How was it that she was able to stop when a motorcycle with a shorter stopping distance couldn't stop. Also, how is it possible that a curve on a highway is so blind, that a person travelling at a safe speed can not stop once something becomes visible to them? Also. In a hypotheticall situation where visibility is reduce by road hazard or fog, why didn't the driver slow down so he wasn't overdriving his reaction time?
Motorcyclist and daughter killed when woman braked on highway to avoid hitting ducks
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hypothetical: even 'no stoppin highways" can become a parking lot due to traffic congestion or an accident. If this piece of road is so poorly built that a stopped car can kill a safe attentative driver, then wouldn't it be reasonable to find the road unsafe, and the province at fault?
Still haven't figured out how to insert an image that isn't a URL so I am linking a blurb with the photo. It may not have been a curve but looks like an on-ramp at that spot (or an off ramp?) not a wide highway either.
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A tough call and a great debate. It says she plead (pled? pleaded?) not guilty. I get that for criminal negligence causing death but she should have plead (again?) guilty to dangerous driving causing death. IMHO. This will be an interesting case and I kind of wish I WAS on the jury.
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A tough call and a great debate. It says she plead (pled? pleaded?) not guilty. I get that for criminal negligence causing death but she should have plead (again?) guilty to dangerous driving causing death. IMHO. This will be an interesting case and I kind of wish I WAS on the jury.
Nope, that won't fly- above all you are supposed to drive according to road, traffic and weather conditions.
I am sorry this sounds so caulous but it seems to me that the motorcyclist was driving with undue care and attention. That car could have easily been a moose with the same outcome.
Yep, violent death is always sad and when driving you have to be prepared to deal with conditions as they occur.
More info from an eye witness...
Witness describes seeing accused on highway outside parked car, motioning to ducks
Witness describes seeing accused on highway outside parked car, motioning to ducks
Ok, this is not helping your case. The eye witness was able to successfully brake and swerve with a pick up truck and trailer in tow.
And, it is still believe that the motorcycle was travelong at a safe speed?
And, it is still believe that the motorcycle was travelong at a safe speed?
What I got from that was that the woman on the highway distracted from what was up ahead (her car). The witness said she swerved without checking her right. Maybe the motorcyclist's wife was to his right. We will never know why he didn't make it around the car. The first thought of this witness was that she hopped the median on foot. Maybe he thought the same thing. Split seconds decided the outcome. I'm on the fence about why/how it happened. But I don't believe she should do time in prison.
It almost sounds like they are testing to waters on this one, so i have to wonder what is so critical about the details that they want her tried.
What I get from this case is that this woman was able to stop, get out of her car, and still have time t go chase ducks. Motorcycles do have shorter stopping distances but this guy unable to avoid hitting the car.......probably because he was driving too fast.
I do not disagree that it is a hazard to stop a car on a busy road. And, I agree that she should be convicted of atleast some sort of traffic violation that will cost her a thsand dollars and a license suspension. However, to lay the total blame on her is uncalled for. Obviously, the fatality was partly due to the motorcyclist
I'm sorry, but if there is any traffic (either behind me, or oncoming) I will hit the animal if I have to. If I cannot safely avoid hitting the animal(s), then they will be hit. I will attempt to avoid hitting an animal (cat, rabbit, duck, etc.) if I am safely able to, but not if it will endanger anyone else.
I'm not saying that she deserves to spend life in prison (it's not like was driving drunk), but she certainly needs to spend some time in prison. Her stupidity caused the death of two people, and regardless of intent, she should be punished for it.
I'm not saying that she deserves to spend life in prison (it's not like was driving drunk), but she certainly needs to spend some time in prison. Her stupidity caused the death of two people, and regardless of intent, she should be punished for it.
Your an idiot. Remember Karma, she is a friend to people like me, for people like you. You are saying the man and his daughter deserved what they got, death? Why because they were on a motorcycle.
I hope the stupid broad gets life. I am sick and tired of the stupid ignorant no minded drivers out there and especially the a-holes on cell phones. I would have ran the ducks over.
a thousand dollar fine and license suspended,,,wow now that is what is wrong with this country and why so many people are out there doing stupid things. I bet she has no remorse.
The motorcylcist fault,,on a road with a curve, yeah he seen her ahead. Driving to fast,, with his daughter on back...not likely, and to assume he was is only making an *** out of the one assuming.
I hope she gets life in prison, and her cell mate is a biker...lol!
I think most of the comments against the biker and his riding skills comes from those that do not know what riding a bike is about. Also could be a few haters of bikers.
Have you tried to make a panic stop on a motorcycle????
So what do you ride Juan?
Yes, my last panic stop was to avoid running my sportster into the bad end of a 1 ton pick up truck with a flatbed that would have crush my chest and killed me? Why was it a pnic stop? Because I allowed myself to be inattentive. Why am i still alive? Because I was able to stop my bike faster than the truck infront of me.
How about you? Do you know anything about motocycles?
How about you? Do you know anything about motocycles?
That's not even remotely close to what is being said in what you've quoted. Not even kind of.
And, speaking of idiots
Are you talking to me? Yes I do know lots about motorcycles,, don't really care about crotch rockets or jap crap.,,,,I am a harley's only.
My husband and I ride a streetglide.
Glad you made it!
That's not even remotely close to what is being said in what you've quoted. Not even kind of.
And, speaking of idiots
LOL! Takes one to know one.
Congratulations. I hope your husband can stop the dynaglide faster than a pickup truck towing an RV. I honestly do. That was all that was required in this case.
Think about it. A truck towing an RV was able to brake and swerve around the hazard, what does that tell you about the motorcycle operator?
Think about it. A truck towing an RV was able to brake and swerve around the hazard, what does that tell you about the motorcycle operator?