viva fifa!

Blackleaf

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Let's see... Cheer for the European Germans or the South American Germans? Hey, anyone have a pfennig?





I had to grit my teeth when posting that, but I'd rather them win than the Argies.
 

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So, would you say most of y'all island Germans support your Continental relatives?

Probably. And Sky News has been looking at social media around the world - this World Cup has been the most talked about thing on social media ever - and found that the vast majority of comments supporting either Germany or Argentina were supporting Germany. That was the case in almost every country.



I wonder if the Argies will chant their song during the match, to the tune of a Creedence Clearwater Revival song:

"Brasil, Decime Qué Se Siente,
Tener En Casa Tu Papá,
Te Juro Que Aunque Pasen Los Años,
Nunca Nos Vamos A Olvidar,
Que El Diego Te Gambeteó,
Que Cani Te Vacunó,
Estás Llorando Desde Italia Hasta Hoy,
A Messi Lo Vas A Ver,
La Copa Nos Va A Traer,
Maradona Es Más Grande Que Pelé"



"Brazil, Tell Me How It Feels,
To Be Bossed Around In Your Own Home,
I Swear That Even If Years Pass,
We Will Never Forget,
That Diego [Maradona] Out-Skilled You,
That Cani [Claudio Caniggia] Surprised You,
You Are Crying Since Italy [World Cup 1990] Till Today,
You Are Going To See Messi,
The World Cup Will Be Ours,
Maradona Is Greater Than Pelé"

And I've just found out that kick off in football's biggest match is at 8pm my time, not 9pm. Just forty minutes to wait now. I can't wait.
 

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Well, at long last the WC tournament is over. The finale, like the earlier games, to be remembered for a long time to come. It sure was exciting and decided in the final minutes as befits a true championship. Both teams exerted all they had but in the end it was Germany who won the WC.

Kudos to Germany for a job superbly well done.
 

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Blackie,

Not to mention the fact that the Brazilian league is going through a bit of a disastrous time, too, with all the best Brazilian players going to the riches of Europe when they are 15. Most of the 200 million Brazilians won't even know many of the Brazil players that well.


An African friend of mine makes the same complaint about African teams - the best players follow the money and go play in the Euro soccer leagues. This weakens the African teams and the Africa Cup tournament becomes less exciting. Marginal players are advanced in their premier leagues and the game becomes less fun for the the fans. This also leads to charges of favoritism on the part of team managers who advance players from their tribal groupings. Big Euro dollars really hurt Third World soccer. But that's the way it is.
 

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They could design Liverpool FC baseball shirts for them to wear.





No. As I've pointed out many times, John W Henry owns Liverpool.


The Boston Red Sox OWN Liverpool.


These will be the new Liverpool shirts.





The Ingrish suck at soccer.
 

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Mario Götze becomes the first substitute to score the winner in a World Cup Final as Germany win the World Cup for the first time in 24 years, for the first time since reunification and to become the first European team to win the tournament in the Americas, sparking wild celebrations in Berlin:

Germany Win World Cup For Fourth Time

World Cup Final

Germany 1-0 Argentina (after extra time)
Götze 113′


By Phil McNulty
BBC Sport at Estadio Maracana

Gotze scores brilliant extra-time winner for Germany
First European side to win World Cup in South America
Higuain and Messi waste chances for Argentina
Messi below best at Maracana


On top of the world: Germany's players hold their trophy up high as they celebrate becoming the first European team to win the World Cup in South America


Germany were crowned world champions for the fourth time as Mario Gotze's extra-time winner beat Argentina in the 2014 World Cup final.

Gotze demonstrated perfect technique and commendable calm to chest down Andre Schurrle's pass and sweep in a left-foot finish with the prospect of a penalty shootout only seven minutes away.

Argentina, with skipper Lionel Messi looking subdued despite flashes of his talent, could not respond and Germany claimed their first World Cup since they beat the same opponents in Rome 24 years ago.

The success means Joachim Low's side have become the first European team to win the trophy in South America.

Gonzalo Higuain wasted Argentina's best chance in the first half while Germany defender Benedikt Howedes hit the post with a header seconds before half-time.

Germany had to regroup after losing key midfielder Sami Khedira to injury in the warm-up - and his replacement Christoph Kramer to a blow to the head before half-time - but they shrugged off these setbacks to write another triumphant chapter in their sporting history.

Argentina's fans were the vast majority of a crowd that created a vibrant atmosphere inside the Maracana - although Germany were well represented and had the support of many yellow-clad Brazil supporters who still turned up despite seeing their hopes of watching the hosts in the World Cup final dashed by that stunning semi-final beating at the hands of Germany.

German supporters stayed in their places more than an hour after the final whistle as the victorious side indulged in lengthy celebrations of a win that vindicated the rebuilding plan put in place when they suffered the humiliation of going out of Euro 2004 at the group stage, which resulted in then coach Rudi Voller's resignation.

