Holocaust survivors condemn Israel's Gaza 'genocide'

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Israel busily proving they are the Good Guys.
It's almost like you know the outcome before the investigation, stupid is your constant companion isn't she.

Still busily proving you are a psychotic moron.
You are the one promoting mass murder of civilians, 1 million Muslims can be slaughtered and that is fine and dandy because it suits your mental framework and I'm the one that belongs in the loony bin. Stupid seems to double itself in you each time you open your yap.
Hope you choke on this.

M't:15:11:
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man;
but that which cometh out of the mouth,
this defileth a man.

BTW, the fact is Palestinian civilians are NOT PERMITTED to take shelter in the tunnels.
So you admit that tunnels exist that has nothing to do with Hamas sneaking into Israel in the dead of night. Since you are known liar I'm going to have to insist you provide some links for your statements. Some of your sources would make the KKK gag.
 
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The 30-something tunnels into Israel were for mass murder
Dude you're crazy unless you believe there is nothing worth smuggling from Israel that can't be got in Egypt. Is that what you believe?
 

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Did you READ the article??
Yeah.....the "economic lifeline" tunnels were into EGYPT.
We all knew that.
The 30-something tunnels into Israel were for mass murder.
Sure I read it, this is the only work a university student can get in Gaza. How dare they demand their lives change under the rule of their Jewish prison guards.
Typical of you though, when asked for proof the tunnels were for terrorism activities yo show a pic of the Egyptian crossing. I want the 100's of reports that must exist from all the 30 tunnels that go directly into Israel. Those are the pics you were asked for, lacking any there goes your fuking proof of any tunnels going into Israel from Gaza. I not only hate liars I hate bad ones especially and top that with you cheering the murder of women and babies I'm thinking we will be starting that long chat that should have happened when you first started to defend known lies about the , wait for it, . . . . the Holocaust.


In the first place "Good Guys" is relative.........
Israel investigates its own for alleged crimes against Palestinians.
A innocent person would have an independent party, like Russia' do the investigation. Like they would turn themselves in for punishment, Jews are notorious liars, a fact that has escaped you, let me guess, a Jew told you that. You aren't too bright but this is how a 'collective' works.

M't:5:46:
For if ye love them which love you,
what reward have ye?
do not even the publicans the same?
M't:5:47:
And if ye salute your brethren only,
what do ye more than others?
do not even the publicans so?


Hamas executes anyone that disagrees with them, without trial.

Israel has no death penalty.
That's what you do with collaborators, Grampa Bush should have been dealth with that way, perhaps the US would be more like it was under JFK. Did you know he was anti-semite as this speech is about the Jews in general and Jewish bankers in particular, might as well meet the one Jew he liked at the same time.

JFK Secret Societies Speech (full version) - YouTube

Benjamin Freedman's 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (Complete) - YouTube

Hamas starts the war by kidnapping and killing three Jewish teens (they'd be "children" if killed by the IDF) and firing rockets into Israel to protest the Israeli investigation.

Israelis are the good guys.
Liar, that has been disproved and don't fuking tell me the campaign against Gaza was something that was planned after the fake claim. Israeli collaborators would most likely be the kidnappers and with the full backing of the IDF and it would have been the IDF that killed them to eliminate witnesses, like they always do. Sinai in '67 saw untold soldiers murdered after surrendering and events connected to Syria and Iraq shows that trend hasn't slowed down any. It does show that you remain ignorant of any updates cause that would fry all your circuts, that makes you as stupid as a person can get and there is no hope for recocery. Therefore I shall help you see through the fog that is your brain.
Israel admits HAMAS didn't kidnap the 3 Israeli teens after all
Repeated inconsistencies in Israeli descriptions of the situation have sparked debate over whether Israel wanted to provoke Hamas into a confrontation. Israeli intelligence is also said to have known that the boys were dead shortly after they disappeared, but to have maintained public optimism about their safe return to beef up support from the Jewish diaspora.

Bull****.

