Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Grievous

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I think so AS LONG as you are a stable person of good character. I think you should have to be able to prove who you are so the gun I.D. can be registered to you. Not quite as cut and dried as buying a lollipop.



That's control.


Registered?


To whom?


The government?

Whatever you say Stalin.
 

JamesBondo

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If the crime rate is 200 per l00,00 in one place and 25 per 100,00 in another, which one must show the greatest reduction when even the smallest reduction happens??


crime rate = crimes per unit of people(100,00)


given that the unit of people is a constant value(100,000)


we can say that the crime rate is directly proportional to the number of crimes.


rephrased, this mean that the change in crime is proportional to the change in crime rate.


you wrote "which one must show the greatest reduction when even the smallest reduction happens?"


my answer is: when the smallest reduction happens(ie 1 crime) then the 200 per capita rate changes by .5% and the 25 per capita rate changes by 4% so a direct answer to you question is: the 25 per capita rate must show the greatest change when even.


However, lets see if this is what happened...


In Canada, we went from a homicide rate of 3 per 100,000 to 1.5 per 100,000. Our change in rate was 50%.
Homicide in Canada, 2011


In the USA, they went from 7.0 per 100,00 to 3.6 per 100,000. Their change in rate was 48.5%.
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware | Pew Research Center’s Social & Demographic Trends Project


So, in a review of Canada,USA comparison, which one is the "smallest reduction"? The Canadian reduction of 1.5 homicides. Did the US experience the same reduction? No, is experienced a reduction that was 2.6 times greater than Canada.


There can always be some reduction in both rates, but where does the 25 per 100,000 go after the 25 rate reduction has been reached.?? (which by the way, giving the nature of humanity cannot happen)


Yes, but every bullet stopped results in a greater change of rates, if you compare the 1.5 reduction of rate with the 3.4 reduction of rate you will find that they both represent about a 50% change in rate ( 50%Canadian, and 48%American)





Sooooooooooooooooo.......


both countries experienced about the SAME rate of change. Canada with strict gun laws, and the USA with unrestricted gun laws.


So, I ask you the same question. Where is the evidence that Canada's gun control laws made a difference?
 

Corduroy

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Are we talking zero gun control....none at all?

Completely useless.

Or like Colpy said if by gun control you mean the kind of gun control they like then no, but if you mean the kind they don't like then yes, zero gun control. It's completely useless. Depends on your definition of completely.
 

CDNBear

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And so, is Canada supposed to adopt the US's freedom to bear arms laws?? I reiterate once more, I am not against guns, I am against changing Canada's laws regulating control over the conditions on those who may own and use a gun.
I'm glad you've changed your mind. It's nice to see you final grow.