Israel and Genocide: Reality Check

DaSleeper

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Israel's destruction of Gazan homes, schools and hospitals only keeps Hamas popularity from totally plummeting.

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Maybe in your world. Perhaps you think our Indians are only still in the news for the same reason.


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Looks like the boy is starting to see the light slowly after all....
Can't say the same for you....you need to adjust your meds....
 

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Actually I was on that side until I started to read things for myself and yes it is too late for you, oh well.
The real world won't miss him and judging by the posts made about his qualifications as a human by you and the usual suspects he isn't such a prize but he will fit right in as all those traits are well established in your group. I can imagine soldier cheered when war would be waged against people who can't effectively fight back but any resistance to being killed will be taken as open rebellion and that means you must die. That's the West's method for 100's of years, that just means we have been brain dead that long.

Your POV would certainly be worth more than this man's opinion, right?
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13930525001486

http://1newsjunkie.blogspot.ca/2014/08/israel-bars-amnesty-human-rights-watch.html
Israel has been refusing to allow employees of Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch to enter the Gaza Strip in order to conduct their own independent investigations into the fighting, using various bureaucratic excuses.
Both human rights organizations have been trying to obtain permission from the Civil Administration to enter Gaza since July 7. Two different reasons have been cited for the refusals: The first is that the Erez border crossing between Israel and the Gaza Strip is closed and no entry permits are being granted until further notice; the second is neither group is registered with the Social Affairs Ministry as a humanitarian aid organization.
In fact, Erez was open throughout most of Israel’s Operation Protective Edge, which began on July 8. Among others, journalists, United Nations employees and Palestinians needing medical care or returning from abroad (with special permits), were allowed to pass through. (in part)

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-us-airstrikes-iraq-jihadists-pose-threat-in-syria/
Want to bet that Syria is making 3x the headway? The US isn't killing the ISIS they are making documentaries together. lol it doesn't get any more blatant than that.


Well this is totally unexpected, . . . not! Think of all the retraining American police and military would have to 'amend'. The Ukraine won't be so lucky when Russia drags their *** before the ICC and the world will see the same policies are in place for both place. Commit as much misery on as many civilians as possible in the shortest amount of time.
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prot...support-for-UN-investigation-into-Gaza-371540

WASHINGTON -- ​The United States is near certain to veto any proposal brought before the United Nations Security Council that would investigate Israel for war crimes in Gaza, according to State Department deputy spokeswoman Marie Harf."I personally cannot envision a scenario in which we would not veto" such a resolution, Harf told reporters on Tuesday, questioned on appeals by the Palestinian Authority to various UN bodies, including the International Criminal Court.
 
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Hamas is a by-product of Israeli occupation. They were popular among the Palestinians mainly due to their ability and willingness to fight the occupiers in a struggle for its sovereignty. Israel's constant aggression against Palestinian civilians and infrastructure,including schools and hospitals only breeds future generations filled with extreme hatred and keeps Hamas' popularity strong. With an benevolent neighbour that respects Palestinian independence, Hamas' existence is not necessary, at least not in its current form.

Is it just me or is at least 80% of MHz's posts not really coherent?
 

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Is it just me or is at least 80% of MHz's posts not really coherent?
It's you and you are clueless to the rise of Hamas. Don't you think you should at least have that part right as you version below would make you a terrorist supporter. Most of my latest posts were from links so are you admitting to not being able to understand the news let alone the lies in the news. The 'other side ' is begging for members like you. They will forgive you in about 100 years, lol.

Hamas is a by-product of Israeli occupation.
Israeli occupation has been going on for about 65 years, Hamas was a political entity starting in 1987 after 20 years of brutal Israeli Military occupation after the false flag of the 6 day war. Do you feel a sense of pride known that Israel gunned down the Egyptian soldiers that had surrendered in the desert. Not the last time either that they gunned down unarmed soldiers, The Syrian ones killed that had surrendered to Iraq. Hamas was the equal to the Red Cross in Gaza throughout that time and the PLO has sold out to the West, literally and the only benefit was Arafat's widow.

They were popular among the Palestinians mainly due to their ability and willingness to fight the occupiers in a struggle for its sovereignty.
Bullcrap. Post the reference. They were popular because they helped the ones who needed it the most and there was nobody else to replace the PLO.

Israel's constant aggression against Palestinian civilians and infrastructure,including schools and hospitals only breeds future generations filled with extreme hatred and keeps Hamas' popularity strong.
Where do you come up with this ****? Perhaps that is why your arguments so far have been somewhat less that rational or logical.

With an benevolent neighbour that respects Palestinian independence, Hamas' existence is not necessary, at least not in its current form.
So Gaza should have no government at all? Really you should change sides as they most likely wouldn't want you to be one of their supporters considering you lack of knowledge about the events of the last 7 decades.
 