First of all, the Holocaust was simply the climax of over 1,000 years of European persecution and mass murder of Jews.

Read a little history.
I did, the Balfour declaration was signed before the end of WWI and at the end of that war Britain had control of the Holy Land and could have given it to the Jews at that time but they waited 30 years and in that same time they and the US and Canada restricted emigration for Jews (unless they were wealthy) and even stopped Germany from sending the rail cars to the West but they could have cleared the way for them to head to 'Palestine' yet they intentionally held them in a combat zone where the US and Britain and Canada were bombing civilian areas. Wonder how many Jews got killed in those events, Dresden certainly narrowed the list of witnesses down so only a few 'Jewish survivers' from the death camps had the witness reports. To be a Jew in a death camp and survive for years would seem to be done only by the grace of God or they were German collaborators of the Holocaust is something different than the slanted reports suggest.

Israel does treat the Palestinians as people........the over 1.5 million that live in Israel have full political rights. The ones in Gaza that elected Hamas, an organization sworn to murder ALL Jews, are spared as much as possible when their leaders go to war against Israel.

NO OTHER MILITARY ON EARTH DOES WHAT ISRAEL DOES ROUTINELY TO AVOID CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.
Another lie, you are saying ony Jews should live in Israel but you stop at insisting all Jews do that or the plan is cancelled, another move typical of a retarded stupid fuking troll. Ther a new label for you, too bad it fits like a second skin, oh wait, that is you at your core.

Take the issue to the UN Courts, that is what a human people would do, that isn't even as high as the bottom of the list of options so there is the morality of the whole Jewish population across the globe.

This is Israel.



Welcome to your new home courtesy the IDF and your local Jews. (local as in insane)



Did you read the whole article in the link provided by Pete or just the Headline?
Like this part that says no tunnels ran into Israel until recently, a feat that would be impossible considering no materials have been allowed in. Inconsistencies are signs of a lie.

"Gaza citizens have been digging and using tunnels for years. Until recently, though, the tunnels extended only into Egypt and were used mainly to smuggle in consumer goods. Because of the Israeli blockade of Gaza, introduced when Hamas won elections in 2007 and relaxed only recently, many items—foodstuffs, gas, clothing, cars—were unavailable through normal trade."


Hamas came to power in 1987 after Israel has Gaza under military occupation for 20 years, they were immediately classified as a terrorist organization and that was how life went on for the next 20 years so where was this 'normal trade' era, there never was one, another Israeli lie.
 

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The ones who know nothing about it are the dead sailors on the USS Liberty. Your version is full of lies, go ahead post something from the book.
Here is how Israeli investigations go in case you forgot Cast Lead.
Israel argues officer who beat Palestinian suffered more than victim - Diplomacy and Defense Israel News | Haaretz
Israel issued its defense statement on behalf of an officer convicted of beating five demonstrators in a civil suit brought on by one of his victims, claiming that not only should the plaintiff not receive compensation but that the defendant suffered more than his victim.

Six Days of War
[SIZE=+1]June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East[/SIZE]



