Isis

Can we combine all the ISIS threads please.

  • Yes

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  • Why of course

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  • Yep

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  • Well I mean really, yes

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And why isn't Russia more under threat since they started that war in Georgia, Chechnya, and other hassles in Dagestan?

So far, the only ones worried about ISIS are the UK under Cameron, the US, and Canada. Nobody else is even remotely afraid despite being so much closer to them and their "threats".



Ummm, you forgot Australia and Indonesia. I'm sure there are more countries out there that fear ISIS - ISIS just hasn't "struck" yet. Wait for it...


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yeah they obviously don't recruit the smartest:

100 foreign fighters executed by ISIS for trying to quit - report

who would have thought it :lol: :roll:
Explains Jihadi John's job nicely. Is the plan to keep renaming them until one is picked they don't like and they disband over it? This is going to be so good when they take over the US Naval port in Bahrain, if they drive boats anything like they do captured Syrian tanks, well . . . pics to follow.

For the record that is 100 less witnesses at the Hague
 

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Apparently the only way out of the religion of terrorism is death. As long as they are happy to murder their followers it saves us bullets.
 

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Explains Jihadi John's job nicely. Is the plan to keep renaming them until one is picked they don't like and they disband over it? This is going to be so good when they take over the US Naval port in Bahrain, if they drive boats anything like they do captured Syrian tanks, well . . . pics to follow.

For the record that is 100 less witnesses at the Hague
so crazy that they wouldn't see that coming
 

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Apparently the only way out of the religion of terrorism is death. As long as they are happy to murder their followers it saves us bullets.
Actually that makes us quite angry that they kill themselves before we get the opportunity to, we are a long way ahead, wouldn't you agree?

so crazy that they wouldn't see that coming
Think how the ISIS Komander would handle it when that came through as a private text and the 100 are right there, still alive and expecting to become Mayer and city council of some village in Iraq. Go stand over @ such and such for a group picture at 21:33 zulu
 

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I'm going to pretend that old earth creation isn't in the bizarre area for this thread, that might not apply to all threads. Not a grudge, it just looks like one. I don't know much about them other than Tom Crusie is a good spokes person as it is a mission impossible kinf or movement but rather harmless, unlike movements like the KKK and ISIS
 

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I'm going to pretend that old earth creation isn't in the bizarre area for this thread, that might not apply to all threads. Not a grudge, it just looks like one. I don't know much about them other than Tom Crusie is a good spokes person as it is a mission impossible kinf or movement but rather harmless, unlike movements like the KKK and ISIS
not harmless at all....it is dangerous...once you get in, you can't get out and they use all kinds of physical, mental and emotional torture to keep you in check.
 

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Women, girls captured by ISIS faced sex slavery, suicide: Report
QMI Agency
First posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 07:47 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 07:56 PM EST
Women and girls of Iraq's Yazidi minority who were captured by Islamic State militants were forced into sexual slavery and left traumatized and sometimes suicidal, according to Amnesty International interviews with survivors.
The human rights group interviewed more than 40 Yazidi women and girls who were among the hundreds captured by ISIS fighters in Sinjar in August.
"Many of those held as sexual slaves are children -- girls aged 14, 15 or even younger. IS fighters are using rape as a weapon in attacks amounting to war crimes and crimes against humanity," Donatella Rovera, Amnesty's senior crisis response advisor, said.
Rovera spoke to dozens of former ISIS captives, including one girl who described another's suicide.
"One day we were given clothes that looked like dance costumes and were told to bathe and wear those clothes. Jilan killed herself in the bathroom. She cut her wrists and hanged herself. She was very beautiful; I think she knew she was going to be taken away by a man and that is why she killed herself," she said.
Another woman, Wafa, 27, told Amnesty that she and her sister attempted to take their own lives after an ISIS militant threatened to wed them to their captors.
"We tied the scarves around our necks and pulled away from each other as hard as we could, until I fainted," she said. "I could not speak for several days after that."
Raida, 16, described being sold to a man twice her age and raped. Her pregnant mother and many other family members were abducted too, she said.
"It is so painful what they did to me and to my family. (ISIS) has ruined our lives," she said. "What will happen to my family? I don't know if I will ever see them again."
Rovera said the international community must step up to help ISIS's victims.
"The Kurdistan Regional Government, UN and other humanitarian organizations who are providing medical and other support services to survivors of sexual violence must step up their efforts," she said.
Women, girls captured by ISIS faced sex slavery, suicide: Report | WORLD | World
 

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not harmless at all....it is dangerous...once you get in, you can't get out and they use all kinds of physical, mental and emotional torture to keep you in check.
(sharp intake of breath) Isn't that form something that should be the norm in any relationship that is based on control, unhealthy control. If you hire a PR firm to help your business do better that is a form of gaining control over potential customers when products might be better off being sold only by word of mouth from owners of the devices. In the end the best product is the one that stays in business rather than the one with the highest PR bill. You can also control 'groups' by giving them good things at regular intervals, motive woulod determine if that is dangerous or not.