DaSleeper

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Hamas is a by-product of Israeli occupation. They were popular among the Palestinians mainly due to their ability and willingness to fight the occupiers in a struggle for its sovereignty. Israel's constant aggression against Palestinian civilians and infrastructure,including schools and hospitals only breeds future generations filled with extreme hatred and keeps Hamas' popularity strong. With an benevolent neighbour that respects Palestinian independence, Hamas' existence is not necessary, at least not in its current form.

Is it just me or is at least 80% of MHz's posts not really coherent?
That greenie was just for the highlighted part.......there might be hope for you yet.....maybe:lol:
 

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That greenie was just for the highlighted part.......there might be hope for you yet.....maybe:lol:
Quick grab the offer before it expires. (if nothing can sway you that comes from the truth counter you can always admire all the greenies you will get. lol Talk about a circus for mental midgets.

Good for you, you removed any part that required a brain. Probably not the first time.
 
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Hamas is a by-product of Israeli occupation. They were popular among the Palestinians mainly due to their ability and willingness to fight the occupiers in a struggle for its sovereignty. Israel's constant aggression against Palestinian civilians and infrastructure, including schools and hospitals only breeds future generations filled with extreme hatred and keeps Hamas' popularity strong. With an benevolent neighbor that respects Palestinian independence, Hamas' existence is not necessary, at least not in its current form.

Is it just me or is at least 80% of MHz's posts not really coherent?

I'm going to agree with you and give you a +1, but have a question for you, why elect a government, HAMAS, that has clearly stated in their charter to kill every Jew on earth and destroy Israel.

You would think if the Palestinians truly wanted peace, they would elect a government that would work with Israel for a common cause.
 

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We tussled some, but compared to him, you're the soul of reason.

I'm glad you're here.

That's a compliment, son.
You have to do more than post insults before you can use that term. Other than admiring South American death squads and cheering as women and kids in Gaza get shredded to piece,s can you enlighten him to the other prizes he has won?
 

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You have to do more than post insults before you can use that term. Other than admiring South American death squads and cheering as women and kids in Gaza get shredded to piece,s can you enlighten him to the other prizes he has won?
Whatever the voices in your head tell you.
 

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You would think if the Palestinians truly wanted peace, they would elect a government that would work with Israel for a common cause.
Would that be the Israel with no Gaza and no West Bank? You do know why Israel and the US are determined to see this never gets to the ICC where some judges who are not in their pockets would be rendering decisions. (that is the process somebody in the right would take. It would result in UN 181 and UN23 being voided.
How proud you all must be to support a regime that will avoid all legal processes for one that is total domination through the use of excessive military force on an unarmed public. Of course they want peace that is why they take every avenue that leads away from peace. You only have to look at what they did to the banking industry to know they are above their pay grade doing anything but what God had them doing in Egypt. slave away until He arranges for things to be different. Notice they didn't break those chains by themselves.
 

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Hey you written something that is actually coherent.. at least partly..

It's you and you are clueless to the rise of Hamas. Don't you think you should at least have that part right as you version below would make you a terrorist supporter. Most of my latest posts were from links so are you admitting to not being able to understand the news let alone the lies in the news. The 'other side ' is begging for members like you. They will forgive you in about 100 years, lol.

I don't know what links you're referring to, didn't click on any of them.

Israeli occupation has been going on for about 65 years, Hamas was a political entity starting in 1987 after 20 years of brutal Israeli Military occupation after the false flag of the 6 day war. Do you feel a sense of pride known that Israel gunned down the Egyptian soldiers that had surrendered in the desert. Not the last time either that they gunned down unarmed soldiers, The Syrian ones killed that had surrendered to Iraq. Hamas was the equal to the Red Cross in Gaza throughout that time and the PLO has sold out to the West, literally and the only benefit was Arafat's widow.

Hamas did start officially as a political entity in the late 80s, correct.. but what they stand for has existed since the very beginning of the conflict. Hamas' strong stance against Anti-Israeli occupation and fighting for Palestinian self-governance has existed since the 1920s..


Bullcrap. Post the reference. They were popular because they helped the ones who needed it the most and there was nobody else to replace the PLO.

Hamas has done some charitable work for Palestinians but the fact is Hamas are fighters whom fight against the occupation. With self-governance and without any more conflict, there would be no need nor the popularity for Hamas' existence.

So Gaza should have no government at all? Really you should change sides as they most likely wouldn't want you to be one of their supporters considering you lack of knowledge about the events of the last 7 decades.

Hamas is the only choice for Palestinian governance?

