Horror Day of Israeli Attacks:

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I haven't yet got past the thousands of rockets that are/were being fired indiscriminately into Israel... Mind you, I am seeing some interesting, staged photos released by the PA.

You're right though, it is disappointing
Out of all those there was one unconfirmed person killed while Israel killed how many civilians doing the same thing. Hamas has figured out that not putting in a war head means you will always get the low score for 'collateral damage'. Since Israel still used bigger and bigger warheads it is unlikely the world will ever call them winners, except a few obviously.
Give Gaza some wires and such and they might be able to develop some guided rockets that can tap any drone flown into the area, without using a warhead. Considering the current trend is toward fuel/air explosions not having one is a sure sign they mean to do as little damage as possible, especially the ones that land in the desert.

Let some reporters in that are reporters and the faked photos will probably stop. Lots of real material available for all of the last conflicts, that why it is a restricted space. If the real photos got out rather than demanding it stop yesterday they would say it while holding a pitch-fork, do you understand what the difference is?

Go ahead and tell the people of Gaza not to 'clean up anything' until some photos are taken so you can be suitably impressed and are 'in the loop' because you now know that where the fake photos came from there are also real photos available, many, many real photos.

Let me guess, all sorts of body part photos (pixelated) from the Ukraine make it because the 'villain' is Russia, but when Israel is killing on a scale that dwarfs that then the only photos allowed to be publish are the ones known to be fakes. That about cover it?
 

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You are wrong, Israel has already lost. As the western sanctioning and applause of premeditated murder of innocents continues from hour to hour Israels foul taste is invariably communicated to the observers and they wonder if and when their turn comes.



The Palestinians are kept in a barrel which the Israeli dog shots into when he want's to feel like a man instead of a dung eating insect. I apologize to the insects.


Have you ever wondered why mustard describes both a condiment and a color?

... Gives one pause for thought
 

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Get over yourself....
If I could do that when I wanted I probably would have skipped over your post that originally caught my eye. Well, first this will mostly be about children in a war zone. Are children fleeing Central America, Eastern Ukraine, Syria more alive than unalike? I'm going to go with 'alike' and as such 'fixing the problems that they experience as a child' that forms what they do later in life is going to be cheaper and safer for society if those years are as pleasant as possible. You seem to promote that Isreal has a right to bomb them collectively for crimes they may not have committed but who cares as they would 'probably' commit one like it if they had the chance.
I'm also hoping to find out that you and tax are trolls or just collectively brain-dead. I'm leaning one way, the facts are leaning the other, it's territory.

The only speculation in either case is when/if the responsibility is assessed to an individual(s)... Any 'speculation' as to why or 'what side' did these deeds is sheer blindness.
Except when it comes to that being the rules in your part of town and you have the rocks and somebody else has the tank. We could avoid speculation by only referencing what is shown in the videos available. The attack on the tunnels has one chip of a house besude a larger complex being targeted with a ground disturbance weapon. When the dust had cleared there was a cone shaped crater left. If it was a storage depot for Hamas tunnelers should some paper not escaped or a secondary explosion if weapons were held there? Anyway the place won't be up for rent anytime soon. Could a smaller weapon been used, most certainly, level the house and any tunnels become useless. Depending on the ground and the lift you can determine what the area around would have felt in terms of 'shockwaves' and the ground shaking may have broken fewer windows but the vibrations would have broken pipes and foundation for a great distance and all those buildings become useless forever. I assume there is also a version that goes deeper and another that is meant to throw a great deal of dirt on many people tightly packed together. You can have the capability to do that and still be sane, you are insane when you act to make it a reality.

As far as the rock chuckers are concerned, talk to Hamas regarding the heroes that deploy their arms in schools, houses, mosques etc...
When you use those terms an Albertan will draw up some image based on person experience in the 'location I happen to be in'. That may not be the best definition when Gaza is involved, define the terms listed below where I have put down a short description of what I think it means (to me) when applied to Gaza and Israel.

Hamas, anybody in Gaza that has anything to do with any government function be it law enforcement or civil infrastructure. They are all classified as terrorists by Israel. Hospital workers become sympathizers so they can be bombed only after a campaign begins as attacking before the victims arrive would be unethical and illegal. Waiting till the wounded get bunched up before hitting them again get away from the 'double-tap' war crimes charge (but not the conspiracy)

Schools, a place children have to be sent to even though there are no supplies at the school so singing class is very popular. They are given an open area with playground equipment on it. Outside of school hours that equipment is 'terrorist training facility', That would apply to lunch hour also that is why all the kids go home for lunch which helps the IDF drones track each head literally using facial recognition software. All that data is used by the IDF to draw up a target list for the next campaign. Targeting children is also a tactic used to get at the parents.

Houses, the IDF would know which houses people meet at and targeting is probably done by phones just before the campaign and the whole house is destroyed to get the one with the phone number.

Etc.

Sure, you'd prefer that those that you feel are the wrongdoers simply stand idly by whilst their homes, schools and synagogues are indiscriminately blown to bits.
I've never said that or implied that. Give Hamas the tools they need to send their 'unarmed' rockets 'up' but have them do an controlled landing at a military complex.
The rockets coming out of Gaza can barely make a small hole.


