Justin Trudeau says abortion rights trump MPs' freedom to vote their conscience

[captain morgan]

Typical .......why should women have to assume the major role in bearing & raising a child she does not want or might not have consented to.

Apparently, the Courts have mandated that the male be held respopnsible for the first 18 years and more if/when the child goes through post secondary.

Don't hand me this crock that men get off scott-free.

On top of that, what is entirely absurd in your insinuations is that the men that are fighting to not have the child aborted are stepping up to the plate and assuming full responsibility... Isn't that what you're bitching about?

Do you imagine women in Canada are ignorant on the prevention of conception?? Does the male have no responsibility?? Until the men of the world can be forced to share the role - the women wanting or needing abortions should be the only judge on what her body is used for!!

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"The most frequently cited research on sexual violence was conducted by Statistics Canada in 1992, which involved a national random sample of 12,300 women (Johnson and Sacco, 1995). The research found that over one in three women had experienced a sexual assault and that only 6% of sexual assaults were reported to the police.[64] According to Justice Institute of British Columbia, one out of every 17 women is raped, 62% of rape victims were physically injured, 9% were beaten or disfigured."


According to United Nations studies, in SAfrica, 28% to 37% of the men have committed rape and 7 to 9 of those have engaged in gang rape. Sweden has the highest rate of rape in Europe....69 rapes to 100,000 inhabitants. 1/3 of women have been sexually assaulted by the time they leave their teens.


Lesotho 88.6 rapes per l00,00 inhabitants. All Carribean countries 48% of girls reported sexual initiation to be forced.

Thanks for the stats on sexual assault.... Does this mean that every abortion on the planet is a result of sexual assault?

Yeah, I didn't think so

So, don't use that "She should have known better crap". Women know about the results of sexual intercourse even adolescents.

For those that are into recreational sex, the answer is yes, you should have known better

 

[bluebyrd35]

Hey women are not there yet. Freedom to control who or what uses their bodies is not a right yet.

 

[Cannuck]

Hey women are not there yet. Freedom to control who or what uses their bodies is not a right yet.




Good Gawd Of course, and I'll bet you don't consider yourself to have chauvinistic tendencies. It occurs to me that sometimes jealousy of a working womb brings out the need in some to control it's use whenever possible! Get real man, women live longer, have much more satisfying relationships with others and in general are just as smart. We are more family oriented as well. But that does not mean we should be forced to produce a family against our will.

Perhaps the points you make would be taken a little more seriously if you didn't present them in such a silly manner

 

[captain morgan]

Hey women are not there yet.

... And what exactly does this mean in terms of men that want to assume responsibility for conceiving a child?

Freedom to control who or what uses their bodies is not a right yet.

With rights come responsibilities... You ready for this?

 

[Cannuck]

With rights come responsibilities... You ready for this?

Not really. That's one of the biggest complaints I hear from those opposed to the CR&F

 

[bluebyrd35]

Oh, so when it comes to human life, she the self appointed God can decide based on she SHE FEELS!

LOL, since I am my Goddess you bet I can!!

 

[captain morgan]

not really. That's one of the biggest complaints i hear from those opposed to the cr&f

cr&f?

 

[bluebyrd35]

... And what exactly does this mean in terms of men that want to assume responsibility for conceiving a child?



With rights come responsibilities... You ready for this?

When a man's body can be temporarily revised to bear a fetus or embryo and carry it to term. Think of the resultant feeling of accomplishment for those with womb envy.

 

[Cannuck]

cr&f?

Charter of rights and freedoms

 

[Zipperfish]

Who inferred that? I hope you got a credible link.

Half the conservatives on this board. "Justine" instead of Justin. Photoshops of him wearing make-up. Repeated comments on the sexuality of Katherine Wynne. It's really high-school-bully level stuff, and it is the primary reason I could never bring myself to vote for this brand of Conservatism. It's pessimistic, petty and vindictive.

 

[petros]

Women were born with a brain, just as men were. Most men are born with a *****, so is producing and supporting children to be forced on them to the exclusion of everything else.......no choice??

Get a hysterectomy if you can't handle being a producer of life. Let somebody else use your eggs.

Charter of rights and freedoms

It doesn't apply to something decriminalized turning it into a Right.

 

[Cannuck]

Half the conservatives on this board. "Justine" instead of Justin. Photoshops of him wearing make-up. Repeated comments on the sexuality of Katherine Wynne. It's really high-school-bully level stuff, and it is the primary reason I could never bring myself to vote for this brand of Conservatism. It's pessimistic, petty and vindictive.

Oops....meant to give you a green. Couldn't agree with you more. As one who considers himself conservative, it's funny that I take more issue with the tactics of those on this forum that also consider themselves conservative.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Half the conservatives on this board. "Justine" instead of Justin. Photoshops of him wearing make-up. Repeated comments on the sexuality of Katherine Wynne. It's really high-school-bully level stuff, and it is the primary reason I could never bring myself to vote for this brand of Conservatism. It's pessimistic, petty and vindictive.

But you don't mean that in a bad way!

 

[captain morgan]

When a man's body can be temporarily revised to bear a fetus or embryo and carry it to term. Think of the resultant feeling of accomplishment for those with womb envy.

Nice deflection.

I guess that your position is that because women can bear children and men can't, that this absolves you of any responsibilities but to enjoy a cornucopia of 'Rights'.

Nice

 

[Colpy]

Until a bit of tissue can live outside a woman's body on it's own it is not a baby nor considered a human being deserving rights under biblical or Canada's laws.

So we agree that abortion should be banned after 20 or 24 weeks...........

 

[Nuggler]

Wow Grievious was Avro. I totally missed that. Glad it wasn't my call, I'd be accused of bully tactics like with Doc.

No, you never proved Count was Doc, just made a heap big pile of innuendo.

But, both of them were pains in the butt.

 

[petros]

I as a man have a Right and Duty to get women pregnant.

 

[Nuggler]

Trudeau might ensure Harpo gets another term. This time with a real majority. damn !

I as a man have a Right and Duty to get women pregnant.

Barefoot in the winter. Pregnant in the summer.

EEEEEHaw ! Thems our rats ok.

 

[coldstream]

The issues of abortion (the issue of the sanctity of life).. or homosexual affirmation (the issue of the family) for that matter.. are NOT issues that are going to pass away with the death of the 'old men'.

They are formational moral foundations on which civilizations and nations are built. They contantly renew and reassert themselves at the source. We see that in U.S., with has developed a powerful, resurgent Pro-Life movement despite a virtual blackout of press coverage. This while their feminist opponents have fallen into disarray.

Justin has proved himself to be minor political hack, of limited vision, independence or intellect. He cleaves onto perceived voter demographics that are fragile and superficial. My guess is he will never be PM.. even of a cobbled together minority government without any discernable platform. He will ultimately find himself isolated, embattled and ousted by forces within and without his Party.

 

[JLM]

The issues of abortion.. or homosexual affirmation for that matter are NOT issues that are going to pass away with the death of the 'old men'.

They are formational moral foundations on which civilizations and nations are built. They contantly renew themselves at the source. We see that in U.S., with has developed a powerful resurgent Pro-Life movement despite virtual blackout of press coverage. This while their feminist opponents have fallen into disarray.

Justin has proved himself to be minor political hack, of limited vision, independence or intellect. He cleaves onto perceived voter demographics that are fragile and superficial. My guess is he will never be PM.. even of a cobbled together minority government without any discernable platform.

Yeah, he 's just a "flash in the pan", he's as transparent as glass!