Scotland might just show the rest of us the way to reset social democracy

DaSleeper

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Do you think the counters unfold them before deciding what pile it belongs in?
>trimmed......of bullshyte
And do they iron them out so that no fold crease is showing? you dingbat?
You will believe any made-up video that agrees with your narrow view of the world.....
And I'm not the only one who thinks you're nuts.......
 

Blackleaf

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You going to be okay? Shock can be brutal ya know.


It shows he's learning and becoming wiser. The more people who start agreeing with me the better chance we have of making this world a better place.
 

Tonington

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You can't base predict what will happen in Scotland based on what happened in Quebec. Both are very different places with very different circumstances.

The circumstances aren't all that different. Sure, the geography is. But in the end it was one group of people who want sovereignty and one group who did not want change. Those wanting sovereignty witnessed their support at 45%, that's pretty close to the finish line. They won't stop...

Use your favourite internet search engine. They are already claiming the election was stolen.
 

Blackleaf

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The circumstances aren't all that different. Sure, the geography is. But in the end it was one group of people who want sovereignty and one group who did not want change.

The Scots DON'T want sovereignty. They've just voted against it and that'll be the end of the matter for at least a generation.

They won't stop...
There are suggestions, including from yesterday's Times, that it should be made illegal for Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland to leave the UK.

The Times yesterday said that an independent Scotland was meant to have left the UK for eternity, so now it should be the case that it and the other three should be IN the UK for eternity.


They are already claiming the election was stolen.
Who's claiming that? The sore losers? I bet they wouldn't have said such a thing had the YES side won. I had a feeling that if the Scots had voted for independence there wouldn't have been any talk of vote rigging then.

Bloody sore losers and sour grapes...
 

Colpy

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Do you think the counters unfold them before deciding what pile it belongs in?


One, you just made yourself the biggest retard of the last 200 years.


Was he from the 'West'?
Nobody denies what went on after the collapse in '91 and the West started to 'look for opportunities' in their usual underhanded fashion.

For it to be Russians that would mean the USSR never fell, it put on a new shirt like ISIS did when they were given Iraq to rule.


No, getting a little thick on you bullcrap though.
Being head of the KGB would mean there are no secrets. The term scumbag would apply to this fuking creep under your own 'logic'.
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...y-directors-of-central-intelligence/bush.html
George Herbert Walker Bush

TENURE AS DIRECTOR:
30 January 1976–20 January 1977

BIRTH:
12 June 1924, Milton, Massachusetts

EDUCATION:
Yale University, B.A., 1948

APPOINTED:
3 November 1975 by President Gerald R. Ford; confirmed by Senate, 27 January 1976; sworn in, 30 January 1976


Welcome to the Western version. For it to be a Russian thing it would never happen anyplace but in Russia. USA, Teamster Union, Jimmy Hoffa, need I go on?

Scottish election fraud playlist
www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUum3XXSnNRZOWuR3Ojc28eQ&v=AcYAa4Wm9OU

Thanks for proving once again that you are a psychotic idiot.
 

Blackleaf

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I never said the Scots want sovereignty, I said some of them do. If you think that's wrong, well then you're retarded.


But most don't.

I also think it IS wrong for them to want to break away from the UK.

There go your delusions of grandeur again.

Except for anyone who's not WASP.

I think the use of the term WASP is a racist, insensitive and offensive term used by coloured and non-Christian racists. It's a disgusting term.

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It must now be made illegal for Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland to secede from the Union:


Let's preserve our Union in law to stop the SNP pulling it apart


Jack Straw, former Labour Home Secretary and Foreign Secretary
The Times
20 September 2014

The United Kingdom may be unbalanced. But, hey, it works

Now that Scotland has decisively spoken, after a campaign whose terms were set by the SNP for itself, we should follow the example of stable federated countries (the US and India, for example) and say: "This Union is now indissoluble."

If independence would have been for good, so must the decision to stay. You can't pull a living plant up by the roots again and again and expect it to survive. Put this commitment to the Union in primary Westminster legislation. Of course, that could be changed but only by all the UK's MPs. "Better Together" must mean what it says.



Let’s preserve our Union in law to stop the SNP pulling it apart | The Times
 

CDNBear

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It must now be made illegal for Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland to secede from the Union:

Let's preserve our Union in law to stop the SNP pulling it apart


Jack Straw, former Labour Home Secretary and Foreign Secretary
The Times
20 September 2014

The United Kingdom may be unbalanced. But, hey, it works

Now that Scotland has decisively spoken, after a campaign whose terms were set by the SNP for itself, we should follow the example of stable federated countries (the US and India, for example) and say: "This Union is now indissoluble."

If independence would have been for good, so must the decision to stay. You can't pull a living plant up by the roots again and again and expect it to survive. Put this commitment to the Union in primary Westminster legislation. Of course, that could be changed but only by all the UK's MPs. "Better Together" must mean what it says.



Let’s preserve our Union in law to stop the SNP pulling it apart | The Times
There's that true clear-headed thinking that made the Empire what it is tod... err... oh wait.
 

Blackleaf

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Well you get what you give in this world.


I've never been racist towards white Protestants before. Such a thing is beneath me. I'll leave that to lowlife racists like you.

There's that true clear-headed thinking that made the Empire what it is tod... err... oh wait.


If the US and India and other federated states can do it, why not the UK?

Plus, if such a move angers and annoys you and others on this forum, I hope the law is brought into effect as soon as possible.

Anything that preserves the most successful political union in history is well worth going through with.
 

Tonington

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But most don't.

:lol: No $hit. Congratulations on being able to differentiate when looking at numbers like 45 and 55.

It's a good thing there's an unconscious part of the human brain controlling basic bodily functions...

As for the claims it was stolen, just read what they're saying. Like I said, try your favourite search engine. Like this: A new petition to hold another vote because it was rigged, they claim. Pretty much the same thing as saying it was stolen.
https://www.change.org/p/alex-salmond-we-the-undersigned-demand-a-revote-of-the-scottish-referendum-counted-by-impartial-international-parties
 

Blackleaf

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As for the claims it was stolen, just read what they're saying.

Who's saying it? Sore losers, that's who. They wouldn't have been complaining about a "rigged" election had the YES mob won.

Plus, this is GREAT BRITAIN, the world's foremost beacon of democracy, the oldest surviving democracy in the world. We don't rig elections in this country.

And if there was any vote rigging going on, I'd put money on the culprits being the YES side.


A new petition to hold another vote because it was rigged, they claim.
There isn't going to be a new vote. The YES side lost, and lost fairly, and that's the end of the matter.

Now buzz off and stop being a sore loser.

These idiots remind me of the EUSSR (which ISN'T a beacon of democracy), when Ireland voted AGAINST the Lisbon Treaty in a referendum a few years back. Not happy with the Irish having the audacity to vote AGAINST an EUSSR treaty, the EUSSR forced the Irish to take the referendum again and again until they voted the "right" way - i.e. in favour of the Lisbon Treaty.

There's no point in holding a referendum if you are going to keep holding it again and again until the people vote the way you want them to vote.
 

Blackleaf

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LOL. There is nothing that is beneath you. As you've demonstrated time and time again.

If my straightforward, popular, man in the street views irritate a few out of touch lefties, that's not my problem. In fact, I enjoy it.