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You keep telling yourself that.

History teaches that on the rare occasions when the wealthy and government are "held accountable" for their actions against the poor at all, it usually doesn't go very well for the poor.



You forget that we are not talking about the USA where the right wing media controls how people think. In Latin America dictators who steal from the poor to enrich the wealthy often do pay for their sins. Chile's Allende, and Paraguay's Stroessner come to mind but there are more.
 

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You forget that we are not talking about the USA where the right wing media controls how people think. In Latin America dictators who steal from the poor to enrich the wealthy often do pay for their sins. Chile's Allende, and Paraguay's Stroessner come to mind but there are more.
Who were you responding to, the voices in your head? Because your response was completely unrelated to my comment. Re-read it.

Oh, and by the way, why does the "right-wing media" not control how you think? Are you not in the USA, or are you not a person?

Or perhaps you're just so extra-special that you alone are immune to the horrifying mind control, enit?

Can I call you Ishmael?
 

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That sure is an emotional response.

Latin American politics is one filled with injustices to the poor. All too often, however, the dictators are held accountable late in the lives of the dictators who are responsible for those injustices. Jail and exile for the likes of Allende and Stroesnner though it should have been well before they suffered those fates.

Over one million people have protested against Brazil's current injustices:


https://newsela.com/articles/brazil-protests/id/410/


This has not gotten any American media attention but more are in the works. Therefore, you can expect the current government to suffer a similar fate as did those I mentioned above.
 

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That sure is an emotional response.
I suppose so, if you class "amusement" as an emotion.

Latin American politics is one filled with injustices to the poor. All too often, however, the dictators are held accountable late in the lives of the dictators who are responsible for those injustices. Jail and exile for the likes of Allende and Stroesnner though it should have been well before they suffered those fates.

Over one million people have protested against Brazil's current injustices:


https://newsela.com/articles/brazil-protests/id/410/


This has not gotten any American media attention but more are in the works. Therefore, you can expect the current government to suffer a similar fate as did those I mentioned above.
Ooooh-kay.

I'll try again. I said in my comment that this "justice for governments" thing rarely works out well for the poor. Didn't address what it does to the governments. If you get past your eat-the-rich obsession, feel free to address that point. Or continue to pontificate about how the US is WORSE THAN NAZI GERMANY!

Whatever.
 

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Well, i'm sure Brazil will be looking for some redemption in the Consolation Final. 3rd Place in the World is, after all, not that bad.. but you'd probably have to do some convincing of that to Brazilian Football fans, who still lament a 1 goal loss at home to Uruguay in the 1950 Final that gave them second place.

They'll face the Netherlands who should have been in the Final, except they went into a defensive shell, and did not unleash their great strikers Robben or Van Persie to full effect.. and took their chances on Penalty Shots which is just about the same as flipping a coin.

I guess I'll have to support Argentina in the Final. But Germany seems to be an absolute scoring machine.. but i don't think you can judge from the inept defensive performance of Brazil. It seems to me that Argentina will be made of sturdier stuff, built around Central Defenders Martín Demichelis and Javier Mascherano...

GO ARGENTINA. ;)
 
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You don't want to get stuff like that? Then spare us the right-wing-media-mind-control crap. You sound like Walter.

In the alternative, explain to us how you're just so damn special that you escaped the brainwashing. My guess is it's by there being nothing there to wash.

Sorry, Walter, but the shoe does fit.
 
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In truth, it is a wonder that the repercussions haven't been worse - at least to this point. Hate to say it but I'm sure it is going to get worse for a long time. Brazil spent FAR too much money on displacing the poor in order to build up these stadiums and accommodations for the wealthy crowds that came to watch the matches. The wealthy benefited at the expense of the poor and some day the government is going to be held accountable for these costs which are seen as wastage.


And yet had Brazil won the tournament the whole of Brazil would have been celebrating and the costs of hosting the biggest tournament of the sport that is Brazil's second-biggest religion after Christianity would have been quickly forgotten.

