The causes are suspected, not know. I think the evidence is pretty strong, but a long way from the confidence level of, say, gravity.
Confessions of a Climate Change Denier
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I look at it in two parts:
1.) Causality
2.) Scope
When it comes to cause, I don't think there really is any more argument about who the primary driver of climate change for the time being.
It is us. Despite other natural factors that are involved, we are the primary influence.
This is no longer debatable.
The real question is about determining the scope of this change as a result of our actions, and what kind of policy needs to follow.
The IPCC just released another report and they have effectively given us 100 years to bring our oil production down to NIL.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/technology/un-climate-change-report-offers-stark-warnings-hope-1.2821093
Here is where we need more investigation and debate.
1.) Causality
2.) Scope
When it comes to cause, I don't think there really is any more argument about who the primary driver of climate change for the time being.
It is us. Despite other natural factors that are involved, we are the primary influence.
This is no longer debatable.
The real question is about determining the scope of this change as a result of our actions, and what kind of policy needs to follow.
The IPCC just released another report and they have effectively given us 100 years to bring our oil production down to NIL.
http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/technology/un-climate-change-report-offers-stark-warnings-hope-1.2821093
Here is where we need more investigation and debate.
We'd better get off our asses and switch to NG as fast as possible even if it requires bullsh-t and heavy taxation to pull off.
I think we'll probably be off oil well before then, and not because of the IPCC. We'll just improve better, cheaper energy sources.
Dinosaur farts or man made? According to the extremists Dinosaur farts causing extinction would be OK but if man did it that would be a bad thing.
There has been little said about climate change as an improvement. Here in the great white north, we should see an overall gain.
A bit of back-up if you care to read:http://listosaur.com/science-a-technology/top-10-possible-benefits-of-global-warming/
A bit of back-up if you care to read:http://listosaur.com/science-a-technology/top-10-possible-benefits-of-global-warming/
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JACKPOT!!! All doom gloom and fear with zero talk of benefits. It was climate change that advanced man to where we are today.
Where do I find the list of benefits in an IPCC report?
All the more reason to pump as much oil as we can while it still has a value. Coal too.
Look to their grant money.
Or solar. Or zero-point energy. Or chemical compounds we haven't figured out yet, or some we're working on, like nitrogen-stabilised metastable helium. Or fusion. Or some physical concept we haven't even thought of yet.
Not all coal is metallurgical though. Germany,land of the greenies even burns brow coal which is far worse than any fossil fuel produced in NA but no one complains much. Maybe their greenies studied economics in school instead of folk guitar.
So we need to wait when NG is already there and being invested into at staggering rates?
No, we need to progress in research and development, and in the meantime overinvest in fossil fuels. Then at some point, the value of those investments will crash, a whole lot of people will go broke, and we'll shift more-or-less gradually to other sources, and people, companies, and countries that didn't see the change coming and diversify'll be hurting bad. Oldest story in the book. Like the silly twats who insist on scouring around for incandescent lightbulbs that burn energy like crazy, then burn out and need replacing, because they think they're making some kind of point other than "Hey, world, look how stupid I am!"
There is plenty of research into making NG more efficient. NG has received the lion's share of eco-subsidies. GE and SIEMENS are raking it in.
How many solar panels does it take to make a 150mt batch of steel in a metal arc furnace?
How many solar panels does it take to make a 150mt batch of steel in a metal arc furnace?
More than it will take in 100 years.
It's weird that you, a scientist, seem to have trouble with the notion that in 100 years, our methods of doing things now will seem primitive and quaint, despite the fact that you have before you, pretty much everyplace you look, thousands of examples of technologies that are either vastly more efficient than they were 100 years ago or didn't exist 100 years ago. The computer you're typing on, for example.