In my bookmarks there is a link to a newspaper in Lebanon that made it there because Canada wasn't covering anything on the STL case at the UN and they had a few articles that related to other news about the are and that was about the time Syria went to **** so that is why it is visited. I also have two Russian news outlets that are similar as far as headline content. A bit about the world and a lot about Russia and we don't hear hardly anything amount the business deals they are getting involved in that look like they would help both nations, absent is the West with the exception of Germany. I don't feel any pull to run away and join them or support what they are doing in the headlines if it is something I would tolerate in my local community.

Americans gave up the fight to not invade Iraq when cheaper gas was promised so pressure can take many forms, I'm sure Judge Goldstone felt pressure from Jews over his report to the UN on cast lead. In a corrupt country the change is usually from within the military and it comes from refusal to kill civilians, unfortunately a number has to be reached before that revulsion kicks in and then acted on.
Ignore it and insanity is the next step. Screams have a lot to do with it if that paper was correct, it was about what it was hard to keep officers in zones where a lot of civilians were intentionally being killed. Even with exposure to that I'm happy to see a kitten abuser go to jail, if that suggests a pattern then you are right, I would feel the same for abuse any higher life-form as well.
 

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Ottawa twin brothers' terror arrests shock hockey pals
By Aedan Helmer, Ottawa Sun First posted: Saturday, January 10, 2015 12:33 PM EST | Updated: Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:22 AM EST
OTTAWA — Hockey players who faced off against twin brothers arrested on terrorism charges in Ottawa say they "never would have suspected them" to be involved in terrorist activity.
Ashton Carleton Larmond and his twin brother Carlos Honor Larmond, both 24, appeared in court by video link Saturday morning from the Ottawa police cell block, where they heard a slew of terrorism-related charges against them.
Ashton, who was arrested in Ottawa on Friday, was charged with facilitating terrorist activity, participation in the activity of a terrorist group and instructing to carry out activity for a terrorist group.
Carlos, who was arrested at Montreal's Pierre-Elliott Trudeau airport Friday attempting to leave the country, was charged with participation in the activity of a terrorist group and attempting to leave Canada to participate in terrorist activity abroad.
Both men are being represented by Ottawa defence lawyer Joseph Addelman, who said he will "vigorously defend these charges" against his clients.
"This matter will determine the real value that the Canadian system places on democratic rights such as freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and these will be central principles that will be addressed."
Addelman said he's spoken to both brothers, but would not comment further.
A hockey player who lined up on the ice with both brothers said while Carlos "was an OK guy, (Ashton) was kind of a hot head" who would often look for fights on the ice.
"(He was) very easy to provoke," the player, who asked not to be identified, said.
Ashton was most recently listed on the rec-league roster of a team in the Platt Hockey League.
His online profile lists his occupation as carpenter.
Online athletic records show both brothers were actively involved in sports throughout their academic careers at Rideau High School.
In court Saturday, the brothers were instructed to refrain from communicating with each other while at the Ottawa-Carleton Detention Centre.
The RCMP said their Integrated National Security Enforcement Team made the arrests Friday.
According to court documents, the alleged criminal activity spans five months, from Aug. 1 to the Jan. 9 arrest.
There was no word from the RCMP on the scope of the investigation, or the extent of the surveillance the brothers were under.
The brothers are jointly charged with conspiring with each other or others and with "a person or persons unknown" and "knowingly participating in an activity of a terrorist group for the purpose of enhancing the ability of the terrorist group," according to court documents.
If found guilty of the charges, the brothers could face life imprisonment.
They are due back in court Feb. 12.
RCMP assistant commissioner James Malizia said the arrests "speak to our ability to tackle a threat that is multifaceted and constantly evolving.”
“Through collaborative efforts with our partners, we were able to prevent these individuals from leaving Canada to engage in terrorist activity overseas,” he said.
Safety Minister Stephen Blaney, in Paris to lay a wreath at the office of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, where 12 people were killed in a Jan. 7 terrorist attack by two machine gun-toting brothers, was briefed about Friday's arrests back in Canada.
"As you have heard from Canada's security agencies, we continue to confront and address the significant challenges posed by high risk travelers who may wish to go abroad to support or engage in terrorist activities," Blaney’s spokesman Jason Tamming said in a statement.
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Ashton Carleton Larmond, 24 (right) and his twin brother Carlos Honor Larmond, 24, have been charged by the RCMP with various terror-related offences. Both appeared in court via video on Saturday, Jan. 10, 2015. Sketch by Laurie Foster-MacLeod/OTTAWA SUN/QMI AGENCY

