Ferguson riots: Clashes, looting in Missouri following vigil for teen shot dead by po

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Hey, I was tear gasses during the Vancouver riots.. I should not have been where I was.. my fault. Not the cops.

It's called personal responsibility.. wish people would start to man up and have some in the bloody world.

BTW, you say they gas al jazeera


You're just some random dumbass in the way, they're reporters doing a job ..

they were also fired at directly with tear gus, posing no threat (the al jazeera crew),
 

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Yes. It's a serious question. What do you want to discuss? I'll answer anything you like straight up.

Wondering if I will be the next to say I am glad Mike Brown is dead. That is a serious question? You're FOS. You're just being a d***.

Why would I be glad he's dead?


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BOMBSHELL FROM ST LOUIS REPORTER!!!! #FERGUSON BOOM!!!!!!!!

Police sources tell me more than a dozen witnesses have corroborated cop's version of events in shooting

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That just can't be! Someone in here said all eye witnesses said he was surrendering.
 

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Wondering if I will be the next to say I am glad Mike Brown is dead. That is a serious question? You're FOS. You're just being a d***.

Why would I be glad he's dead?
Because you seem to me to be rolling with the "had it coming" crowd.

No, I'm not calling you a racist. You wouldn't have had a pleasant (or very long) hitch in the Marines if you were, unless you were real good at keeping your mouth shut. And we know you ain't. ; D

At the same time, the one thing we know for sure is that Michael Brown was not a threat to Officer Wilson. The whole "shot him inside the car struggling for my weapon" story has been debunked by forensics. No powder burns in the autopsy. The same forensics that debunked the "shot him in the back" story.

So, are you happy with the stories about the incident?

Are you happy with the conduct of the police in revealing information?

Are you happy with the police response to the demonstrations?

Are you happy with the police response to the riots?
 

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Wondering if I will be the next to say I am glad Mike Brown is dead. That is a serious question? You're FOS. You're just being a d***.

Why would I be glad he's dead?



That just can't be! Someone in here said all eye witnesses said he was surrendering.


people are so knowledgeable.
 

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By the way, if anyone is interested, here is the standard for the use of deadly force by police:


TENNESSEE v. GARNER, 471 U.S. 1 (1985)

471 U.S. 1

TENNESSEE v. GARNER ET AL.
APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SIXTH CIRCUIT

No. 83-1035.

Argued October 30, 1984
Decided March 27, 1985 *


A Tennessee statute provides that if, after a police officer has given notice of an intent to arrest a criminal suspect, the suspect flees or forcibly resists, "the officer may use all the necessary means to effect the arrest." Acting under the authority of this statute, a Memphis police officer shot and killed appellee-respondent Garner's son as, after being told to halt, the son fled over a fence at night in the backyard of a house he was suspected of burglarizing. The officer used deadly force despite being "reasonably sure" the suspect was unarmed and thinking that he was 17 or 18 years old and of slight build. The father subsequently brought an action in Federal District Court, seeking damages under 42 U.S.C. 1983 for asserted violations of his son's constitutional rights. The District Court held that the statute and the officer's actions were constitutional. The Court of Appeals reversed.
Held:
The Tennessee statute is unconstitutional insofar as it authorizes the use of deadly force against, as in this case, an apparently unarmed, nondangerous fleeing suspect; such force may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others. Pp. 7-22. [SIZE=-1][471 U.S. 1, 2] [/SIZE]
  • (a) Apprehension by the use of deadly force is a seizure subject to the Fourth Amendment's reasonableness requirement. To determine whether such a seizure is reasonable, the extent of the intrusion on the suspect's rights under that Amendment must be balanced against the governmental interests in effective law enforcement. This balancing process demonstrates that, notwithstanding probable cause to seize a suspect, an officer may not always do so by killing him. The use of deadly force to prevent the escape of all felony suspects, whatever the circumstances, is constitutionally unreasonable. Pp. 7-12.
 

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Because you seem to me to be rolling with the "had it coming" crowd.

No, I'm not calling you a racist. You wouldn't have had a pleasant (or very long) hitch in the Marines if you were, unless you were real good at keeping your mouth shut. And we know you ain't. ; D

At the same time, the one thing we know for sure is that Michael Brown was not a threat to Officer Wilson. The whole "shot him inside the car struggling for my weapon" story has been debunked by forensics. No powder burns in the autopsy. The same forensics that debunked the "shot him in the back" story.

So, are you happy with the stories about the incident?

Are you happy with the conduct of the police in revealing information?

Are you happy with the police response to the demonstrations?

Are you happy with the police response to the riots?

I'm not happy with any of it. From beginning to now.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I'm not happy with any of it. From beginning to now.
Well, for two people who agree with each other, we sure are having a knock-down drag-out over it.

"The whole Ferguson thing sucks!"

"No it doesn't, it sucks!"

"Hell it does, it sucks!"

"Bullsh*t, it sucks!"

*punch, kick, chokehold, bust bottle over head*
 

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lots of nice common sense, concerned and decent people there, helping others, picking up trash left by the animals and cops.


#stopchargingatpolice
 

Locutus

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none of it makes any sense man. it's all so confusing.

#don'tattackthepolice

 

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He was hit 6 times, all from the front. That does NOT mean the shooting was legitimate, but if he was running away, he was running backwards.

It was NEVER police procedure to "shoot to wound". The ensuing paragraph you wrote demonstrates your complete lack of knowledge on the subject. Police are NOT taught "deadly force", they are taught "shoot to STOP". They are NEVER taught to do head shots, as a head shot is difficult to make, and is actually LESS apt to stop a subject than a solid centre torso hit.

Well even the policeman has asserted he left his vehicle in pursuit.. so there's no doubt that Brown was fleeing. And at least one of the arm shots might have been inflicted from behind.. consistent with statements by the two eyewitnesses that have been interviewed by the media.

The only question is what Brown's actions were once he turned to face the officer. According to the eyewitnesses he put his hands in the air to surrender.. while the policeman continued to shoot. None of the autopsy results contradicts that occurrence.

But in fairness neither do they conflict with the officer's charge that Brown 'bum rushed' him. The 'kill shots' to the head could be consistent with those inflicted by an individual in a full head long charge.. OR.. in someone falling forward from wounds already received.

And there are protocols for non lethal shooting.. in the extremeties or away from the core chest area or head that will likely be fatal.. especiallly with the police ammo now use.. 9mm hollow point.. with 'stopping power'. I've seen it used in video of police using it with armed protagonists. And of course.. Brown was unarmed.. and he was shot SIX times..
 
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We knew the pigs were in the wrong once we found out how many times Michael Brown was shot after the autopsy, 6 times. Insanely excessive.
Now they're attacking reporters trying to do their jobs as well, these corporate tools are out of control...

Looks like the tools are fully under control to me. I think their superiors are happy.
 

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this shooting requires more investigation...it's too complicated.

 

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My guess is the officer will get off scot free.. be re-instated without penalty or sanction. It's just the way these things pan out unless there's a video or something conclusive.. OTHER than eyewitnesses (all of which are deemed to be unreliable).
 

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My guess is the officer will get off scot free.. be re-instated without penalty or sanction. It's just the way these things pan out unless there's a video or something conclusive.. OTHER than eyewitnesses (all of which are deemed to be unreliable).

guess that leaves the entry wounds...none of them defensive in nature...why would, how could, some dude, even a big dude like mikey there, just stand still for 6 rounds?...hmmm...maybe, maybe he was running towards the cop, perhaps a little high on something that limits the sensation of pain...like I said, these are uncertain times we live in.