If you think the Brazilians are unhappy at the moment after their humiliation against the Boche just you see what would happen should the hated Argies win the World Cup on Brazilian soil on Sunday, which they will do unless the Germans somehow become the first non-South American team to win the tournament on South American soil. That humiliation for Brazil would really top things off for them.

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Lots of people today are either too thin-skinned and easily upset about something which nobody would have batted an eyelid about twenty and thirty years ago or there are more people nowadays who like to express faux outrage about the slightest little things than there used to be.

100 people complaining about the showing of a sci-fi film trailer, with one person calling it "Crass, gratuitous, ill-timed, irresponsibly violent advert". Grow up, for God's sake.

Although when you consider that 10 million people in Britain watched Brazil vs Germany and only 100 of them complained about the advert it shows that the number of "offended" idiots may be, mercilessly, far less than we suspect.

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Luis Suarez: Liverpool & Barcelona agree deal for striker




11 July 2014
BBC Sport

Liverpool have reached a deal with Barcelona to sell Luis Suarez to the Spanish club.

The fee is understood to be around £75m.

Suarez signed for Liverpool from Ajax in 2011 for £22.7m, and had four years remaining on his current contract. He won the PFA Player of the Year award last season, scoring 31 league goals.

The Uruguay international is serving a four-month ban for biting Italy's Giorgio Chiellini during the World Cup.

"Luis is a very special talent and I thank him for the role he has played in the team in the past two years, during my time at Liverpool," manager Brendan Rodgers said.

"I hope you can all understand why I have made this decision," Suarez said. "This club did all they could to get me to stay, but playing and living in Spain, where my wife's family live, is a lifelong dream and ambition. I believe now the timing is right."

BBC Sport - Luis Suarez: Liverpool & Barcelona agree deal for striker

Well, i'm sure Brazil will be looking for some redemption in the Consolation Final. 3rd Place in the World is, after all, not that bad.. but you'd probably have to do some convincing of that to Brazilian Football fans, who still lament a 1 goal loss at home to Uruguay in the 1950 Final that gave them second place.

They'll face the Netherlands who should have been in the Final, except they went into a defensive shell, and did not unleash their great strikers Robben or Van Persie to full effect.. and took their chances on Penalty Shots which is just about the same as flipping a coin.

I guess I'll have to support Argentina in the Final. But Germany seems to be an absolute scoring machine.. but i don't think you can judge from the inept defensive performance of Brazil. It seems to me that Argentina will be made of sturdier stuff, built around Central Defenders Martín Demichelis and Javier Mascherano...

GO ARGENTINA. ;)


Argentina were the pre-tournament favourites to win the tournament, but with Germany putting seven past hosts Brazil (only in the 1938 World Cup in France did Brazil concede more goals than they did in this tournament) in the Semi-Final and Argentina only overcoming Holland on penalties in the other Semi-Final, Germany are now the favourites with most bookies to lift the trophy for the fourth time - and the first since reunification - at the Maracana on Sunday, to become the first non-South America team to win the tournament in South America.

Blackleaf's Stats

Germany and Argentina have met six times previously in World Cups, with Argentina only winning once - 3-2 in the 1986 Final.

Germany have scored 17 goals so far at this World Cup. Only in the 1954 World Cup in Switzerland, in which they scored 25 goals on the way to winning the tournament for the first time, did they score more goals than they have so far in this World Cup.

If Germany beat Argentina on Sunday they will have won six matches in this World Cup - more wins than they have managed in any World Cup since 1974, which they won as the host nation.

If Germany win on Sunday, it will be only the second time in which they have gone through a World Cup unbeaten. The only other time was when they won the tournament for the third time in 1990.

There have already been four shootouts in the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, a joint record along with Italia 1990 and Germany 2006. If the Final goes to a shootout on Sunday it will be a tournament record.

Argentina have won more games at this World Cup than in any other World Cup since 1986 in Mexico, which they won.


Argentina or Germany? They are two teams England fans love to hate, but our writers know who they are backing. Do you?


