Abortion -The poll is not based upon Religious belief - It is based ethics

[BornRuff]

Mercy passes. Pass the problem off to the next teacher.



Go find your mistake instead of arguing you read it right the first time.

This is really sad. If you are so sure of yourself, you could probably explain it, no?

If you can't, that isn't your fault, but you shouldn't take it out on others.

 

[petros]

Only you can explain your jibberish. I can't and it's not my job.

 

[gerryh]

This is really sad. If you are so sure of yourself, you could probably explain it, no?

If you can't, that isn't your fault, but you shouldn't take it out on others.

here ya go.

Not up to me to teach you basic English comprehension skills. Maybe you should have paid more attention in school to those that got paid to teach you.

 

[BornRuff]

Only you can explain your jibberish. I can't and it's not my job.

This why I worry about you.

We were talking about your gibberish.

Maybe my mistake was asking you to clarify what you wrote and expecting any sort of answer?

here ya go.

Lol, what on earth are you trying to prove with that?

Was anyone ever questioning if Petros tried to insult me?

 

[gerryh]

I suggest a remedial English course, should be available from your local Adult Education Centre.

 

[petros]

This why I worry about you.

We were talking about your gibberish.

Maybe my mistake was asking you to clarify what you wrote and expecting any sort of answer?



Lol, what on earth are you trying to prove with that?

You want me to explain your confusion when only you can.

If you ask me "are you saying" and it's complete and total jibberish and completely unrelated to what is said, don't expect an answer.

 

[BornRuff]

I suggest a remedial English course, should be available from your local Adult Education Centre.

Will they teach me how this exchange leads petros to believe that I said I wasn't human?

You have human hair but not hair of a human?

Neither of those statements imply that the hairs are themselves humans(noun).

You aren't human? Thanks for letting me know. It explains plenty.

 

[petros]

Are you saying I said you were a Hindu from Saturn riding a goat?

 

[BornRuff]

You want me to explain your confusion when only you can.

If you ask me "are you saying" and it's complete and total jibberish and completely unrelated to what is said, don't expect an answer.

Exectly what part of this post was hard for you to understand?

Just because something is human(adjective) doesn't necessarily mean that it is a human(noun).

Are you claiming that there is a law that says ears are humans(noun) or simply that they can be described using the adjective human(aka, human ears, human hair).

It is a pretty big difference, since there is nothing wrong with chipping off human hair simply because it is human(adjective), but it is illegal to kill a human(noun).

I have never heard of a law that grants individual personhood to individual body parts, so I would be interested to see what law you are talking about.

 

[petros]

Exectly what part of this post was hard for you to understand?

Just because something is human(adjective) doesn't necessarily mean that it is a human(noun).

Are you claiming that there is a law that says ears are humans(noun) or simply that they can be described using the adjective human(aka, human ears, human hair).

It is a pretty big difference, since there is nothing wrong with chipping off human hair simply because it is human(adjective), but it is illegal to kill a human(noun).

I have never heard of a law that grants individual personhood to individual body parts, so I would be interested to see what law you are talking about.

 

[BornRuff]

Even the basic concept of adjective and nouns? That is pretty rough man.

 

[petros]

Even the basic concept of adjective and nouns? That is pretty rough man.

Read carefully.....

Human cells used to culture an ear are living human cells. They sure as sh-t aren't marmoset cells and they aren't dead

where and how did you get humans out of "living human cells"?

Well?

 

[BornRuff]

Read carefully.....

where and how did you get humans out of "living human cells"?

Well?

Ok. So we have figured this out. You are confused about what post I was responding to.

Look at the quote in the post we are talking about.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/125097-abortion-poll-not-based-upon-12.html#post1923195

It is the end of this exchange.

Check the laws behind living stem cell use from "human embryos".

Don't think they have anything to do with abortion or murder or what is considered a human being under the law. They certainly do not say an ear grown artificially on a rat's back is a human being.

They define something you falsely called tumours and parasites as human. Ears included.

 

[petros]

No "humans" or claims of anything being humans was there? Human embroyo and human fetus are used to draw up human embryo and human festus protection laws but they (human embryos and human fetuses) don't exist eh?

 

[JLM]

They are fetuses.

You can refer to the adjective vs noun post above if you want.

They are human fetuses, just like I have human hair on my head, but neither the hairs on my head or fetuses are humans(as in the noun).

Now that is just plain f**king stupid- hair is just part of the entire entity whereas the fetus IS the entire entity! This thread needs someone to inject some sense into it and it certainly isn't you!

 

[petros]

Good luck JLM. It has more issues than People magazine.

 

[Colpy]

Your example wasn't even from Canada, and it is clearly already illegal in Canada.

It doesn't prove that late term abortions happen in Canada. It doesn't prove that laws need to change to prevent stuff like that.

What exactly do you think it points out?

What, you think there are no doctors lacking morals in Canada???

And NO late term abortion is NOT illegal;. Jesus, you guys just haul this stuff out of your ****, don't you??

Now, here is some reality:

The Supreme Court of Canada has NEVER ruled that a woman has an unrestricted right to abortion.

NO abortion is illegal in Canada.

Spare me idiotic answers........if you care to argue the point, give my the decision that grants unrestricted abortion rights, or quote me the Criminal Code that makes ANY abortion illegal..

Or STFU.

 

[BornRuff]

What, you think there are no doctors lacking morals in Canada???

And NO late term abortion is NOT illegal;. Jesus, you guys just haul this stuff out of your ****, don't you??

Now, here is some reality:

The Supreme Court of Canada has NEVER ruled that a woman has an unrestricted right to abortion.

NO abortion is illegal in Canada.

Spare me idiotic answers........if you care to argue the point, give my the decision that grants unrestricted abortion rights, or quote me the Criminal Code that makes ANY abortion illegal..

Or STFU.

If there is anyone in Canada doing anything similar to that, please show us.

Killing a baby after it is born is murder, which is why Kermit Gosnell is charged with murder. That is also illegal in Canada.

If someone is willing to murder babies after they are born, do you think any law about specific weeks that abortions can take place makes any difference to them?

Now that is just plain f**king stupid- hair is just part of the entire entity whereas the fetus IS the entire entity! This thread needs someone to inject some sense into it and it certainly isn't you!

That is obviously a matter of opinion.

On the most basic level, the difference between a part and an entirety is completely conceptual. A strand of hair is a strand of hair on its own. Attached to a body or not, it is still a strand of hair.

Is a fetus a separate being or is it part of the woman? The fetus is physically attached and inside of the woman. It can't breathe or survive in anyway without that attachment.

In many ways a fetus and a strand of hair share a very similar relationship to the woman. They both have to be attached to the woman to live and grow. If they are separated they both will no longer grow and are just dead.

 

[Spade]

Colpy sticks to his guns even when he is wrong.

 

[BornRuff]

No "humans" or claims of anything being humans was there? Human embroyo and human fetus are used to draw up human embryo and human festus protection laws but they (human embryos and human fetuses) don't exist eh?

Well, yeah. Read the back and forth.

He says that an ear is not a human being, you respond that some law(still not referenced) defines them as "human".

That is why I tried to get you to clarify exactly what you mean.

If you are only using it in the adjective form though, what is the point?