Northern Gateway pipeline approved with 209 conditions

[JLM]

All of the indigenous peoples living on the coast are opposed. They live there and they derive their living from the sea. They know the coast better than anyone. Go shoot your mouth off at them and see how far you get.

Even if that was true Cliffy, it would only prove their thinking is flawed. I watched Chief Stewart Phillip on the idiot box yesterday and the interviewer asked him what provisions could be made to change his mind to accept the project. He said none, his mind was made up. My wife who has lived on the coast and has indigenous blood happens to be in favour of the project.

 

[petros]

EI Economic Region of Northern British Columbia (2000)

Unemployment Rate & Benefit Table
(for the period of June 8, 2014 to July 12, 2014)

Unemployment Rate:* 11.8

Number of Insured Hours Required to Qualify for Regular Benefits:* 490
Minimum Number of Weeks Payable for Regular Benefits:* 23
Maximum Number of Weeks Payable for Regular Benefits:* 45

A map of the EI Region of Northern British Columbia and 1996 Census Divisions including Buckley-Nechako Regional District, Cariboo Regional District, Central Coast Regional District, Fort Nelson-Liard Regional District, Fraser-Fort George Regional District, Kitimat-Stikine Regional District, Mount Waddington Regional District, Peace River Regional District, Skeena-Queen Charlotte Regional District and Stikine Region

No Petros, it's true.

Rods, reels and fishing gear is in the aisle right next to the seafood counter at Wal-Mart... Damned convenient, I say

11.8% unemployment says they aren't making a living from the sea.

It's the hiring requirements that require FN people get jobs. They'll he forced to work or be cut off the gravy train.

 

[Locutus]

"Remember when this country knew how to build a pipeline?"

Late last year, the federal review panel that approved the Northern Gateway project listed 209 conditions that had to be met. That panel began hearing public comments way back in mid-2010. Which is to say: This one panel was in operation for longer than it took for the actual Trans Mountain Pipeline to be scouted, conceived, planned, built and activated. Sixty years ago, we laid pipe. Now we lay paper.
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We need a famine.


"Remember when this country knew how to build a pipeline?" - Small Dead Animals




in other news...

reader comment from sda:


I will always stand behind the fluid meme that our FN/aboriginal/native/Indian/ Canadians are the stewards of the the earth.

They are the ones that protect the pristine wilderness that the evil Harpo wants to destroy. The pipeline will go through the heart of the ' Sacred Spirit Great Kathmandu Bear Rainforest'. I don't know the exact name.

BUT, holy crap.

Apparently one of these Great Sacred Spirit Katmandu Bears has been captured and the evil Calgary zoo is holding a contest to name it.

What is worse, they captured it near Sparwood.

I think that the Northern Gateway controversy drove it away.

The controversy also made it a 'nuisance' bear that hangs around garbage dumps.

Whoa, now I get the connection. You animals rock.

Calgary Zoo’s white black bear makes its debut | canada.com

 

[Locutus]

Lorrie GoldsteinVerified account ‏@sunlorrie

We've heard enough from Trudeau & Mulcair about how they oppose every conceivable method of getting Canada's oil and gas resources to market





Lorrie GoldsteinVerified account ‏@sunlorrie

@acoyne Mulcair a no on Keystone. Trudeau on Energy East tenuous at best http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/05/24/justin-trudeau-east-west-pipeline_n_3326597.html … and both would curtail oil sands devp't








We've heard enough from both of them anti-Canadian scumbags period.

 

[mentalfloss]

Meanwhile, in the real world:

Conservatives distance themselves from Northern Gateway approval

Conservative MPs and staff are distancing themselves from the Northern Gateway pipeline proposal, despite being enthusiastic about finding a way to ship natural resources to Asia.

The government also refused on Tuesday and Wednesday to supply a Conservative MP to CBC News Network's Power & Politics for a panel discussing the decision.

Several Conservative MPs from British Columbia rushed away from reporters trying to ask them questions.

"There's a reason for that: This is an incredibly unpopular decision.... These guys have gutted environmental laws, destroyed whole acts that exist on the books of Canada, all to enable this project. They are wedded to it. They can't be half-pregnant on this."

Mark Warawa, who represents Langley, B.C., said Enbridge has a year to figure out whether it can meet the 209 criteria set by the NEB. He also downplayed the government's acceptance of the NEB recommendation.

