2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

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Speech reading is the only part you have to do really well, writing is taken care of. If those ploy works for the Churches without much complaint then why would the Political body be immune to corruption. The 'cure' that was in place was actually called the 'watchdogs and they were a combination of retired at 65 people tagging up with the ones entering University and the speeches they combined on would be the ones that would be submitted for grades.
The money ended the wanting to retire and lead the 'subdued life of a 'fact checker' which is what the old guys did, now they could do it from home, if that was still fashionable.
 

gopher

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Doesn't say a lot for Elizabeth Warren!



IIRC I first heard of her in in 2011 or 12 so it's only been a couple of years. Seems like she has experienced what they call a "meteoric" rise in political notoriety. If her profile has grown that rapidly it must be because the Dem party just doesn't have anyone else who they consider worthy enough of the attention and praise.

Hillary has a great many friends in Illinois-Arkansas and in NYS. Can't say for certain that she is that well regarded here in Gopherland though, of course, she does have a following. But I don't honestly see her popularity profile expanding while Liz's profile is growing every day.

The next two years are going to be very critical to USA politics. President Obama's popularity ratings are growing because of the improvement in the economy and the end to the two wars. If things continue in this matter then the big question becomes, whose side will he be taking? The Clintons did a lot for him during his campaigns, will he now return the favor or go with the tide and support Liz?

Time will tell and it should be very interesting ...
 

JLM

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Hillary has a great many friends in Illinois-Arkansas and in NYS. Can't say for certain that she is that well regarded here in Gopherland though, of course, she does have a following. But I don't honestly see her popularity profile expanding while Liz's profile is growing every day.

The next two years are going to be very critical to USA politics. President Obama's popularity ratings are growing because of the improvement in the economy and the end to the two wars. If things continue in this matter then the big question becomes, whose side will he be taking? The Clintons did a lot for him during his campaigns, will he now return the favor or go with the tide and support Liz?

Time will tell and it should be very interesting ...



I don't think city slickers have the aptitude for judging character that country folk have! Country bumpkins are generally more down to earth. Hillary has conceit written all over her face!
 

gopher

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I don't think city slickers have the aptitude for judging character that country folk have! Country bumpkins are generally more down to earth. Hillary has conceit written all over her face!


Same is true of just about every other politician. As Jefferson said, it's the most sullying profession on earth and attracts people of that nature.
 

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I don't think city slickers have the aptitude for judging character that country folk have! Country bumpkins are generally more down to earth. Hillary has conceit written all over her face!
When you can spot changes in grass as it grows spotting triggers in a small social gathering isn't going to result in me breaking out into a sweat. Shortly I will explain a short-cut. One trick is to follow through as soon as possible and the time you save that is a 'distraction' as you 'remember' or 'duck' can be spent on doing something a bit more productive. The other trick is that a leaf has two sides, both are supposed to look slightly different, if they don't then you have looked at the same side twice. As such optical illusion pics at least get both sides functioning if you choose the more difficult pics that is as good as one blade of grass over a whole season.
Was any of that clear?

Same is true of just about every other politician. As Jefferson said, it's the most sullying profession on earth and attracts people of that nature.
Actually that would only apply if it is a family tradition. People just entering that 'realm' usually have high ideals at the beginning and it is the 'corrupt system' that changes them from that point on. Nornally the banker thing would be the example but Preston Manning is going the be the standard for that for the next 100 years at least. He wanted immortality, there it is.
 

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A fine example of the QOS you are capable of delivering. If you are the anti-troll I expect you and a few others will be getting a drop in wages sooner rather than later.

That is also one bad comeback after another, seriously bad, even for your usual low standards.
 

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"Mitt Romney is not going to be running for president. So you know what that means. We're getting closer and closer to President Trump."

---David Letterman




Sarah Palin at Freedom Summit in Iowa: So we can afford no retread or nothing will change with the same people and same policies that got us into the status quo, another Latin word, status quo, and it stands for, man, the middle-class and the Americans are really gettin' taken for a ride.

Jon Stewart: Y'know, that's the kind of talk you normally hear right before the pharmacist says, "Ma'am, you've got to leave the Walgreens."
 

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Although he’s now widely known as the moderate Republican choice for 2016, Bush ran multiple campaigns for Florida governor while promoting the “deinvention of government” through broad privatization and the rapid shrinking of the public sector—including the transformation of the state's prison system into a for-profit industry.


Now a national candidate facing a public much more skeptical of private prisons and harsh sentencing, Bush currently supports relatively liberal criminal justice reforms and lighter sentencing laws. In the 1990s, however, he played the conservative tough-on-crime issue at top volume.


“People now cannot walk on their streets without fear of crime!" Bush said during his 1993 gubernatorial campaign. "The simple fact is we are not safe. Not in our homes, not anywhere.”


While Florida crime had just begun a 20-year decline that continues to this day, Bush spent much of the 1990s pushing to build more for-profit prisons in the Sunshine State and around the country, with the stated dual-goals of putting as many criminals in jail as possible and saving taxpayer money at the same time.


“Our criminal justice system is also an obvious target for privatization,” Bush wrote in a 1995 essay in Imprimis, an influential conservative publication. “Our prison population has doubled in recent years, and we are spending billions of dollars on prison construction and operation each year. But, according to a number of independent estimates, partial privatization could save an incredible sum—as much as 10-20 percent.”


In fact, Florida's private prisons have notoriously had trouble reaching even the state-mandated 7 percent savings at several institutions.


Both companies were paid $90 million annually despite audits showing the prisons weren't being run as efficiently as state law required, the St. Petersburg Times reported.


Nationwide, the industry's profits have gone up close to 500 percent since Bush first wrote about "deinventing government."


Neither Bush nor Bush's spokesperson responded to our requests for comment.






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Jeb Bush in ‘95: We need more for-profit prisons