Ottawa twin brothers' terror arrests shock hockey pals | Canada | News | Toronto

Austria detains teenage girls who wanted to marry IS fighters
REUTERS
First posted: Sunday, January 11, 2015 01:08 PM EST | Updated: Sunday, January 11, 2015 01:22 PM EST
VIENNA - Austria has detained two teenage girls after they tried to travel to Syria to marry fighters of the jihadist group Islamic State (IS), a spokesman for the prosecution said on Sunday.
The girls, aged 16 and 17, had been sent back to Austria from Romania, where they were picked up by authorities on a train on Dec. 30 as they tried to make their way to Syria to marry IS fighters there.
Around 170 people, many from Eastern Europe, have travelled to the Middle East from Austria to join Islamist militant groups, according to the Interior Ministry.
Austrian authorities in October detained on terrorism-related charges a 14-year-old boy who was allegedly planning to travel to Syria and had researched on the Internet how to build bombs.
The parents of the girls had handed over the phone of the 16-year old to Austrian authorities when she went missing in December. Data taken from a Russian chat application on the phone showed conversations about the girls' plans, a spokesman for the prosecutors in Salzburg said.
The girls were detained in their homes in Salzburg and the province of Upper Austria after they returned from Romania. The girls had Bosnian and Chechen family backgrounds, according to APA news agency.
Austria detains teenage girls who wanted to marry IS fighters | World | News | T
 

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Islamic State selling, crucifying, burying children alive in Iraq, UN says
Stephanie Nebehay, Reuters
First posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:36 PM EST | Updated: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 12:51 PM EST
GENEVA – Islamic State militants are selling abducted Iraqi children at markets as sex slaves, and killing other youth, including by crucifixion or burying them alive, a United Nations watchdog said on Wednesday.
Iraqi boys aged under 18 are increasingly being used by the militant group as suicide bombers, bomb makers, informants or human shields to protect facilities against U.S.-led air strikes, the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child said.
"We are really deeply concerned at torture and murder of those children, especially those belonging to minorities, but not only from minorities," committee expert Renate Winter told a news briefing. "The scope of the problem is huge."
Children from the Yazidi sect or Christian communities, but also Shi'ites and Sunnis, have been victims, she said.
"We have had reports of children, especially children who are mentally challenged, who have been used as suicide bombers, most probably without them even understanding," Winter told Reuters. "There was a video placed (online) that showed children at a very young age, approximately eight years of age and younger, to be trained already to become child soldiers."
Islamic State is a breakaway al-Qaida group that declared an Islamic caliphate across parts of Syria and Iraq last summer. It has killed thousands and forced hundreds of thousands from their homes, in what the United Nations has called a reign of terror.
On Tuesday, the group, which is also known as ISIS, released a video showing a captured Jordanian pilot being burned alive.
The U.N. body, which reviewed Iraq's record for the first time since 1998, denounced "the systematic killing of children belonging to religious and ethnic minorities by the so-called ISIL, including several cases of mass executions of boys, as well as reports of beheadings, crucifixions of children and burying children alive".
A large number of children have been killed or badly wounded during air strikes or shelling by Iraqi security forces, while others had died of "dehydration, starvation and heat", it said.
ISIL has committed "systematic sexual violence", including "the abduction and sexual enslavement of children", it said.
"Children of minorities have been captured in many places... sold in the market place with tags, price tags on them, they have been sold as slaves," Winter said, giving no details.
The 18 independent experts who worked on the report called on Iraqi authorities to take all necessary measures to "rescue children" under the control of Islamic State and to prosecute perpetrators of crimes.
"There is a duty of a state to protect all its children. The point is just how are they going to do that in such a situation?", Winter said.
Islamic State selling, crucifying, burying children alive in Iraq, UN says | Wor
 

