Gun Control is Completely Useless.

CMAenergy

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Your all off the beaten track
Yes in some ways gun control has it's good points
But not they way they have or would do it
YOU NEED A SAMPLE OF THE RIFLED SLUG FROM EACH GUN
But what good will that do when the bad guys will never have done such

I agree that everyone should have a handgun for self defense, But never allowed in the city limits
I prospect and go into the wilderness.
And packing a rifle is ridiculous.
If your caught carrying a handgun illegally in the city, Why not shoot the guy on site?
He or she has no business doing so except for illegal means

But then comes the one big sticker
It's not if but when government goes radical and starts to take guns away from individuals
Big problem
Why would they do that?
There is only one main reason for that
They want to be the big boys to put everyone under dictatorship
And for that reason everyone MUST carry a gun
Freedom can never be found under any dictatorship
Just look at countries that are communist controlled.
How many people are suffering, and their standard of living has and always will be poor for those who even work hard, NO incentive!
Is that what you want to allow?

Changing the subject here's an article we should all be aware of and do our part to fight
I did mine will you
She Did It Again

She Did It Again !!! W O W !

Australia says NO -- This will be the second Time Julian Gillard has done this!

She sure isn't backing down on her hard line stance and one has to appreciate her belief in the rights of her native countrymen.

A breath of fresh air to see someone lead with guts and determination.
Australian Prime Minister does it again!!

The whole world needs a leader like this!

Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia


Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques:
Quote:

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT... Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture.Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you,then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country that accepted you.'

NOTE: IF we circulate this amongst ourselves in Canada & USA, WE will find the courage to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

If you agree please SEND THIS ON and ON, to as many people as you know...
 

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That is a tragic story. No doubt the little girl will have troubles dealing with this but she seems to have a good head on her shoulders, she will eventually realize that people are responsible for themselves when authorities are too far away. In times of crisis, we have to be our own doctors, police, ems, etc. Our current police force is sometimes refered to as a thin blue line, that minimum workforce during civilized times. For a short moment, her mom needed someone brave, and she was it.
 

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Days-old newborn shot in head in apparent hunting accident
Elizabeth Daley, Reuters
First posted: Monday, September 29, 2014 03:52 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, September 29, 2014 04:08 PM EDT
A newborn baby was in critical condition on Monday after being shot in the head in western Pennsylvania while lying on his father's lap at home, an incident that appears to have been a hunting accident, prosecutors say.
The infant, identified by local media as Thayne Iverson, was just days old when a stray bullet struck him in the head on Sept. 25 at around 7 p.m., said Dianna Rostis, a spokeswoman for the Indiana County District Attorney's office.
She declined to confirm the infant's name or identify the father.
Rostis said an investigation was underway, but it appears that two men were "red-tag hunting" for deer on a neighboring property when a stray bullet entered a window of the home, seriously wounding the baby and grazing his father.
Red-tag hunting allows authorized hunters to kill deer on certain properties to protect agriculture, Rostis explained.
The bullet entered the child's head from the back and exited through his eye socket. The child was airlifted to Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh where he remains, according to Rostis. Local media reports say the baby has been blinded.
Rostis said no charges have been filed against the hunters, but the Pennsylvania Game Commission and the Pennsylvania State Police are continuing to investigate.
Days-old newborn shot in head in apparent hunting accident | Pennsylvania | Worl
 

CMAenergy

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Does that count against the bag limit?
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This is definitely tragic. And these hunters should be charged with murder
They had to have known there was a house there and in no way should they have fired in that direction, The bullet trajectory would definitely have been of such they were close enough to realize this would happen,
Even such as a 7 mill mag at 500 yards would drop close to 4 feet putting it on a down ward spiral. and it drops faster and more then that at a further distance, so they if hunting on any farm land they should have known and seen the house.
They were probably drinking as an excuses, but well any smaller sized gun would have had the bullet dropping at a steeper angle, making it almost impossible for a person using commonsense to have hit those people.The gun had to have been at a very close range, or hit something and bounced off, but highly unlikely, or they new the people and possibly thought they could play a game and get away with it, Now that is my own opinion, am I wrong, I don't know, I still think they should have realized exactly what they were doing, It is not the guns fault, It was the person who pulled the trigger who is to blame.
I still believe one has to be responsible for their actions. They will probably be found guilty.
I pray to God when I hunt this will never happen to me. or anyone else.
 

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This is definitely tragic. And these hunters should be charged with murder
I take it you don't understand the elements of murder.