Two of England's biggest rivals meet in the Maracana as Argentina face narrow favourites Germany

Argentina are chasing their third World Cup win; Germany their fourth

Should you support Lionel Messi, Javier Mascherano et al... after all there are many similarities between English and Argentine footballing culture

Or should you go for the Germans, who are a force to be reckoned with under the tutelage of Joachim Low

By Rob Draper and Ian Ladyman
10 July 2014
Daily Mail


As Argentina and Germany prepare to battle it out in the Maracana, who should you be cheering? ROB DRAPER is behind Lionel Messi and the South Americans, while IAN LADYMAN is backing Joachim Low and his team. Who will you be supporting?


ARGENTINA

By Bob Draper

There’s one easy reason to support Argentina: Lionel Messi.

The Holland manager, Louis van Gaal, had a plan to subdue him in the semi-final but in every other match so far Messi has been playing on a level far above the other 21 players on the pitch.

Perhaps the clip of the World Cup is Nigeria goalkeeper Vincent Enyeama jokingly complaining to referee Nicola Rizzoli that he is giving Messi too many free-kicks.


Horseplay: Vincent Enyeama and Lionel Messi share a moment during their group match


A cool head: Messi converts Argentina's first penalty to give them a lead that they would not relinquish


Carrying the weight of a nation: Lionel Messi (left) and his team-mates charge after Maxi Rodriguez scored the winning penalty against Holland
VIDEO

Three reasons to support Argentina

1 If it wasn’t for them, there would be no Evita.

2 They have a Harrods in Buenos Aires and there’s an Anglo-Argentine Society in London to promote better relations, apparently by holding BBQs (asados). Still not working though, is it?

3 They are not Germany and don’t send their wives down before breakfast to put towels on all the best sunloungers.

‘I know he makes your job hard,’ says Rizzoli. Enyeama just rolls his eyes, shakes his head and breaks into a broad smile. ‘He’s so good!’ he says.

When even the opposition goalkeeper can take pleasure in your brilliance, you have achieved something truly universal — something that can be appreciated beyond the allegiances of club and country.

But there’s another reason why England supporters should consider supporting Argentina. If you have any love of English fan culture and the ability our fans have to support teams through thick and thin, following home and away whatever the difficulty, then you will appreciate Argentinian football fans.

They have been by far the largest travelling contingent here, for obvious geographical reasons. They have also been by far the most passionate and vocal, with a range of chants and songs — mostly aimed at Brazil, but with admittedly one or two directed at England — that few countries, other than the UK Home Nations, would match.


Fervent fans: Argentina's support at the World Cup has been phenominal


Blonde ambition: Argentina fans pose before their semi-final... and they will be hoping for a similar outcome in the Maracana
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I once saw Boca Juniors play at their home ground, the Bombonera, against their hated rivals River Plate. It was a calamity of a game for Boca, who lost 3-0 at home in what was their most important game of the season.

The River Plate supporters, all 10,000 of them, were revelling in the victory with 20 minutes to go. Having seen Spanish and Italian fans in similar circumstances, I had in mind a certain reaction, expecting the Boca supporters either to walk out or start hurling abuse or missiles at their team.

Instead, for a full 20 minutes, all 40,000 of them — from those in the posh seats to the terraces — stood and continuously chanted about how much they loved Boca and how they would never stop supporting them.


Spine tingling: The Bombonera has a partisan atmosphere all of its own


Talk about the passion: Diego Maradona celebrates a Boca goal against River Plate in 2006

It brings to mind England fans applauding their team at the end of this World Cup.

Only in Britain and Argentina do football fans behave like this. Despite our differences, we have much more in common than we think.

GERMANY

By Ian Ladyman



West Germany beat Argentina to win the 1990 World Cup

Good teams start tournaments well and get even better. Germany have managed both those things — as they often do — and that is why I think they will win this World Cup and why I would like them to.

Germany’s record in the opening games of World Cups is remarkable. They have won their first match in the last seven tournaments.

Compare that to the way England often seem to stumble into major championships and it begins to look even more impressive.