Germany had reached the semi-finals of the previous two World Cups but have now managed the crowning achievement for coach Low, who not only brought the trophy back to Germany, but also ended Europe's grim record in this tournament on South American soil.

Argentina failed to have a shot on target in the entire game and four-time world player of the year Messi looked an increasingly jaded figure as the game went on.

The Barcelona star never stopped striving to carry his team over the line in the manner achieved by his great predecessor Diego Maradona, who inspired them to their last World Cup when they beat Germany in Mexico City in 1986.



For Germany this completes the transition for a group of emerging players such as Golden Glove winner Manuel Neuer, midfield man Mesut Ozil, defender Mats Hummels, captain Philipp Lahm, Thomas Muller, Toni Kroos and even the injured Khedira.

After destroying hosts Brazil 7-1 in Tuesday's semi-final in Belo Horizonte, this was a game that required different qualities such as resilience and concentration - but Germany were never found wanting and their ecstatic celebrations at the end were in contrast to the tears of the Argentines.

And ominously, 22-year-old match-winner Gotze symbolises the next generation of Germany players that coach Low declared would dominate for years to come when he addressed the media 24 hours before this final.

For now, though, they have another World Cup to celebrate and while it may not have been the extravaganza many hoped would crown this thrilling tournament, Germany are worthy winners.

Argentina, with Messi's speed and sleight of foot posing problems for the previously untroubled Hummels in the early phases, had the game's first big opportunity courtesy of Kroos' error.

Match facts

Germany have won the World Cup for a fourth time. Only Brazil (5) have more wins.
Argentina conceded a goal in extra time at the World Cup for the first time.
Argentina failed to have a shot on target in a World Cup game for the first time since the 1990 final v West Germany.
Germany are the first European team to win a World Cup in the Americas.
Germany's total of 18 goals is the most in a World Cup since Brazil scored 18 in 2002.
Argentina only trailed for seven minutes in the entire tournament.

The Bayern Munich midfielder delivered a misplaced header that sent Higuain clear on goal but the striker did not live up to his elevated reputation with a horrible miscued finish that did not trouble Neuer.

Higuain had the ball in the net soon after from Ezequiel Lavezzi's cross but he was clearly offside - although his prolonged celebration suggested he thought differently.

As Argentina continued to trouble the German defence, it needed a crucial clearance from Jerome Boateng on the goalline as Messi pulled the ball back for his inrushing colleagues.

It was not all Argentina though, and keeper Sergio Romero made a fine save from substitute Schurrle - on for Kramer - a stop made even better as Ozil ducked right in front of the unsighted keeper as the shot came in.

The closest either side came to a goal was right on half-time, when Howedes crashed Kroos' corner against the post with Romero beaten.

Messi had been threatening and he almost put Argentina ahead seconds after the break, only to pull a poor finish across goal with his normally lethal left foot.

As the final entered the closing 10 minutes, Kroos had Germany's clearest opening for some time but he sent a sidefoot finish off target after Ozil had laid the ball invitingly into his path.

So it was extra time, and while Argentina's Rodrigo Palacio was off target when he lofted a finish over Neuer, Gotze showed class and composure to decide an increasingly attritional game with the final flourish of quality this Fifa World Cup in Brazil fully deserved as its conclusion.


Germany's Mario Gotze became the first substitute to score the winner in a World Cup final


More than 250,000 German fans are estimated to have watched the game at Berlin's Brandenburg Gate


More than 25,000 police, soldiers and firefighters ensured there was tight security around the Maracana


Cheers for heroes: The Germans link arms as they celebrate with their trophy. A fourth star will now be added above the crests on their shirts.


Ticker tape parade: Philipp Lahm lifts the World Cup trophy as the team celebrate the dramatic win


Wags united: The wives and girlfriends of the German squad enjoy their moment in the spotlight after cheering on their partners in Brazil


Differing emotions: Manuel Neuer holds the Golden Glove trophy as Messi fails to raise a smile despite winning the Golden Ball trophy

Back home: There were also wild celebrations in Berlin, where many fans had gathered in fan parks to watch the action on a big screen

Thrilled: German fans excitedly wave their flags and scarves, cheering loudly as they mark the win at a screening in Berlin

Cause for celebration: Fans back home in Berlin were just as excited to see their team's win as the supporters who made it to Brazil were

Celebration time: German fans celebrate with fireworks at an outdoor screening area near the Brandenburg Gate. More than 200,000 Germany fans thronged in central Berlin for the World Cup final, turning an avenue behind the Brandenburg Gate into a sea of black, red and gold flags


Team spirit: Götze and his girlfriend Ann-Kathrin Broemmel chat with teammate Jerome Boateng's children after their 1-0 victory over Argentina. Jerome's brother, Kevin-Prince Boateng, played for Ghana at this World Cup


Klose family: Germany's Miroslav Klose with his wife Sylwia Klose and their twin sons, Noah Klose and Luan (top), as Götze gives his team's hard-won trophy a kiss