They had to have known there was a house there and in no way should they have fired in that direction, The bullet trajectory would definitely have been of such they were close enough to realize this would happen,
Even such as a 7 mill mag at 500 yards would drop close to 4 feet putting it on a down ward spiral. and it drops faster and more then that at a further distance, so they if hunting on any farm land they should have known and seen the house.
They were probably drinking as an excuses, but well any smaller sized gun would have had the bullet dropping at a steeper angle, making it almost impossible for a person using commonsense to have hit those people.The gun had to have been at a very close range, or hit something and bounced off, but highly unlikely, or they new the people and possibly thought they could play a game and get away with it, Now that is my own opinion, am I wrong, I don't know, I still think they should have realized exactly what they were doing, It is not the guns fault, It was the person who pulled the trigger who is to blame.
I still believe one has to be responsible for their actions. They will probably be found guilty.
I pray to God when I hunt this will never happen to me. or anyone else.
Sounds like manslaughter 2 to me. Assuming the baby dies. We may be getting a little ahead of ourselves here.
 

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Too bad everyone isnt' that sensible!
 

CMAenergy

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I take it you don't understand the elements of murder.


Sounds like manslaughter 2 to me. Assuming the baby dies. We may be getting a little ahead of ourselves here.
Are we? Never pull the trigger except it be safe for all.
Are these people who fired their guns, doing what some idiots do, Play the game of sound shooting, the bushes are moving here, Bang. Probably not or did they? But why was the trigger pulled in the first place? They had to have known they were near a house if hunting on farm land. This type of irresponsibility will loose it for good hunters.
 

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Calling something murder when nobody's dead? Yeah, that's pretty much the definition of "getting ahead of yourself."

Never pull the trigger except it be safe for all.
Are these people who fired their guns, doing what some idiots do, Play the game of sound shooting, the bushes are moving here, Bang. Probably not or did they? But why was the trigger pulled in the first place? They had to have known they were near a house if hunting on farm land. This type of irresponsibility will loose it for good hunters.
Still ain't homicide until somebody dies.
 

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This is definitely tragic. And these hunters should be charged with murder
They had to have known there was a house there and in no way should they have fired in that direction, The bullet trajectory would definitely have been of such they were close enough to realize this would happen,
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Not sure that would "fly" in a court of law! To my knowledge, to be charged with murder there has to be intent with the exception as the result of a serious crime being committed. Mere stupidity seldom results in a murder charge. Perhaps you might curb the histrionics. -:)
 

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Not sure that would "fly" in a court of law! To my knowledge, to be charged with murder there has to be intent with the exception as the result of a serious crime being committed. Mere stupidity seldom results in a murder charge. Perhaps you might curb the histrionics. -:)
You also typically need a dead person.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Even then, in Canada you would still need another half a dozen criteria, or it just won't "fly". We don't have laws against stupidity here.
Yeah, but focus here. Without a dead person you don't have ANY degree of homicide: murder, manslaughter, negligent, nothing. And this case lacks that one essential element from which all else springs. . . a corpse.

Heck, without a corpse you don't even have death.
 

CMAenergy

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Calling something murder when nobody's dead? Yeah, that's pretty much the definition of "getting ahead of yourself."


Still ain't homicide until somebody dies.
To murder is to remove something that was to be
This child has lost that which it should have had
If you were standing with one foot near a cliff and it started (cliff) to slip away.
Have you got what lost?
This is already set in motion. You cannot murder a dead body. The child is being murdered, It is in the process of being devalued of it's life, That is what is being called murder not a dead body.
 

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To murder is to remove something that was to be
This child has lost that which it should have had
If you were standing with one foot near a cliff and it started (cliff) to slip away.
Have you got what lost?
This is already set in motion. You cannot murder a dead body. The child is being murdered, It is in the process of being devalued of it's life, That is what is being called murder not a dead body.

Ooooh-KAY! *backs away slowly*
 

CMAenergy

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To murder is to remove something that was to be
This child has lost that which it should have had
If you were standing with one foot near a cliff and it started (cliff) to slip away.
Have you got what lost?
This is already set in motion. You cannot murder a dead body. The child is being murdered, It is in the process of being devalued of it's life, That is what is being called murder not a dead body.
I will mention this as I just previously did,
You cannot murder a dead body
This child is in the process of being murdered, This child has lost it's ability to have a complete life.
Remember a dead body is dead, you cannot murder a body after it's dead.
This is in that process of being such.
 

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Yeah, but focus here. Without a dead person you don't have ANY degree of homicide: murder, manslaughter, negligent, nothing. And this case lacks that one essential element from which all else springs. . . a corpse.

Heck, without a corpse you don't even have death.


I agree, although 3 charges of murder have just been laid in Alberta, but yet to find any bodies.