German teams know how to approach these tournaments, physically and mentally. Their big players come off long, taxing seasons with their clubs but manage to bring their true selves to the World Cup.


Strong start: Thomas Muller hits the fourth as Portugal were put to the sword


Powerhouse: German chancellor Angela Merkel was in jubilant mood in Salvador

Reasons to support Germany

1 If it wasn’t for them there would be no Dad's Army or ’Allo ’Allo.

2 They invented some great kids’ stuff, including Gummy Bears and Fanta. Also, Germans wrote Grimms’ Fairy Tales — which are a great way to give your children nightmares after scoffing all those E numbers.

3 They are not Argentina and don’t want the Falklands (as far as we know).


Meanwhile, their bit-part players — the likes of Miroslav Klose, Mario Gotze and Lukas Podolski — do not become disenfranchised by the lack of a starting guarantee. They travel motivated, energetic and ready to contribute when called upon. In the most part, that’s what they do.

Look at Klose. Has there ever been a more absolute World Cup footballer?

Arguably, he has never been an A-list European striker. He has never been chased particularly hard by clubs in the Barclays Premier League, for example.

He is 36 now and playing for Lazio. But he scored a vital equaliser against Ghana with his first touch of this World Cup as a substitute and is now expected to start in the final.


A man for all seasons: Miroslav Klose hits Germany level against Ghana to rescue a point





Smells like team spirit: Lukas Podolski regularly tweets images of a delighted Germany squad behind closed doors

Things like that say much for talent and the knack of a goal-scorer but also for the understanding of tournament football that seems to come naturally to German players.

This is not a brilliant German football team. Only two or three — Bastian Schweinsteiger, Manuel Neuer and perhaps Philipp Lahm — would get into famous German teams of yore.

Nevertheless, they are talented enough in key areas and function brilliantly as a unit. They are managed shrewdly and without fuss by Joachim Low and are mentally resolute enough to cope with anything, as they showed in their semi-final against a Brazil team hyped to their eyeballs on false notions of destiny.


The last line of defence: Manuel Neuer has shown he is arguably the best keeper in the world


History beckons? Philipp Lahm will hope to follow Fritz Walter, Franz Beckenbauer and Lothar Matthaus as German captains to lift the World Cup

One last thing that draws me to this German team is that, one day, this could be England.

Low doesn’t have a Messi or Ronaldo to call on. His team hasn’t been dragged along by God-given genius.

It’s a football team full of good players who know what they’re doing. Is there really any reason why — some day soon — England cannot mimic that?


Read more: Argentina or Germany? They are two teams England fans love to hate, but our writers know who they are backing. Do you? | Mail Online
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I think Suarez is not irreplaceable to Liverpool's prospects. They're well managed, and frankly the constant drama that swirls around Luis Suarez has become a big distraction. There's no better pure striker in the world imho.. but a more rounded playmaker, and less turbulent.. might take Liverpool back to the top of the English Premier and Champion's League (where they belong).

VAMOS ARGENTINA. :)
 
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Argentina's Mascherano tore his anus against Netherlands
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First posted: Thursday, July 10, 2014 02:01 PM EDT
Javier Mascherano made a game-saving play, but it came at a painful cost.
The Argentina centre back made a diving tackle to break up an Arjen Robben run in the box during extra time in Wednesday’s World Cup semifinal showdown against the Netherlands.
Mascherano doubled over over in pain. The reason, he told reporters, was because he tore his anus on the play.
Uh, ouch.
It wasn’t the only painful play for Mascherano in the match. The Argentine collapsed to the ground after butting heads with Dutch opponent Georginio Wijnaldum. At first, Mascherano tried to shake it off, but he lost his balance moments later.
Despite the apparent head injury, he stayed in the game.
Argentina went on to win 4-2 on penalty kicks and will meet Germany in the World Cup final Sunday.
Argentina's Javier Mascherano apparently tore his anus on this game-saving tackle against Netherlands winger Arjen Robben during their World Cup semifinal match Wednesday. (Reuters)

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