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Tecumsehsbones

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It is the first time ever a team has scored seven goals in World Cup Semi-Final and Germany's 6-goal winning margin is the biggest winning margin ever in a World Cup Semi-Final.

The previous biggest winning margin in a World Cup Semi-Final was five, when Argentina beat USA 6-1 at Uruguay 1930 and Uruguay beat Yugoslavia 6-1 in the other Semi-Final at the same World Cup. There may have been others but I can't be arsed looking.

I remember when Germany won 8-0 in the 2002 World Cup, but that was only against minnows Saudi Arabia and not against a fellow football powerhouse.
So I guess there is a silver lining to your embarrassing performance and early exit. At least you were spared humiliation by die Mannschaft.
 

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What I cannot understand is, why did Scolari not have his team better prepared?


Obviously, they were missing a couple of good attackers. But you win on defense and the fact that neymar and thiago are missing should not mean the defense has been undermined. Brazil is stacked with good strikers and should have had a good alternative game plan.


This result is utterly pathetic.

Brazil were without their leading goalscorer Neymar, so were not as potent offensively and were nowhere near as dangerous in front of goal as in previous matches, especially when you consider that Germany's goalkeeper, Manuel Neuer, is probably the best goalkeeper in the world.

They were without probably their best defender and also their captain - their on-field leader - Thiago Silva, so they were not only impotent up front but also exposed in the centre of defence and, without their captain on the field, there was nobody to properly rally the troops on the field when they went behind.

Add the fact that whereas Germany's Manuel Neuer is probably the best goalkeeper in the world, Brazil's goalkeeper Julio Cesar is a crap goalkeeper who was only Queens Park Rangers' THIRD CHOICE goalkeeper even when they played in the Championship, the second tier of English football. QPR have just sold him to mighty Toronto in MLS. I think the Brazilians were so complacent - so confident they would score enough goals in each match to win - that they thought they didn't need a good keeper.

And then there was Scolari, who guided Brazil to World Cup glory in 2002 but decided last night to field a team with no formation whatsoever and dubious tactics.

So with an impotent attack shorn of Neymar coming up against the world's best goalkeeper, with the team missing their captain and best defender, having a **** goalkeeper and no formation, I think the mystery as to why Brazil lost 7-1 has been solved.

On Nicky Campbell's live phone-in show on BBC Radio Five Live this morning listeners were calling in saying how much they enjoyed seeing Brazil's demolition. One caller after another were calling Brazil - and their fans (have you noticed how the music is stopped two-thirds of the way through the Brazilian anthem before each Brazil match and the Brazil fans carry on singing the rest of it without music like some sort of war chant?) - arrogant and complacent, thinking they only had to turn up at their own World Cup to win it. At least two callers berated the BBC pundits, who throughout this World Cup have been looking at the Brazilians as the best thing since sliced bread, as though they were going to win the tournament without breaking sweat. BBC pundits such as former Liverpool and Scotland defender and former Match of the Day pundit Alan Hansen who, at half-time, said he was "devastated" by the result! One guy called in saying that, as an England fan, he doesn't normally cheer for Germany, but he was cheering them on last night to see them give the arrogant Brazilians a good stuffing.

These pundits are reminiscent of the referees at this World Cup who, as usual, give Brazil an easy time and let them get away with murder. Brazil defender David Luiz has been doing in this World Cup what he does when he plays for Chelsea - elbowing in the face any opponent that dares try and get the ball of him. Yet referee after referee has been allowing him to get away with it, not even booking him. Had an England player elbowed someone in the face he'd be given a straight red, yet Luiz and the other Brazilian players get away with all sorts. It comes as no surprise to me, therefore, that the boffins at FIFA decided to pick Marco Rodriguez as referee for last night's game, the same referee who failed to act on Luis Suarez's decision to bite Giorgia Chiellini (extraordinarily, the referee is nicknamed "Dracula" because of the way he looks). Brazil got away with absolute murder in their undeserved 3-1 win against the brave Croatians in the opening game of the tournament.

Put it this way - Had Brazil been merely 1-0 down in the last ten or twenty minutes of the match they would have started going down like flies in the German penalty area and perform extraordinarily extravagant dives all over the pitch, to try and cheat their way to victory, as they and other South American and Southern European teams are prone to doing.

By the way, there must be something in the water at Belo Horizonte. Since 1950 it has been famous as being where the minnows USA shocked the world of football by beating England, who were playing in their first-ever World Cup, 1-0. Now, for decades more, it will also be famous for being the place where Germany shocked the world of football by beating hosts Brazil 7-1.

