Bank of Canada downgrades Canadian economy

Tonington

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Meh, changes in the business cycle since the last forecast. A trim in growth by 0.2 for 2104 and 2015...the next time the forecast is out we could be up by that much. The root mean square errors in the forecasts from Bank Of Canada models for four quarters out are more than 0.2
 

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I think things would look a lot different if we could just get a couple of hundred thousand bureaucratic parasites off the public t*t.

Or more importantly if they are not going to help grow the economy at least stay out of the way.

As if they did anything the last time it tanked! (Or the time before)

Collected healthy paycheques while telling the rest of us to pay the bill and starve.
 

petros

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Opening export bottlenecks will change things soon enough. When AP Gateway construction, intermodal facilities, rail and road infrastructure winds down exports will explode and assembly for export jobs galore.

Projects this massive take decades to complete.

Wait ten years and there will be prosperity abound.

Better yet invest the the west and increase wealth along the way with retirement grade dividends that can be passed on to the next generations
 

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The article says Canadian banks are downgraded but then it says the individual banks are not downgraded. Is this a case of the sum being LESS than the parts?
 

petros

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Canadian banks have been acquiring US banking assets over the last few years... An econ turn-around will have a magnified effect at that point

Wasn't the conspiracy supposed to be US banks buying out Canadian? Doesn't TD have stadium rights somewhere down there?
 

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They have their name on the Boston stadium.

In terms of the US banks, O believe that the Fed restrictions were the blocks that made a take-over difficult.

That said, all we would need to do is take a look at the shareholder lists and count the number of American individuals and corps that own the Canuck banks
 

petros

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They have their name on the Boston stadium.

In terms of the US banks, O believe that the Fed restrictions were the blocks that made a take-over difficult.

That said, all we would need to do is take a look at the shareholder lists and count the number of American individuals and corps that own the Canuck banks

Or which US and Canadian institutions the GoC bought into through various funds. It's ready to find the SEC edgar searches. All GoC US investments are listed.
 

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Or which US and Canadian institutions the GoC bought into through various funds. It's ready to find the SEC edgar searches. All GoC US investments are listed.


The gvt angle makes sense for the pension funds, etc... On the flip-side, money/profits that get repatriated to the nation of origin get to tax them into the grave.

Big bennie in that
 

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Why Reports Say Canada's Economy Won't Recover For Several Years

This week the Bank of Canada reiterated our country's weak economic standing by downgrading expectations for growth both this year and next. "Right now, we don't have a sustainable growth picture in Canada," Governor Stephen Poloz said. The Bank is now forecasting that Canada's economy won't recover from the doldrums for several years.

This performance is a "serial disappointment," he said.

None of this is news to anyone but the Harper government, which seems to be nothing more than a hapless spectator as the economy falters from one bad indicator to the next.

For months on end, they dismiss weak employment numbers -- like the ones recently reported by Statistics Canada for the month of June -- as just "monthly volatility". But it keeps recurring, month after month. One might ask, at what point does that so-called "volatility" become an undeniable trend in the wrong direction. Or to put it another way, when will Mr. Harper pull his head out of the sand.

He tries to justify his grindingly mediocre record on economic growth and jobs by claiming to be doing better than any other G7 country. But that's neither true nor relevant.

The U.S. and the E.U. were at the epicentre of the 2008 recession. Their economies fell to rock-bottom. To claim that Canada, nearly six years later, is doing a bit better than that bad lot is not saying very much. In fact, some 140 countries in the world are projected to grow faster this year than will Canada. Should we be content with that?

Among G7 countries, over the past 18 months nearly all have made progress in reducing their unemployment rates (the U.S., the U.K., Germany, France and Japan), while the other two (Canada and Italy) have not. Is that good enough?

To camouflage his slow growth/no growth record, Mr. Harper claims to have generated "more than a million" new jobs since the lowest point in the recession. But examine his numbers. They are at least two years out of date.

More recently, the pace of job creation has markedly slowed. Fewer than 100,000 Canadian jobs came into existence in all of 2013, and the numbers in 2014 are on track to fall short of even that sorry figure.

The Bank is particularly concerned about the substantial decline in the "participation rate" in our labour force since just before the recession in 2008. It reports that 100,000 people aged 25-54 have given up looking for work altogether and that things are even more dire among our youth, with 200,000 dropping out of the labour force. Hardly a vote of confidence in Mr. Harper's performance!

And despite this lower labour market "participation", job creation is still not keeping pace with the numbers of people still looking for work. Indeed, in the month of June, there were 230,000 more jobless Canadians than just before the recession.

And what do we get from the Harper government?

Decision-making based on Kijiji postings. A year of tax-paid government advertising about a "Jobs Grant" that didn't exist. A temporary foreign workers system that is roundly condemned by both employees and employers alike. Complete denial about youth unemployment. And job-killing Employment Insurance payroll taxes frozen at artificially inflated levels to rake in more cash -- just so Mr. Harper can concoct a surplus on the eve of an election.

That's pretty thin gruel for close to 1.4-million jobless Canadians.

Why Reports Say Canada's Economy Won't Recover For Several Years | Ralph Goodale