No soldier should be unarmed any longer. (that isn't saying they should have the safety off either)
Parliament- Security measures. If a planned attack had occurred, Canada would have se
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Yeah, really carrying it to an extreme. And you called what I posted over the edge.
Security at Parliament was lax to non existent. Even harpers RCMP handlers fuked up and were replaced. Does that say anything.
I mentioned a planned attack. You then go off on a tangent with nukes.
Well if that was the case nukes would have been flying all over.
Try to get real.
Yup, kinda figured. Too bad for you. Not surprising though. You do have a habit of shooting from the hip without getting the full story.
Security was lax.Not shooting from the hip. You are shooting from a dribbling lip. Get a napkin.
And............................ your point is?
Read the whole conversation with WLDB.... and you won't have to ask stupid questions or make stupid comments.
There is no evidence that there would be a planned attack that would result in the casualties outlined in the OP.
All we really need is an extended perimeter and guards on the leaders.
All we really need is an extended perimeter and guards on the leaders.
gerr with the whole world being a lot stupider than you why are you not a king of something more important than a (bad) internet troll?
How about we put the Politicians close to the doors and the soldiers can kick back in the inner rooms until the sound of gunfire is heard. That would be saving the most valuable Canadians to fight and it might moderate what comes out of the Politicians traps.
As much as I hate Harper and his policies, I recognize that he is actually the most important person in this country and he deserves to be protected more than any other party.
Nope, in putting them between the killers and our soldiers that was make the Soldiers more important than the Politicians.
Not a real shock you missed that but your phobia sure kicked in fast so the odds are it never really leaves you demented mind.
Not a real shock you missed that but your phobia sure kicked in fast so the odds are it never really leaves you demented mind.
As a talking head yes, any General has a lot more common sense that he does and that is the authority that take the wheel in times of war. Being so valuable would be why he was in a closet right?
You lost it with the first 3 words. At least you are a clear example of how the insane mind works. I didn't say they should be unarmed, give them all a loaded weapon, be better than sharpening sticks.
The Gov didn't do such a hot job of protecting the Soldier, the implementation that will come down should have already been in effect, after all it was the Gov and not the military that was making all the headlines about sending our troops off into foreign land to do what soldiers do best, kill other people. I'm pretty sure any Military Command would have protected them more like giving them permission to wear combat gear instead of something you would see on a July 1 parade.
BTW when twisting sentences around try not to be so apparent about it, this wouldn't even fool your mom. How many letters of apology has she written for you so far gerr?
Mental Health and its consequences has been undermined within this whole tragedy,
this is the whole core of the problem with the recent events of extreme behavior,the
whole thing is not related to "Muslim",or Isis or anything like that,it is about disturbed
individuals who never received the correct treatment for their illness and as a result
acted out their malevolent actions.
These complex disturbed individuals are vulnerable,delusional and are seeking a
sense of belonging,many mentally ill individuals find safe places for their path of
illness,others,(minimal) find places of delivery of actions of evil intent,possibly
these actions are driven by hallucinations, delusions,increasing ideation of "anti
establishment thinking",the list is endless with declining mental health individuals,
these disturbed individuals are easily impressed upon,other's thoughts may
become their thoughts,this is not good.These disturbed individuals can engage
in risky behaviour,and are very attracted to the sense of belonging,along with
affirmation,these individuals find cracks in dysfunctional places,they feel safe
in these dysfunctional cracks.
These individuals are vulnerable and are exactly what individuals, organizations,
or recruitments agencies are seeking,for a union of a perfect brew.I have had the
misfortune of knowing some of these recruitment tactics,or strategies,their weapon
is social media with advancing techniques,these are proven tactics of thought
influence,they have been used in psychology for a very long time,there is a pattern.
The vulnerable are being hunted.
Mentally ill individuals self medicate with drugs,alcohol,sex,religion,etc,this furthers
the vulnerability,this increases the risk of bizarre behaviour. Mentally ill individuals
alienate themselves from their families, families are exhausted and alienate
themselves from their mentally ill loved one.
i have a friend who's son is showing increasingly strange behaviour,including isolating
himself and his behaviour,they are not sure what he is doing with his time,their son
is even becoming physically intimidating with his family members,the parents are
very frustrated and want him as far away as possible from them.This young man
has had many encounters with the mental health system,but because of his ability
of manipulation,and being able to compose himself in a 20 minute interview he is
under the radar of being detained for further assessment.Worthy to note the mental
health system is bursting at the seams for access to youth and mental illness services.
One day the parents of this disturbed individual ran to 6 different agencies attempting
to get some kind of resolve and place their son for treatment to no availability,this
running around was a result of referrals given by the previous agencies,I think this
pattern has been going on for many Canadian parents,they have no real assistance
for help.
With misfortune,I was able to have a short encounter with this young man and it was
more then apparent.he was ill and in need of treatment,his content of conversation
frightened me,and what impressed upon me is that he was going to engage in an
destructive activity in the near future,so far "no news is good news", he may involve
himself in some type of radical behaviour, and hurt someone,then he may not,who
knows,it is "wait and see".This young man is not at present "criminally responsible",
and on the other hand he is not certifiable under the mental health act,so we all wait
and hope his encounter with the law is a "mild crime",we hope he hurts no one.
I want to stipulate this is for mentally disturbed individuals only,I know nothing about
the criminally responsible.
