World War II: The Holocaust

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“How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-Semite?” Adolf Hitler asked his party members in 1920. No one thought it an odd question. Anti-Semitism was at that time widely understood to be part of the broader revolutionary movement against markets, property and capital.

The man who coined the term “socialism,” the nineteenth-century French revolutionary, Pierre Leroux, had told his comrades: “When we speak of the Jews, we mean the Jewish spirit – the spirit of profit, of lucre, of gain, of speculation; in a word, the banker’s spirit.”

The man who popularised the term “anti-Semitism” had taken a similar line. Wilhelm Marr, a radical nineteenth-century German Leftist, may not have been the first person to use the word, but he certainly – and approvingly – brought it to a wide audience: “Anti-Semitism is a Socialist movement,” he pronounced, “only nobler and purer in form than Social Democracy”.


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Left-wing anti-Semitism is anything but a new phenomenon – Telegraph Blogs
 

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Hitler was a leftist?


That's news to me.


To sumise that socialism means you have to hate Jews is obtuse.


Heck, I like the fact we have firefighters in case of an emergency......guess that means I hate Jews.
 

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“How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-Semite?” Adolf Hitler asked his party members in 1920. No one thought it an odd question. Anti-Semitism was at that time widely understood to be part of the broader revolutionary movement against markets, property and capital.

The man who coined the term “socialism,” the nineteenth-century French revolutionary, Pierre Leroux, had told his comrades: “When we speak of the Jews, we mean the Jewish spirit – the spirit of profit, of lucre, of gain, of speculation; in a word, the banker’s spirit.”

The man who popularised the term “anti-Semitism” had taken a similar line. Wilhelm Marr, a radical nineteenth-century German Leftist, may not have been the first person to use the word, but he certainly – and approvingly – brought it to a wide audience: “Anti-Semitism is a Socialist movement,” he pronounced, “only nobler and purer in form than Social Democracy”.


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Left-wing anti-Semitism is anything but a new phenomenon – Telegraph Blogs

The left wing blames the Jews for being bankers......

The right wingers blame the Jews for being Bolsheviks.........

The religious fanatics blame the Jews for being Christ killers....

Any excuse will do for a nice round of Jew hating..
 

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The left wing blames the Jews for being bankers......

The right wingers blame the Jews for being Bolsheviks.........

The religious fanatics blame the Jews for being Christ killers....

Any excuse will do for a nice round of Jew hating..



Well said......shockingly fair.
 

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Hitler was a leftist?


That's news to me.


To sumise that socialism means you have to hate Jews is obtuse.


Heck, I like the fact we have firefighters in case of an emergency......guess that means I hate Jews.

OMG PLEASE don't restart this debate!!! :)

The only thing worse is the argument over whether Hitler was a Christian.

Left or right doesn't really fit, but Hitler did lead the National Socialist German Workers' Party..........(NSDAP, more commonly known as the Nazi Party).
 

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OMG PLEASE don't restart this debate!!! :)

The only thing worse is the argument over whether Hitler was a Christian.

Left or right doesn't really fit, but Hitler did lead the National Socialist German Workers' Party..........(NSDAP, more commonly known as the Nazi Party).



Lol!


Sorry, didn't want to open that can of worms.


Hitler was a POS, lets leave it at that.
 

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Don't YOU start, either!!!

 

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The man who popularised the term “anti-Semitism” had taken a similar line. Wilhelm Marr, a radical nineteenth-century German Leftist, may not have been the first person to use the word, but he certainly – and approvingly – brought it to a wide audience: “Anti-Semitism is a Socialist movement,” he pronounced, “only nobler and purer in form than Social Democracy”.

I always wondered where that word came from, thanks.
 

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Lol!
Sorry, didn't want to open that can of worms.
Hitler was a POS, lets leave it at that.
I would have thought that war and all that stuff would make the Jews more than a bit nervous of gathering into one area. Then to get them to to put a high wall themselves is really quite a feat so I wonder what piece of what big picture that comes out of? It isn't like the the Rothschild bankers have ever stabbed any partners in the back. It isn't like the Jewish banksters haven't escaped with the loot and left the poorest Jews there with empty pockets to be the whole of the reimbursement. If it was barb-wire you could tell who it was meant for by what side of the post the wire was on. Their current wall looks like it cannot be climbed from either side. Now if something goes wrong the new version of 'TEPCO lied and people died' will play out, . . . again.
 

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I always wondered where that word came from, thanks.



Right which makes even less sense to the point he was making.


Semites do not have to be Jewish or Hebrew.


It's like calling a liberal a Liberal.


Look up classic liberal on google, does it fit the modern day meaning from the right.....nope.
 

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I always wondered where that word came from, thanks.
I thought the last part was some money-changers last known name. (they change it every now and then for obvious reasons)
To be Jewish in the Bible you have to have been born in Judea. Rome was the last one to rule over Judea before the scattering in 70AD. Another king has to take control over Judea again and in prophecy any Gentile in that defined area on the day in question will qualify as being 'who is in Judea'. The Jews have a slightly different path through those days.

Good grief I knew that this was going to go the gay way no matter how I answered that.

"Stop stalking me!"
How big a stalk does he have?

(I presume you mean the aboriginals of the Americas?)
lol That you had to put that in would seem to be game/point/match all in one set of true words. A true Kodak moment if ever ...
 

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Right which makes even less sense to the point he was making.


Semites do not have to be Jewish or Hebrew.


It's like calling a liberal a Liberal.


Look up classic liberal on google, does it fit the modern day meaning from the right.....nope.

Yeah I don't even know what a Semite is. Always thought anti-semite was an odd term for anti-jew.
 

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Sherlock would probably say it helped you quietly sneak around in the shadows.

It's a weird term but it stuck. I can't stand people who insist that it applies to non-Jews on an etymological technicality.
Does that mean if somebody causes me to say 'Ouch' I can ask them to stop and they should? How many times of the not stopping part before I can specify an identity to go along with the 'stop' word?

BTW nice avatar, if the smile doesn't get you the stirring method will lol. The eyes would require a new thread