I'm going to agree with you and give you a +1, but have a question for you, why elect a government, HAMAS, that has clearly stated in their charter to kill every Jew on earth and destroy Israel.

You would think if the Palestinians truly wanted peace, they would elect a government that would work with Israel for a common cause.

Israel has never shown a strong commitment to peace, they don't want Palestine to even be recognized as a sovereign nation.

"Likud has espoused opposition to Palestinian statehood and support of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip."

As far as the racism goes, a several decades long, seemingly unending, and brutal conflict will tend to cause racial tensions if not full blown hatreds.
 

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Feel free to ignore your voices and reply to the article. (no miracles expected which is what it would be)
If this doesn't make you proud nothing will.
(in a very small part)
Chronological list of US murder toll: [under construction]
The murder toll has been achieved by either direct violence (e.g. the firebombing and nuking of Japan or the firebombing of Dresden) or indirect/proxy “low intensity conflict” (e.g. Rwanda in the 90s or Nicaragua in the 80s). (I have not here accounted for the deaths attributable to SAP.) Some extremely conservative estimates—

Native Americans (1776-2002): 4M
West Africans (1776-1865): 4M
Philippines (1898-1904): 600K
Germany (1945): 200K
Japan (1945): 900K
China (1945-60): 200K
Greece (1947-49): 100K
Korea (1951-53): 2M
Guatemala (1954-2002): 300K
Vietnam (1960-75): 2M
Laos (1965-73): 500K
Cambodia (1969-75): 1M
Indonesia (1965): 500K
Colombia (1966-2002): 500K
Oman (1970): 10K
Bangladesh (1971): 2M
Uganda (1971-1979): 200K
Chile (1973-1990): 20K
East Timor (1975): 200K
Angola (1975-2002): 1.5M
Argentina (1976-1979): 30K
Afghanistan (1978-2002): 1M
El Salvador (1980-95): 100K
Nicaragua (1980-90): 100K
Mozambique (1981-1988): 1M
Turkey (1984-2002): 50K
Rwanda (1990-1996): 1M
Iraq (1991-2002): 1M
Somalia (1991-1994): 300K
Yugoslavia (1991-2002): 300K
Liberia (1992-2002): 150K
Burundi (1993-1999): 200K
Sudan (1998): 100K
Congo (1998-2002): 3M

We should also take note that the United States bears more than superficial responsibility for the Nazi Holocaust: e.g., the turning away of Jewish, Romani, and other refugees; funding the concentration camp system; underwriting the Third Reich’s military; delay in opening a western front; policies of appeasement before the war; siding with the fascists during the Spanish Civil War; turning down Stalin’s offer to attack Germany jointly in 1938; providing theoretical inspiration for lebensraum, final solutions, anti-communism, anti-Semitism, etc; rebuilding Germany after the war with the fascist infrastructure still intact; saving war criminals; general ideological support; and so forth.
alrighty comrades

Hey you written something that is actually coherent.. at least partly..
Your turn.

I don't know what links you're referring to, didn't click on any of them.
Since material from the links was over 80% of my post that would explain why they are so confusing to you.

Hamas did start officially as a political entity in the late 80s, correct.. but what they stand for has existed since the very beginning of the conflict. Hamas' strong stance against Anti-Israeli occupation and fighting for Palestinian self-governance has existed since the 1920s..
I said they started out as being the equal to the Red Cross and ran soup kitchens and you swapped it over to this. The 'other side ' really deserves you, run now while the offer is still there.
Hint you can read the Bible until you know twice as much about it as any Jew, they won't apprecuiate it although they might extend you an offer to join the collective but when you point out that you are a member of the choir so doing that would be a move against God. Don't see that happening in my case. lol Some pissed after that and they were about like Boomer before that so mental balance isn'y a demand apparently.

Hamas has done some charitable work for Palestinians but the fact is Hamas are fighters whom fight against the occupation. With self-governance and without any more conflict, there would be no need nor the popularity for Hamas' existence.
Like I said earlier you are totally clueless about the facts. You say one thing and say the opposite in the same sentence.

Hamas is the only choice for Palestinian governance?
Name all the political parties in Gaza. (and why didn't that info make it to your reply?
 

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From link:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a public speech following the start of the 72-hour cease-fire, voiced deep regret over civilian casualties, but placed the blame entirely on Hamas. He pointed out that his main goal was to protect his people, saying that Israeli forces were shooting back at rockets fired from civilian areas.
“Let’s imagine your country attacked by 3,500 rockets. Your territories infiltrated by death squads. What would you do?” he said. “What if the rockets are fired from civilian areas … should you then not take action?”

How many of those 3500 are Israeli missiles returning to earth? The 'Nut" is just another lying Politician, not even all that good at it.