Schizophrenia is an illness which robs young men of their youth,it is an illness which
appears in different characterization,it is not always accompanied with outward
symptoms,the illness knows no social boundaries,intelligent people are also afflicted
with this illness, some of the more intelligent and manipulating mentally ill individuals
can present in a more organized manner,accompanied with underlying hostility,this
may be a brew for disaster,and are more difficult to detain for assessment under the
mental health act.
Now to a different situation,
There is no doubt mental health issues will effect individuals who were directly or who
were not directly involved within the tragedy,I could not imagine what the sounds of
those gun shots sounded like in those hollow corridors. i am a big believer you don't
have to go to Iraq to suffer from PST.
I suspect in the near future Ottawa activity will go back to normal,brave faces will be
front and centre for the next while,but in the next year people will be affected in strange
ways in which they could have never imagined,all of a sudden simple things like the
sound of the telephone ringing will trigger strange physical responses,mood disorders,
drug and alcohol abuse,isolation,loneliness,nightmares,the possibilities are many,my
deepest sympathies to the people of Ottawa for having to travel and know this lonely
path of PST,but unfortunately one must travel this path to become well again,and I
wish this path of unpleasant discovery be gentle on all who need to travel it.
I could talk about the increasing "anti-establishment"movement but i don't have time
tonight and most of all spare my readers my thoughts,my apologies for the spelling
errors, I don't know where the spell check is.
good night.
this is the whole core of the problem with the recent events of extreme behavior,the
whole thing is not related to "Muslim",or Isis or anything like that,it is about disturbed
individuals who never received the correct treatment for their illness and as a result
acted out their malevolent actions.
These complex disturbed individuals are vulnerable,delusional and are seeking a
sense of belonging,many mentally ill individuals find safe places for their path of
illness,others,(minimal) find places of delivery of actions of evil intent,possibly
these actions are driven by hallucinations, delusions,increasing ideation of "anti
establishment thinking",the list is endless with declining mental health individuals,
these disturbed individuals are easily impressed upon,other's thoughts may
become their thoughts,this is not good.These disturbed individuals can engage
in risky behaviour,and are very attracted to the sense of belonging,along with
affirmation,these individuals find cracks in dysfunctional places,they feel safe
in these dysfunctional cracks.
These individuals are vulnerable and are exactly what individuals, organizations,
or recruitments agencies are seeking,for a union of a perfect brew.I have had the
misfortune of knowing some of these recruitment tactics,or strategies,their weapon
is social media with advancing techniques,these are proven tactics of thought
influence,they have been used in psychology for a very long time,there is a pattern.
The vulnerable are being hunted.
Mentally ill individuals self medicate with drugs,alcohol,sex,religion,etc,this furthers
the vulnerability,this increases the risk of bizarre behaviour. Mentally ill individuals
alienate themselves from their families, families are exhausted and alienate
themselves from their mentally ill loved one.
i have a friend who's son is showing increasingly strange behaviour,including isolating
himself and his behaviour,they are not sure what he is doing with his time,their son
is even becoming physically intimidating with his family members,the parents are
very frustrated and want him as far away as possible from them.This young man
has had many encounters with the mental health system,but because of his ability
of manipulation,and being able to compose himself in a 20 minute interview he is
under the radar of being detained for further assessment.Worthy to note the mental
health system is bursting at the seams for access to youth and mental illness services.
One day the parents of this disturbed individual ran to 6 different agencies attempting
to get some kind of resolve and place their son for treatment to no availability,this
running around was a result of referrals given by the previous agencies,I think this
pattern has been going on for many Canadian parents,they have no real assistance
for help.
With misfortune,I was able to have a short encounter with this young man and it was
more then apparent.he was ill and in need of treatment,his content of conversation
frightened me,and what impressed upon me is that he was going to engage in an
destructive activity in the near future,so far "no news is good news", he may involve
himself in some type of radical behaviour, and hurt someone,then he may not,who
knows,it is "wait and see".This young man is not at present "criminally responsible",
and on the other hand he is not certifiable under the mental health act,so we all wait
and hope his encounter with the law is a "mild crime",we hope he hurts no one.
I want to stipulate this is for mentally disturbed individuals only,I know nothing about
the criminally responsible.
Schizophrenia is an illness which robs young men of their youth,it is an illness which
appears in different characterization,it is not always accompanied with outward
symptoms,the illness knows no social boundaries,intelligent people are also afflicted
with this illness, some of the more intelligent and manipulating mentally ill individuals
can present in a more organized manner,accompanied with underlying hostility,this
may be a brew for disaster,and are more difficult to detain for assessment under the
mental health act.
Now to a different situation,
There is no doubt mental health issues will effect individuals who were directly or who
were not directly involved within the tragedy,I could not imagine what the sounds of
those gun shots sounded like in those hollow corridors. i am a big believer you don't
have to go to Iraq to suffer from PST.
I suspect in the near future Ottawa activity will go back to normal,brave faces will be
front and centre for the next while,but in the next year people will be affected in strange
ways in which they could have never imagined,all of a sudden simple things like the
sound of the telephone ringing will trigger strange physical responses,mood disorders,
drug and alcohol abuse,isolation,loneliness,nightmares,the possibilities are many,my
deepest sympathies to the people of Ottawa for having to travel and know this lonely
path of PST,but unfortunately one must travel this path to become well again,and I
wish this path of unpleasant discovery be gentle on all who need to travel it.
I could talk about the increasing "anti-establishment"movement but i don't have time
tonight and most of all spare my readers my thoughts,my apologies for the spelling
errors, I don't know where the spell check is.
good night.
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