World Cup

Semi-Final


Brazil 1-7 Germany
Oscar 90......................................Müller 11′ Klose 23′ Kroos 24′, 26′ Khedira 29′ Schürrle 69′, 79′


Heartbreak: Brazil fans at Copacabana beach


Glum: More Brazilians at the iconic beach


Shock: Fans during the first half of the thumping, in which Germany scored five goals in 18 minutes


Contrast: Joyous Germany fans inside the FIFA Fan Fest area on Copacabana


Agony: Brazil fans devastated


And a bit more agony: A frustrated fan grabs his head in pain


Joy: More German fans celebrating on the Rio beach


Delight: More German fans celebrations


Dismay: Brazilian children distraught in the same FIFA Fan Fest


Party time: A few more German fans


Pathetic fallacy: The rainy weather in Rio very much reflecting the mood of the people


Pleased: German fans celebrating goal in the first half of the game


Helpless: A Brazilian fan can't hold back the tears inside the stadium in Belo Horizonte


Bleak: A sad-faced Brazilian in the stadium after full-time




So I guess there is a silver lining to your embarrassing performance and early exit. At least you were spared humiliation by die Mannschaft.


England would not have got beaten 7-1.

Speaking of Hungarians, during the troubles in 1956 many immigrated to the USA, especially in the NYC area. There brought along a number of great soccer players in the amateur and semi-pro leagues. The mid 50s-60s was an incredible time for soccer fans in the NY metro area as we had a huge influx of East Europeans who brought soccer greatness with them. But then, we also had a great influx of Cuban baseball players and they brought up the level of amateur and semi-pro baseball.

I wasn't aware that the USA reached #4 - great to know but sad that we aren't there now.

Tim Howard's mother is Hungarian.
 
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England would not have got beaten 7-1.


You're right... the limeys would not have scored. It would probably be an 8-0 German victory over the Brits.


It would have been 6-0 at half time then the Brits would beg the US and Canada to save them yet again.
 

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You're right... the limeys would not have scored. It would probably be an 8-0 German victory over the Brits.


It would have been 6-0 at half time then the Brits would beg the US and Canada to save them yet again.


It would have been 2-0 or 3-0 to Germany. This England team would not capitulate like the Brazilians did.

I'll miss Suarez at Liverpool, he was at least entertaining. And if Gareth Bale is worth 100 million Pounds to Real Madrid, i suppose you could make an argument for 75M for Suarez.. even though Barcelona already possess the World's best footballer in Lionel Messi.

Frankly i don't know where the money is coming from for these transactions (to which you have to add the players actual salaries), much less how you make a financial case for it. Spain is in a Depression, rivaling that of the Great Depression.. but the world of Sport seems to exist in a separate ether from that of the real world these days.

HUP HOLLAND!!

Spain may be in an economic depression but football, the world's richest sport, most certainly isn't.

Barcelona are the world's third-richest football club, after Real Madrid and Manchester United, and are valued at $2.6 billion, so £75 million quid for Suarez is just money down the back of the sofa.

Manchester United pay Wayne Rooney £300,000 a WEEK.
 

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Fenway Park... Home of the Boston Red Sox...





Owners of Liverpool

Fenway Sports Group owns Liverpool FC AND Boston Red Sox and other teams.

Boston Red Sox do not own Liverpool FC.

That's three times I've told you that now. Liverpool FC and Boston Red Sox are both owned by Fenway Sports Group.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Fenway Sports Group owns Liverpool FC AND Boston Red Sox and other teams.

Boston Red Sox do not own Liverpool FC.

That's three times I've told you that now. Liverpool FC and Boston Red Sox are both owned by Fenway Sports Group.
He didn't say the Red Sox own Liverpool. He said Boston owns Liverpool. Boston is a city. Try remembering your history. It's the one General Washington kicked your a$$es out of.

Your reading comprehension sucks as bad as your alleged football side.
 

Blackleaf

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Yes, everyone who beats you is wrong to do so.

Kicking someone off their own land IS wrong.

And yet it happens so frequently. Go figure.

Yeah. We're always losing wars, aren't we?

The last time I looked, Britain's (and England's before her) win to loss ratio in conflict is about the best there is, and much better than America's.
 

EagleSmack

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Fenway Sports Group owns Liverpool FC AND Boston Red Sox and other teams.

Boston Red Sox do not own Liverpool FC.

That's three times I've told you that now. Liverpool FC and Boston Red Sox are both owned by Fenway Sports Group.

New Liverpool jerseys...



Liverpool is ours.