"The government has not said go ahead and do it. They've said we agree with the recommendations of that independent review panel," Warawa said.

Conservatives distance themselves from Northern Gateway approval - The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

 

[captain morgan]

Great... The CBC.

'nuff said

 

[mentalfloss]

Great... The CBC.

'nuff said

Your unfurling cap and it's a bit unnerving to see your true self.

 

[captain morgan]

Time to get over it Flossy... Harper still hasn't played the 'National Interest' card yet.

It's done.... Move on with your life

 

[Locutus]

they'll be quite mad for a long time.

 

[captain morgan]

they'll be quite mad for a long time.

Expect a few hundred more threads on this... It's the standard response by the butt-hurt

 

[JLM]

Expect a few hundred more threads on this... It's the standard response by the butt-hurt

I think the outcry is beginning to abate. Quite a few other "items" have taken over the news in the past 24 hours it seems. Of course we'll continue to hear from the really noisy minority.

 

[taxslave]

All of the indigenous peoples living on the coast are opposed. They live there and they derive their living from the sea. They know the coast better than anyone. Go shoot your mouth off at them and see how far you get.

All they are doing is hoping for some free loot. Most of them do not even live near where the tankers will run. The only occupied rez even close is Hartley Bay. Then there is the Nishga that are openly inviting oil and gas companies to build in their territory.

The NDPQ has died in the West.

Unions have partnered with Provincial Govs for training. Indians get to jump the waiting lists. If you know any Indians with carpentry skills I can get them working in Edmonton guaranteed. $28 an hour to start.

WHy would they take a pay cut to go to some frozen wasteland? $36 + bennies here on union jobs. Camp and transportation included.

 

[petros]

They aren't pay $36In BC to somebody who just walked out of a premployment course.

 

[mentalfloss]

Expect a few hundred more threads on this... It's the standard response by the butt-hurt

Not my problem the Cons are compromising the project by not defending it.

 

[petros]

The plan the Libs hatched?

Justin Trudeau Against Northern Gateway But Still Wants Oil Exports To Reach Asia

What is his plan?

 

[Zipperfish]

I think the outcry is beginning to abate. Quite a few other "items" have taken over the news in the past 24 hours it seems. Of course we'll continue to hear from the really noisy minority.

I don't think so. Hard to predict of course, but I suspect this will evolve to soemthing like the "war in the woods" of the 80s, over concerns with forestry practices. One of the conditions for the pipeline is consultation with First Nations, and that's going to be a mighty hard condition to meet, considering the overwhelming opposition by First Nations.

 

[petros]

Trudeau said China National Offshore Oil Co.'s $15.1-billion takeover of Calgary-based oil and gas producer Nexen Inc. (TSX:NXY) is "good for Canada" because the investment will help create middle-class jobs and bolster its trading relationship with China.

What is Nexen and who do/have they employ/employed?

But Trudeau said there are alternatives to get Canadian oil to coastal waters. For instance, Kinder Morgan is looking to expand its Trans Mountain line, which currently delivers crude to the B.C. Lower Mainland.

"I know that corporations and oil companies are looking at different ways of doing it and I look forward to seeing more projects like that," Trudeau said.

"I'm sure someone's going to figure out how to do it, because it is too important for us. It is just that particular pipeline that I have real concerns about."

The oils is still going to flow boys and girls. Pony or no Pony.

Please vote Liberal

 

[pgs]

I don't think so. Hard to predict of course, but I suspect this will evolve to soemthing like the "war in the woods" of the 80s, over concerns with forestry practices. One of the conditions for the pipeline is consultation with First Nations, and that's going to be a mighty hard condition to meet, considering the overwhelming opposition by First Nations.

Yup when the enviromentalists left their camps in worse shape then when they arrived .
I remember both the save the Stein ( might be misspelt ) and Clayquot Sound camps were disaster areas .
No boy scouts there.

 

[lone wolf]

Hell, at least it's new and purpose-built - unlike the 50-year-old clunker TCP wants to repurpose for Energy East

 

[petros]

Hell, at least it's new and purpose-built - unlike the 50-year-old clunker TCP wants to repurp.ose for Energy East

It could go through the US below the lakes and be shorter.