacity glut relative to the tarsands product already reaching U.S. midwest refineries. One of TransCanada's own (Canadian section) approval seeking justifications to the NEB was the financial analysis/gains realized by the KXL pipeline... gains resulting in increased gas prices to the U.S. Midwest (as the glut "moves offshore" via the extended Keystone pipeline to the Gulf).​
 

MHz

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We have shown we can turn a grease product into high-grade gas. When we need the grease as a lubricant go you think we will be able to turn gasoline into grease? No, would be my guess.
 

mentalfloss

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- principally intended for export (mostly) to 'Asian' markets.

- no significant long-term job impact. Per TransCanada's own supplied estimates, a short-term job gain during construction phase of ~2-3000 for a period of 6 months.

- independent studies and TransCanada's own NEB submission actually speak to an expected gas cost increase for U.S. Midwest states... there currently is an existing capacity glut relative to the tarsands product already reaching U.S. midwest refineries. One of TransCanada's own (Canadian section) approval seeking justifications to the NEB was the financial analysis/gains realized by the KXL pipeline... gains resulting in increased gas prices to the U.S. Midwest (as the glut "moves offshore" via the extended Keystone pipeline to the Gulf).​

Don't expect the zealots to listen to facts.
 

waldo

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Canadian global warmers believe that human activity is the sole cause of climate change don't they?

what's a "global warmer"? In any case, no... the prevailing consensus is most definitely not that, as you say, "human activity is the sole cause of climate change (presuming you're speaking to warming, here)". The prevailing consensus is that the well-mixed GHG gases from anthropogenic sourced fossil-fuels are the principal causal tie to warming... principal, not sole!

 

mentalfloss

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Are you telling me that scientists believe climate change from a billion years ago wasn't caused by humans?

Why that's preposterous!

*mustache wiggle*
 

petros

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How did the agw scam get into this?

- principally intended for export (mostly) to 'Asian' markets.

- no significant long-term job impact. Per TransCanada's own supplied estimates, a short-term job gain during construction phase of ~2-3000 for a period of 6 months.

- independent studies and TransCanada's own NEB submission actually speak to an expected gas cost increase for U.S. Midwest states... there currently is an existing capacity glut relative to the tarsands product already reaching U.S. midwest refineries. One of TransCanada's own (Canadian section) approval seeking justifications to the NEB was the financial analysis/gains realized by the KXL pipeline... gains resulting in increased gas prices to the U.S. Midwest (as the glut "moves offshore" via the extended Keystone pipeline to the Gulf).​

What is going where?
 

taxslave

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Keystone is just for show.

It's political theater that has no proven significant economic impact, especially with oil selling at such a tragically low value right now.

All the more rush. better chance at getting a good deal on construction right now. Oil prices will go up again so it is only good business to build now.

Don't expect the zealots to listen to facts.

waldo IS one of the zealots.

How did the agw scam get into this?



What is going where?

Everything waldo posts is to do with globull warming. One trick pony.
 

waldo

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waldo IS one of the zealots.

Everything waldo posts is to do with globull warming. One trick pony.

hey dumbass, rise above your perpetual penchant for drive-by and your mega azz-burn from all the waldo-whoopin's you've taken! Have a look at the post I responded to... you one trick drive-by insulting pony!