There is no point in trying to redeem myself, CL. The price is too steep and Jesus already paid it for me. No need to complicate things. Just believe : )
Again I implore you to actually think this through.
No one can undo or pay the price for one's karmic debt.
Buddha , and I quote only the word's of Buddha we know are true, which are simple and few and far between.
"No one can erase your Karma but yourself."
The blood and Alchemy Jesus Christ performed with His Life and Death is well beyond the ordinary to comprehend, hence the BS
shod in Evangelical churches in His Name.
You would do well to analyze A Great Prayer known as the Lord's prayer.
In it there are two interpretations;
"Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive as we forgive those who trespass against us"
or the older
Forgive us our debts as we forgive those indebted to us"
and then I believe there is a version which uses sins.
so the true meaning behind this prayer then.
You are conversing with God. Keep that in mind.
And you are reciting a prayer inspired by the Holy or Great Spirit for people to not just recite but to ponder it's actual meaning and more importantly it's intent.
Basically you are trying to establish within your self the ability to forgive.
You wish to ask the Universe in which you dwell and do the odd boo boo to forgive you for your boo boo's as you forgive others' boo boo's.
And the Universe is showing you you will be forgiven as you forgive others.
So if you hold a grudge and don't forgive others. Well you do the math.
The Beatles sang "And in the end, the love you take Is equal to the love you make"
I brace myself for your steadfastness in your programming. Your posts motar are a cry in the wilderness of pain and programming, wrought by your masters.
You miss the point of this chance of a human birth.
If you actually think what Christ did on the Cross is a get out of jail free card , you are in for a much rougher ride in eternity than you would wish for.
Those wishes have been programmed by the Great Negative Function that exists in order for you to exist.
You need to exorcise your free will.
A great line from an old hippy song in the 60's goes like this;
"God is within you and works through your will"
Shawn Phillips
He dwarfs his 12 string guitar
in the same way Jesus's Message Dwarfs time.
I leave you with a line from another Hippy our own Leonard Cohen
Listen well . listen well.For Jesus does touch your perfect body with his mind.
And Jesus was a sailor
When he walked upon the water
And he spent a long time watching
From his lonely wooden tower
And when he knew for certain
Only drowning men could see him
He said "All men will be sailors then
Until the sea shall free them"
But he himself was broken
Long before the sky would open
Forsaken, almost human
He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone
And you want to travel with him
And you want to travel blind
And you think maybe you'll trust him
For he's touched your perfect body with his mind.
He wrote another line , Cohen did.
"I'm the little jew
who wrote the Bible "