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Islamic State says U.S. hostage killed in air strike in Syria
Mariam Karouny, Reuters
First posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 11:18 PM EST | Updated: Friday, February 06, 2015 11:27 PM EST
BEIRUT - Islamic State said on Friday that an American woman hostage it was holding in Syria was killed when Jordanian fighter jets bombed a building where she was being held, but Jordan expressed doubt about the Islamist militant group's account of her death.
In Washington, U.S. officials said they could not confirm that the woman, 26-year-old humanitarian worker Kayla Mueller of Prescott, Arizona, had been killed.
Her family said in a statement on Friday they are hopeful she is alive and asked Islamic State to contact them.
Mueller was the last-known American hostage held by Islamic State, which controls wide areas of Syria and Iraq.
The group has beheaded three other Americans, two Britons and two Japanese hostages - most of them aid workers or journalists - in recent months. Mueller was taken hostage while leaving a hospital in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo in August 2013.
The group's latest claim, detailed by the SITE monitoring group, came just days after it released a video on Tuesday showing a captured Jordanian pilot, Mouath al-Kasaesbeh, being burned alive in a cage.
Jordan's King Abdullah, who was in Washington discussing how to deal with Islamic State militants when the video was made public, vowed to avenge the pilot's death and ordered a stepped-up military role in the U.S.-led coalition against the group.
Jordan said it had carried out a second straight day of air strikes on Friday on Islamic State positions.
"We are looking into it but our first reaction is that we think it is illogical and we are highly sceptical about it. ... It's part of their criminal propaganda," government spokesman Mohammad Momani said in response to Islamic State's account of what happened to Mueller.
"How could they identify Jordanian war planes from a huge distance in the sky? What would an American woman be doing in a weapons warehouse?" Momani said.
Hours after the release of the video showing the pilot burning to death, Jordanian authorities executed two al-Qaida militants who had been imprisoned on death row, including a woman who had tried to blow herself up in a suicide bombing and whose release had been demanded by Islamic State.
WHITE HOUSE 'DEEPLY CONCERNED'
In a statement released by a family representative, Mueller's parents, Carl and Marsha Mueller of Arizona, asked the Islamic State group to contact the family privately.
"You told us that you treated Kayla as your guest, as your guest her safety and well-being remains your responsibility," they said in a message directed to "those in positions of responsibility for holding Kayla."
White House National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said the United States was "deeply concerned" over the report but had not seen "any evidence that corroborates" the group's account.
Islamic State, in a message monitored by SITE, said Mueller died when the building in which she was being held outside Raqqa, a stronghold of the group, collapsed in a Jordanian air strike on Friday.
"The air assaults were continuous on the same location for more than an hour," Islamic State said, according to SITE.
The group released photos of what it said were the building's wreckage but did not include photos of Mueller.
French journalist Nicolas Henin, a former captive of the group in Syria who gained his freedom last April, said on Twitter: "Kayla Mueller was among the very last of my former cellmates still detained. I was full of hope she could have a way out."
The U.S. military last summer carried out an unsuccessful mission to rescue American hostages held by the group in Syria.
Reuters and other Western news organizations were aware Mueller was being held hostage but did not name her at the request of her family members, who believed the militants would harm her if her case received publicity.
'WHERE IS THE WORLD?'
Mueller, a 2009 Northern Arizona University graduate, had a long record of volunteering abroad and was moved by the plight of civilians in Syria's civil war.
"For as long as I live, I will not let this suffering be normal - something we just accept," Mueller's local newspaper The Daily Courier quoted her in 2013 as saying.
"When Syrians hear I'm an American, they ask, 'Where is the world?' All I can do is cry with them, because I don't know," Mueller said.
She had worked for a Turkish aid organization on the Syrian border and volunteered for schools and aid organizations abroad including in the West Bank, Israel and India.
"The common thread of Kayla's life has been her quiet leadership and strong desire to serve others," according to a statement from her family's representative.
Islamic State previously executed American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff and aid worker Peter Kassig, British aid workers David Haines and Alan Henning, Japanese journalist Kenji Goto and Goto's friend, Haruna Yukawa.
Among the hostages still thought to be held by the group is British photojournalist John Cantlie.
Jordan is a major U.S. ally in the fight against militant Islamist groups. It is home to U.S. military trainers bolstering defences at the Syrian and Iraqi borders, and is determined to keep the jihadists in Syria and Iraq from crossing its frontiers.
Kayla Mueller, 26, an American humanitarian worker from Prescott, Arizona is pictured in this undated handout photo obtained by Reuters February 6, 2015. REUTERS/Mueller Family/Handout via Reuters

