Now IS plans to 'raise flag of Allah in White House'

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When ISIS comes to Washington, DC they will be well advised against marching into the ghetto as they may meet with druggies who want to keep their profitable trade going along.
 

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What do we know about these junkie jibrats? Who is keeping the on the pipe?





“Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar,” John McCain told CNN’s Candy Crowley in January 2014. “Thank God for the Saudis and Prince Bandar, and for our Qatari friends,” the senator said once again a month later, at the Munich Security Conference.


McCain was praising Prince Bandar bin Sultan, then the head of Saudi Arabia’s intelligence services and a former ambassador to the United States, for supporting forces fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria. McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham had previously met with Bandar to encourage the Saudis to arm Syrian rebel forces.




The Free Syrian Army (FSA), the “moderate” armed opposition in the country, receives a lot of attention. But two of the most successful factions fighting Assad’s forces are Islamist extremist groups: Jabhat al-Nusra and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the latter of which is now amassing territory in Iraq and threatening to further destabilize the entire region. And that success is in part due to the support they have received from two Persian Gulf countries: Qatar and Saudi Arabia.


Qatar’s military and economic largesse has made its way to Jabhat al-Nusra, to the point that a senior Qatari official told me he can identify al-Nusra commanders by the blocks they control in various Syrian cities. But ISIS is another matter. As one senior Qatari official stated, “ISIS has been a Saudi project.”


ISIS, in fact, may have been a major part of Bandar’s covert-ops strategy in Syria. The Saudi government, for its part, has denied allegations, including claims made by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, that it has directly supported ISIS. But there are also signs that the kingdom recently shifted its assistance—whether direct or indirect—away from extremist factions in Syria and toward more moderate opposition groups.




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Remember when Senator John McCain went to Syria and met with factions of rebels fighting the Assad regime?


As it turns out, the group that he was meeting with was a particular subset of rebels in Syria, who we now know as ISIS.


That’s right, the very same terrorist group ISIS which is carrying out ruthless acts of terror and crime in Iraq as we speak, was who McCain was meeting with in Syria.


When the Arizona senator got back from his trip to Syria, he said…


“It was a very moving experience to meet these fighters who have been struggling now for over two years,” McCain said on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360”.


“And they’re very aware of the battlefield situation” the Arizona senator continued, “and they’re very disturbed about the dramatic influx of Hezbollah fighters, more Iranians, and of course, stepped-up activities of Bashar Assad.”




Here’s A Picture Of John McCain Hanging Out With ISIS Freedom Fighters In 2013 | Wonkette
 

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Just imagine how much worse it would have been if McCain had been in the White House and allied himself with those enemies. That should give forum Republicans and their wannabe pals lots to think about.
 

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I think most everyone in office could share the mistake of backing rebels.
 

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I think most everyone in office could share the mistake of backing rebels.


Republicans made lots of political capital out of the story behind Obama being associated with "radical terrorists" such as Bill Ayers and Frank Marshall Davis. But when news of McCain being associated with radicals such ISIS, Reagan with the Mujahideen or with self acknowledged terrorists such as the Contras nobody dares take issue with it. Right wingers on this forum had a field day attacking Obama for his friendship with those leftists. If they were consistent in their principles they should do the same with Reagan and McCain.
 

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For some reason McCain and his poodle Graham keep snuggling up to Saudi Arabia even after 9/11.


And when we consider that SA has one of, if not the most autocratic owners in the world, I can't even contemplate as to why these 2 'proud Americans' do so.............
 

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It is true that the Saudis are the most suppressive autocrats anywhere and have been responsible for fomenting more trouble than anyone else. But when I posted pics of Bush kissing up to the Saudi king right wingers on this forum hated it. Again, they love to mention Obama's past association with the left. But none like it when people mention Bush or Reagan and their long association with radicals and promoters of terrorism from the right.
 

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Musical instruments registered? I don't know where that misinformation comes from. The reason you might have trouble bringing one over the border is because Canada has banned Brazilian rosewood. They are not banned in the US. I have purchased instruments from the US (not Brazilian rosewood), one six years ago and one this year, and never had an issue with getting them over the border.

The problem these days is extremist nuts on blogs rant about anything and everything, even when there is no sign of truth to be found, and people just eat it up and join the hater's cult.

It is not rosewood that is the problem........it is ivory.

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When President Obama announced US airstrikes in Iraq, most observers understood that the US would be bombing members of ISIS. What many did not know was that, in a twist of such bitterly symbolic irony that it could only occur in the Middle East, the US would also be bombing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of American military equipment.


Here's why: in the decade since the 2003 US-led Iraq invasion, the US has spent a fortune training and arming the Iraqi army in the hopes of readying it to secure the country once America left. That meant arming the Iraqi army with high-tech and extremely expensive American-made guns, tanks, jeeps, artillery, and more.


But the Iraqi army has been largely a failure. When ISIS invaded northern Iraq from Syria in June, the Iraqi forces deserted or retreated en masse. Many of them abandoned their American equipment. ISIS scooped it up themselves and are now using it to rampage across Iraq, seizing whole cities, terrorizing minorities, and finally pushing into even once-secure Kurdish territory. All with shiny American military equipment.


So the US air strikes against ISIS are in part to destroy US military equipment, such as the artillery ISIS has been using against Kurdish forces.


The absurdity runs deep: America is using American military equipment to bomb other pieces of American military equipment halfway around the world. The reason the American military equipment got there in the first place was because, in 2003, the US had to use its military to rebuild the Iraqi army, which it just finished destroying with the American military. The American weapons the US gave the Iraqi army totally failed at making Iraq secure and have become tools of terror used by an offshoot of al-Qaeda to terrorize the Iraqis that the US supposedly liberated a decade ago. And so now the US has to use American weaponry to destroy the American weaponry it gave Iraqis to make Iraqis safer, in order to make Iraqis safer.




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The US bombing its own guns perfectly sums up America?s total failure in Iraq - Vox
 

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Tay,


in 2003, the US had to use its military to rebuild the Iraqi army, which it just finished destroying with the American military. The American weapons the US gave the Iraqi army totally failed at making Iraq secure and have become tools of terror used by an offshoot of al-Qaeda to terrorize the Iraqis that the US supposedly liberated a decade ago.



Saddam who brought stability to the region was killed by Bush, and the West's enemies were strengthened through the invasion.

Bottom line = {Bush's} mission accomplished




 

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Saddam who brought stability to the region was killed by Bush, and the West's enemies were strengthened through the invasion.

Bottom line = {Bush's} mission accomplished






Still a Saddam fan?

When President Obama announced US airstrikes in Iraq, most observers understood that the US would be bombing members of ISIS. What many did not know was that, in a twist of such bitterly symbolic irony that it could only occur in the Middle East, the US would also be bombing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of American military equipment.


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Saddam who brought stability to the region was killed by Bush, and the West's enemies were strengthened through the invasion.

Bottom line = {Bush's} mission accomplished




Kurds don't agree with you and they live there.