Israeli army bombing the palestinian people in Gaza during the Ramadan - YouTube

See, this is where we differ on this specific issue...
I'm leaning that if the military can't fight wars amongst themselves then then they should all retire because I'm pretty sure the civilians would all say they prefer not to be bombed, let alone by bombs built with their own taxes. Just where are you 'on the issue'? I think North America could advance it's cause in Central America by taking in all the children for 20 years and then sending them back home when they can take over control of the govt and what we teach them in the 20 years we have them is how the next 200 years should go.
Show them Detroit, they might not want to stay at all and the stories back home may solve the gunfights as you can't laugh and aim at the same time.

I, personally don't give a flying fukk who did what to whom or what happened 10 or 10,000 years ago...
So, are you demanding the world do the same? You could stick to subjects that doesn't have a history greater than 10 days.

The only issue here for me is the heinous and reprehensible act by one group to push their women and children into extreme danger, and all for a PR campaign and photo op.
Israel should let the camera guys in, expose the deception even faster, right?

No speculation on that... One group of old men are more than willing to sacrifice the lives of others (being children/women) in order to fuel a centuries old grudge match.
UN 181 happened in 1947, the right of return for the Arabs that were exiled is what this conflict is about. That is why Gaza will win in the end.

Get over yourself
That's twice in one post, are you feeling dizzy also. Nothing a little 9/11 update won't cure.
 
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I watched Obama's news conference pointing a finger of moral outrage at Putin for financing 'terrorists' and facilitating acts of mass murder by way of Ukrainian separatists.

But there is a taint of hypocrisy in all that, especially with respect to the other big news story of the last few days, as the U.S. continues to bankroll the State of Israel in its systematic program of 'ethnic cleansing' of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.. which has led at least twice the number of innocent civilians killed as that of the Air disaster.
 

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I watched Obama's news conference pointing a finger of moral outrage at Putin for financing 'terrorists' and facilitating acts of mass murder by way of Ukrainian separatists.

But there is a taint of hypocrisy in all that, especially with respect to the other big news story of the last few days, as the U.S. continues to bankroll the State of Israel in its systematic program of 'ethnic cleansing' of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank.. which has led at least twice the number of innocent civilians killed as that of the Air disaster.

Ethnic cleansing.

Yeah that is exactly what they are doing.
Score= 1 point for the propaganda team.
What an absolutely piece of Inflammatory jargon.
 

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Ethnic cleansing.

Yeah that is exactly what they are doing.
Score= 1 point for the propaganda team.
What an absolutely piece of Inflammatory jargon.

Right. do you know that the Refugee Camps of the Gaza are now populated by the 3rd and 4th Generations of those forcibly expelled from Israel into the wretched, hopeless conditions of the Gaza.. to create 'Living Space' for the ethnically pure Jewish Race. Do you think Hamas started in a vacuum.

That's a phrase that preceded that of 'Ethnic Cleansing'. Why do you think Israel, despite all proclamations to the contrary.. continues to build settlements on the West Bank.. expelling Palestinians in a systematic fashion.. just below the level of media recognition.

Where did that term 'Living Space' originate. Oh.. I remember.. Hitler used it to justify his pogroms against the Jews and Slavic races of the East.
 
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petros

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Qawasameh Tribe

Who are they and do they work on the behalf of Hamas? Shin Bet doesn't think they do but Nutlessyahud is trying to peg everything on Hamas as a whole.

Is Nutlessyahud correct in doing so?

The Murderous Qawasameh Tribe | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

Though the clan is known for identifying with Hamas, it also has a well-earned reputation as troublemakers. Not only does it tend to ignore the movement’s leaders. It even acts counter to the policies being advocated by the movement.

That is why officials in the Palestinian Authority (PA) were shocked by the timing of the three boys’ abduction, just two weeks after the establishment of a Palestinian unity government. After all, the very creation of this new coalition came with the assumption that the Hamas leadership had come to terms with reality and moderated their positions.

Interesting....
 

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Do you think for all the discussion on this matter, things will be any different there in another 70 years?
 

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Right. do you know that the Refugee Camps of the Gaza are now populated by the 3rd and 4th Generations of those forcibly expelled from Israel into the wretched conditions, hopeless of the Gaza.. to create 'Living Space' for the ethnically pure Jewish Race. Do you think Hamas started in a vacuum.

That's a phrase that preceded that of 'Ethnic Cleansing'. Why do you think Israel, despite all proclamations to the contrary.. continues to build settlements on the West Bank.. expelling Palestinians in a systematic fashion.. just below the level of media recognition.

Where did that term 'Living Space' originate. Oh.. I remember.. Hitler used it to justify his pogroms against the Jews and Slavic races of the East.

I have seen three Israeli Prime Ministers attempt to negotiate a peaceful resolution with the Palestinians.

An all or nothing stance on the part of the Palestinians (or should I say their warring representatives) has thwarted a peaceful resolution. That is the problem here. I am no supporter of the present Prime Minister of Israel, but until the world (including Arab Nations) start holding groups like Hamas accountable, children will continue to die needlessly. This could have all been avoided if not for rockets launched out of Gaza. The Pigs of War are using the downtrodden and uneducated to keep their ridiculous cause alive.

There is no justification in what is happening here. It could be solved tomorrow, unfortunately hatred toward Israel perpetuates the madness, when pragmatism falls flat.