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Islamic State says U.S. hostage killed in air strike in Syria
Mariam Karouny, Reuters
First posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 11:18 PM EST | Updated: Friday, February 06, 2015 11:27 PM EST
BEIRUT - Islamic State said on Friday that an American woman hostage it was holding in Syria was killed when Jordanian fighter jets bombed a building where she was being held, but Jordan expressed doubt about the Islamist militant group's account of her death.
In Washington, U.S. officials said they could not confirm that the woman, 26-year-old humanitarian worker Kayla Mueller of Prescott, Arizona, had been killed.
Her family said in a statement on Friday they are hopeful she is alive and asked Islamic State to contact them.
Mueller was the last-known American hostage held by Islamic State, which controls wide areas of Syria and Iraq.
The group has beheaded three other Americans, two Britons and two Japanese hostages - most of them aid workers or journalists - in recent months. Mueller was taken hostage while leaving a hospital in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo in August 2013.
The group's latest claim, detailed by the SITE monitoring group, came just days after it released a video on Tuesday showing a captured Jordanian pilot, Mouath al-Kasaesbeh, being burned alive in a cage.
Jordan's King Abdullah, who was in Washington discussing how to deal with Islamic State militants when the video was made public, vowed to avenge the pilot's death and ordered a stepped-up military role in the U.S.-led coalition against the group.
Jordan said it had carried out a second straight day of air strikes on Friday on Islamic State positions.
"We are looking into it but our first reaction is that we think it is illogical and we are highly sceptical about it. ... It's part of their criminal propaganda," government spokesman Mohammad Momani said in response to Islamic State's account of what happened to Mueller.
"How could they identify Jordanian war planes from a huge distance in the sky? What would an American woman be doing in a weapons warehouse?" Momani said.
Hours after the release of the video showing the pilot burning to death, Jordanian authorities executed two al-Qaida militants who had been imprisoned on death row, including a woman who had tried to blow herself up in a suicide bombing and whose release had been demanded by Islamic State.
WHITE HOUSE 'DEEPLY CONCERNED'
In a statement released by a family representative, Mueller's parents, Carl and Marsha Mueller of Arizona, asked the Islamic State group to contact the family privately.
"You told us that you treated Kayla as your guest, as your guest her safety and well-being remains your responsibility," they said in a message directed to "those in positions of responsibility for holding Kayla."
White House National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan said the United States was "deeply concerned" over the report but had not seen "any evidence that corroborates" the group's account.
Islamic State, in a message monitored by SITE, said Mueller died when the building in which she was being held outside Raqqa, a stronghold of the group, collapsed in a Jordanian air strike on Friday.
"The air assaults were continuous on the same location for more than an hour," Islamic State said, according to SITE.
The group released photos of what it said were the building's wreckage but did not include photos of Mueller.
French journalist Nicolas Henin, a former captive of the group in Syria who gained his freedom last April, said on Twitter: "Kayla Mueller was among the very last of my former cellmates still detained. I was full of hope she could have a way out."
The U.S. military last summer carried out an unsuccessful mission to rescue American hostages held by the group in Syria.
Reuters and other Western news organizations were aware Mueller was being held hostage but did not name her at the request of her family members, who believed the militants would harm her if her case received publicity.
'WHERE IS THE WORLD?'
Mueller, a 2009 Northern Arizona University graduate, had a long record of volunteering abroad and was moved by the plight of civilians in Syria's civil war.
"For as long as I live, I will not let this suffering be normal - something we just accept," Mueller's local newspaper The Daily Courier quoted her in 2013 as saying.
"When Syrians hear I'm an American, they ask, 'Where is the world?' All I can do is cry with them, because I don't know," Mueller said.
She had worked for a Turkish aid organization on the Syrian border and volunteered for schools and aid organizations abroad including in the West Bank, Israel and India.
"The common thread of Kayla's life has been her quiet leadership and strong desire to serve others," according to a statement from her family's representative.
Islamic State previously executed American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff and aid worker Peter Kassig, British aid workers David Haines and Alan Henning, Japanese journalist Kenji Goto and Goto's friend, Haruna Yukawa.
Among the hostages still thought to be held by the group is British photojournalist John Cantlie.
Jordan is a major U.S. ally in the fight against militant Islamist groups. It is home to U.S. military trainers bolstering defences at the Syrian and Iraqi borders, and is determined to keep the jihadists in Syria and Iraq from crossing its frontiers.
Kayla Mueller, 26, an American humanitarian worker from Prescott, Arizona is pictured in this undated handout photo obtained by Reuters February 6, 2015. REUTERS/Mueller Family/Handout via Reuters

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Maybe they killed her and after the backlash of the Jordanian decided their best propaganda would be to blame it on friendly fire instead?

If she was killed by friendly fire, then that might be a relief to her, her family instead of thinking of the fate that awaited her at the hands of isis/isil.

Sheesh, look what it's come to.. Considering the least gruesome outcome with no real thought any abductions will end happily.
 

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I don't think this thread is working...there are too many different issues to discuss...and each has it's own lean

it's like saying all murder threads should be merged...

all jokes should be merged...