What about feral people?
If they can't make the decision for themselves then they can writhe in pain and agony just like the self righteous.
What about feral people?
If I've reached the state of diminished mental capacity I want out. But that is exactly the problem currently, people bail before they reach that point because they are terrified they will just linger on, and what happens if some do-gooder decides it's wrong to allow you to die? Well you have to suffer on...because they have decided it's best for you.That works good until they reach the state of diminished mental capacity and who is to judge when they cross that line?
I want out before I reach that point of wetting the bed and babbling on and being abused by care givers who just wish that person would die.It might be better to wait and suffer a little longer.
I'm pretty excited about trials treating MS with stem cells. It can get pretty nasty at times. If lucky I've got another 25 years and pondered what to do if it got out of hand. Would I want my plug pulled?
You are the only person I have ever heard use that expression. You make that decision for them and we'll see how far you get.
that made me LOLThat is what a living will is for If people don't have the fore sight to put one together, well, Darwin. If reading a lot of the posters on here is any representation of the general public, there are plenty of people with diminished mental capacity already.
If I've reached the state of diminished mental capacity I want out. But that is exactly the problem currently, people bail before they reach that point because they are terrified they will just linger on, and what happens if some do-gooder decides it's wrong to allow you to die? Well you have to suffer on...because they have decided it's best for you.
You have to hope you can do it prior to that point.
I want out before I reach that point of wetting the bed and babbling on and being abused by care givers who just wish that person would die.
That is what a living will is for If people don't have the fore sight to put one together, well, Darwin. If reading a lot of the posters on here is any representation of the general public, there are plenty of people with diminished mental capacity already.
good because once I'm laying in bed wetting it and eating my food through a straw I'm done and no one aught to be able to tell me otherwise...far as I'm concerned once one is in their late 40's all bets are off, it's a crap shoot about how good our inherited body is and how good those chemicals are going to function from day to dayWetting the bed comes long before loss of cognitive reality.
Line 'em up. Thousands die by the hands of their doctors every year. What's a few more?
If I've reached the state of diminished mental capacity I want out.
good because once I'm laying in bed wetting it and eating my food through a straw I'm done and no one aught to be able to tell me otherwise...far as I'm concerned once one is in their late 40's all bets are off, it's a crap shoot about how good our inherited body is and how good those chemicals are going to function from day to day
wtf JLM...nothing is written in stone, ya change the damn thing, I have changed mine twice and my will once...come on boyo, go with the flow, there is nothing that can't be changed or adjusted...when one is young one probably wants a lot of the measures available to bring one back as one ages...noThe problem with living wills is they are fine and dandy in a legal sense, but they can be problematic in a practical sense. What a person is agreeable to and willing to sign at age 30 when they are on top of the world in peak health might no coincide with how they feel at age 75 when in pain and discomfort and the relatives are lurking around waiting for the last breath. Then of course if they changed their mind at that juncture they'd be deemed to be of diminished capacity.
You can have full mobility and have incontinence. It's one of the first things to go. Especially for stroke and MS folks.
butter pecan or French vanilla with a bit of chocolate and caramel would be nice right about now actuallyThe ice-cream part sounds okay, not the 2nd part.
wtf JLM...nothing is written in stone, ya change the damn thing, I have changed mine twice and my will once...come on boyo, go with the flow, there is nothing that can't be changed or adjusted...when one is young one probably wants a lot of the measures available to bring one back as one ages...no
I pretty much have a DNR for everything...I'm getting close to 60 if my body ends up that messed I'm good to let it go naturally not fight to do what...enjoy some ice cream and lay there babbling or all curled up after some massive cerebral bleed...no thanks
sure but now we are just splitting hairs, incontinence is an inconvenience many people cope with daily and it does not diminish their daily life much
laying in a bed all day babbling and hoping someone comes to visit or waking up crying every morning because one is still alive is no way to function...in the old days you would have just walked off into the bush and either let the animals feed or eaten a revolver...sounds okay to me
No! Hell no! No possible way!You can have full mobility and have incontinence. It's one of the first things to go. Especially for stroke and MS folks.
agreed on the stairs bit but trust me, a cerebral bleed would make a big difference to your quality of lifeCheer up Sal, as long as you can run up and down 20 flights of stairs a day you have nothing to worry about. With my brain, I'm not sure a cerebral bleed would make an iota of difference.
Cookie dough or apple pie was the last time I had any, that must be more than a decade ago. I hadn't realized that I have been dead all that time. lolbutter pecan or French vanilla with a bit of chocolate and caramel would be nice right about now actually
time to get your mojo on and get some ice cream...I almost picked some up today but decided no, I'll wait for the long weekend next week.Cookie dough or apple pie was the last time I had any, that must be more than a decade ago. I hadn't realized that I have been dead all that time. lol