Author: Michael B. Oren

Oxford University Press, 2002
Dr. Oren has dual citizenship – U.S. and Israeli. He is a graduate of Princeton and an Israeli army veteran. He tried to be fair in writing this book, rather than running just with his own biases, and his effort has been appreciated by some Arab scholars and widely accepted. As of this writing, all of the numerous customer reviews at Amazon.com give him high marks. Robert L. Pollock of the Wall Street Journal writes that "Oren brings a novelist's flair to recounting ... the war. His meticulous research cuts through the propagandized histories on all sides."
Oren describes the developments leading to war:
In 1966 many in Egypt were interested in erasing the disgrace that they connected with their country's performance against the Israeli military back during the 1956 Suez crisis. Also in 1966, Israel's neighbor to the northeast, Syria, frequently sent guerrillas into Israel. And, that year, Syria and Egypt were working on an alliance. In October, 1966, in Damascus, the leader of Egypt's military delegation proclaimed:
We are confident that we are making fast strides toward the realization of our common goal – the elimination of Israel and full unity.
On November 4, the Egyptians and Syrians signed a defense treaty, committing them to assist each other militarily during war.
On the morning of May 16, 1967, Egypt's president, Gamal Abdul Nasser, moved on his plan for a military offensive. He sent his tanks forward into the Sinai-Egyptian territory. That same day Nasser surprised the world by asking the United Nations to withdraw its peacekeeping forces from the Sinai, and the UN complied. Four days later, Egypt erected a blockade at the Strait of Tiran, near Sharm al-Sheikh, against Israel's access to shipping in the Red Sea – considered by tradition an act of war. On May 24 the Egyptians moved 9,000 men, 200 tanks and guns to striking positions, at the edge of the Gaza Strip, near Rafah. Egypt withdrew the families of its military officers from the Gaza Strip, and it transferred managers, engineers and doctors there in preparation for occupying the Negev region (Beersheba and points south). Egypt was planning to launch its offensive on the 27th. A speech by Nasser to his officers gave them confidence in victory.

Six Days of War, by Michael Oren


I don't see him having more insight that the General's son, Miko Peled. But then he must be a liar as you know more about it than he would right or is that another lie of yours?
Miko Peled: The General's Son - Geneva - YouTube
 

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Israeli reservists refuse to serve - Middle East - Al Jazeera English


Dozens reservists and former members of an elite Israeli army intelligence unit have condemned alleged "abuses" of Palestinians in the occupied territories.
The fourty-three reserve soldiers expressed their condemnation in an open letter addressed to Israel's prime minister, armed forces chief, head of military intelligence and distributed to media on Thursday.
 

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The obsessed one has a very narrow field of vision....could even call it tunnel vision....


Edit: Gaza/ tunnels.....Just thought I'd spell it out for him and megahurts don't you know....:wink:
 

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30 tunnels into Israel built since the last bombing campaign? I don't think so, did you see the list of materials it would take, they don't get those materials at all let alone in those quantities. Part of the campaign gained about 500m on the inside of the existing wall. In the north where it takes a swing to the Med Sea it takes part of the old city and that is where the few photos are coming from. Look at the forms and show some that cross into Gaza that would number in the 100's of trucks that would be needed.

At your self-appointed anti-troll position you seem to have left a door or two ajar. Just waiting for a bridge to be built that is low enough for you and one big far should put you in your place. When you see me go in that is the time to run away because that is when I'm looking for a place to plant my feet before I start reeling you in, and then letting you go, and then reeling you back in again. You are already a yo-yo, this just makes you a horizontal one.
 

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There were probably more than that that flew over from here to fight. I have no idea if Israel picked up the fare but it was their National Airline that was chartered. Not so good if you were on you way to defend Gaza.
But what if the cunnooder valve lets go?

I saw what you did there.
But you didn't understand it.
 

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lol, You're thinking about OBL's cave in Bora Bora and how it really was pareded before the UN as being part of 'reality'. A classic if there ever was one.
No, I was thinking of how I don't care about your interpretation of reality.
 

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That's fine because when that topic was being discussed you thought those caves were real, just as shown. I wouldn't want to deprive anybody of that level of reality. Like it could be altered to begin with. Just as soon as you or somebody can come up with a cure for sand feeling good on bare feet is when children will stop being killed in the beaches of Gaza. There isn't any other alternative on the table, like not bombing beaches.
One bomb a day for 30 days or 30 bombs in one day, which is more efficient at leveling a city?
 

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That's fine because when that topic was being discussed you thought those caves were real, just as shown.
I'd say stop lying, but I fear you actually believe your version of reality.

One bomb a day for 30 days or 30 bombs in one day, which is more efficient at leveling a city?
An excellent example of your limited grasp on reality, lolz.
 

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The best idea for Gaza.


Get enough bull dozers to scrap the filth off into the Mediterranean and build a resort with no Muslims allowed signs.