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/144035-arab-league-accuses-israel-of-blocking-gaza-peace-efforts

Arab League chief Nabil al-Arabi accused Israel on Wednesday of "blocking" all attempts to end the Gaza conflict, a day after the collapse of a ceasefire in the Palestinian territory.
"Israel is blocking any kind of agreement leading to calm" in the Gaza Strip, Arabi told journalists.
 
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Feel free to ignore your voices and reply to the article. (no miracles expected which is what it would be)
If this doesn't make you proud nothing will.
(in a very small part)
Chronological list of US murder toll: [under construction]
The murder toll has been achieved by either direct violence (e.g. the firebombing and nuking of Japan or the firebombing of Dresden) or indirect/proxy “low intensity conflict” (e.g. Rwanda in the 90s or Nicaragua in the 80s). (I have not here accounted for the deaths attributable to SAP.) Some extremely conservative estimates—

Native Americans (1776-2002): 4M
West Africans (1776-1865): 4M
Philippines (1898-1904): 600K
Germany (1945): 200K
Japan (1945): 900K
China (1945-60): 200K
Greece (1947-49): 100K
Korea (1951-53): 2M
Guatemala (1954-2002): 300K
Vietnam (1960-75): 2M
Laos (1965-73): 500K
Cambodia (1969-75): 1M
Indonesia (1965): 500K
Colombia (1966-2002): 500K
Oman (1970): 10K
Bangladesh (1971): 2M
Uganda (1971-1979): 200K
Chile (1973-1990): 20K
East Timor (1975): 200K
Angola (1975-2002): 1.5M
Argentina (1976-1979): 30K
Afghanistan (1978-2002): 1M
El Salvador (1980-95): 100K
Nicaragua (1980-90): 100K
Mozambique (1981-1988): 1M
Turkey (1984-2002): 50K
Rwanda (1990-1996): 1M
Iraq (1991-2002): 1M
Somalia (1991-1994): 300K
Yugoslavia (1991-2002): 300K
Liberia (1992-2002): 150K
Burundi (1993-1999): 200K
Sudan (1998): 100K
Congo (1998-2002): 3M

We should also take note that the United States bears more than superficial responsibility for the Nazi Holocaust: e.g., the turning away of Jewish, Romani, and other refugees; funding the concentration camp system; underwriting the Third Reich’s military; delay in opening a western front; policies of appeasement before the war; siding with the fascists during the Spanish Civil War; turning down Stalin’s offer to attack Germany jointly in 1938; providing theoretical inspiration for lebensraum, final solutions, anti-communism, anti-Semitism, etc; rebuilding Germany after the war with the fascist infrastructure still intact; saving war criminals; general ideological support; and so forth.
alrighty comrades


Your turn.


Since material from the links was over 80% of my post that would explain why they are so confusing to you.


I said they started out as being the equal to the Red Cross and ran soup kitchens and you swapped it over to this. The 'other side ' really deserves you, run now while the offer is still there.
Hint you can read the Bible until you know twice as much about it as any Jew, they won't apprecuiate it although they might extend you an offer to join the collective but when you point out that you are a member of the choir so doing that would be a move against God. Don't see that happening in my case. lol Some pissed after that and they were about like Boomer before that so mental balance isn'y a demand apparently.


Like I said earlier you are totally clueless about the facts. You say one thing and say the opposite in the same sentence.


Name all the political parties in Gaza. (and why didn't that info make it to your reply?

So all this incoherant ranting is not really about Israel but your blind hatred of the US. Now we got it.
 

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So all this incoherant ranting is not really about Israel but your blind hatred of the US. Now we got it.
'WE' as in your imagination. No blind hatred but then again the whole list (it is quite long) sort of takes away from tha fake US that you seem to still love even thought this kind of action is even increasing. 1M civilians killed in Iraq in the war. 500,000 children killed in the sanctions. That might make them your heroes, not for me. You can't buy PR like this.

END WAR: Madeleine Albright Says Deaths Of 500,000 Iraqi Children Is Worth It; UN Sanction Genocide - YouTube
 

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Like I said earlier you are totally clueless about the facts. You say one thing and say the opposite in the same sentence.

Umm no. There is no contradiction between being charitable to your people while fighting an occupation.
 

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Or simply incoherent ranting <period>
Little a good little troll you just have to post on things you don't understand.

Hamas has done some charitable work for Palestinians but the fact is Hamas are fighters whom fight against the occupation. With self-governance and without any more conflict, there would be no need nor the popularity for Hamas' existence.
So Gaza doesn't need a Government (which is what Hamas is) but they can enjoy self rule? They were all charity before bthe PLO got booted. Want to know why, they were selling out the citizens so they could line their own pockets. That is a western type of thing, they opted to not go that route.