Family outing: Former England, Manchester United, Real Madrid and LA Galaxy star David Beckham and his three sons Brooklyn, Cruz and Romeo were all in attendance - with the boys all wearing Argentina kits

Warm welcome: Brazilian football legend Pele (left) greets English football legend David Beckham as the two take their seats for the game

Passion: German soldiers serving in a NATO-led peacekeeping mission celebrate their team's World Cup victory at a military base in Prizren, Kosovo

Courage: German soldiers at Camp Marmul in Mazar-e-shari, Afghanistan, leap into the air with joy as the final whistle blows in the 2014 World Cup final

Time to party: Germany's match-winning striker Mario Gotze was seen enjoying a drink with the pop star Rihanna after the match. Seconds after he scored his winning goal, Rihanna tweeted the words 'Super Mario!'

Great prize: Rihanna was seen partying with the victorious German side in Rio after they won the 2014 World Cup Final. Here she is seen holding the World Cup trophy itself while being kissed on each cheek by stars Lukas Podolski (left) and Bastian Schweinsteiger (right)


Memories: Sami Khedira, who is likely to move from Real Madrid to Arsenal now the World Cup is over, celebrates Germany's victory over Argentina with his girlfriend Lena Gercke (top). Bastian Schweinsteiger, meanwhile, took the opportunity to get his World Cup winning colleagues to sign the shirt he wore during the match (bottom)

Victor: German striker Mario Gotze won Germany the World Cup with his stunning extra-time goal. Here he is pictured holding the trophy and celebrating with his girlfriend Ann-Kathrin Broemmel during a post-match party

Winners: Miroslav Klose of Germany (centre) poses with Chancellor Angela Merkel and his sons Luan and Noah in the dressing room after he helped his side win the 2014 FIFA World Cup final. Klose finished the tournament as the highest scoring footballer in World Cup history




Here's a man who may be happy with last night's 1-0 scoreline:



Sir Geoff Hurst, 72, won the World Cup with England in 1966 and his hat-trick in England's 4-2 win over West Germany in the Final still remains, for at least another four years, the only hat-trick ever scored in a World Cup Final.

 
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I listened to ESPN radio and they said that the WC tournament has spurred some interest in MLS soccer. TV ratings should be going up and hopefully this will strengthen the league.
 

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An African friend of mine makes the same complaint about African teams - the best players follow the money and go play in the Euro soccer leagues. This weakens the African teams and the Africa Cup tournament becomes less exciting. Marginal players are advanced in their premier leagues and the game becomes less fun for the the fans. This also leads to charges of favoritism on the part of team managers who advance players from their tribal groupings. Big Euro dollars really hurt Third World soccer. But that's the way it is.

And I can't see an end to it soon.

When a kid from a poor African neighbourhood, whose family has been living in poverty for years, suddenly has scouts from Manchester United, Manchester City, Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Inter Milan or some other big European team visiting him and asking him does he want to play for that team, and possibly earn £200,000 a week, astronomically more than he'll get at his local club, there's no way he'll turn down that offer. Europe and, to a lesser extent, South America, are going to continue being attractive to players from around the world.
 

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I just don't think Lionel Messi was himself.. he had atleast 3 prime opportunities to score... and although i've really only seen him Champion's League games.. he usually converted them at Barcelona. He had a limp off earlier in tournament and didn't score a goal after that.

Congrats to Germany, though.. it was thorough Teutonic victory.. a regular blitzkreig. :)
 
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#15 is a good ranking but I remain disappointed that it is not higher. But let's be honest, we were unlucky in that we were in the Group of Death, our lead scorer was injured, and the second lead striker got an elbow to the nose which broke his face. If these two injuries hadn't taken place and if Landon Donovan had played, I'm sure we would have gotten a higher ranking.

Oh well. At least we rank higher than many countries where soccer is religion.

GO YANKS!!!!!
 

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Chelsea Handler blasted for 'tasteless' Hitler parody
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First posted: Thursday, July 17, 2014 09:15 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, July 17, 2014 09:27 AM EDT
Comedian Chelsea Handler has upset Jewish leaders after dressing her chat show sidekick Chuy Bravo up as Nazi leader Adolf Hitler for a TV skit.

Officials at the Anti-Defamation League were not amused when the Mexican entertainer poked fun at Germany's World Cup win by appearing as the man responsible for the Holocaust on Handler's show Chelsea Lately.

A statement from Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director and a Holocaust survivor, reads: "While we try to give comedians leeway and do not believe that Nazi jokes should be completely off limits, this was an instance of taking a Hitler parody to the extreme. It was tasteless, offensive and hurtful, both to Holocaust survivors and their families and to members of the German team and all Germans.

"This Hitler parody in itself was tasteless, but Chelsea Handler’s references to it throughout the program and her connecting it with Germany’s World Cup victory took the joke way overboard."
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