There is no such thing as "climate science"

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If you show up at a medical conference and tell people that you don't believe that penicillin is an antibiotic, then don't expect to be taken seriously by the other doctors. If you show up in a course on relatvitiy and say that you don't buy that whole E=mc^2 business, don't expect to be taken seriously by other scientists.

And in case you think is just us big bad AGW proponents picking on teyh Galileo like skeptics, keep in mind that WUWT (the most popular skeptic website out there) says that the electric universe theory is hooey adn won't discuss it on his site. Roy Spencer--a heavy hitting skeptic scientists--states that he has absolutely no time at all for people who refute the greenhouse theory.
Well watching a show the other night I was struck by the statements of one of the subjects .
She stated one of the exciting things about science is finding yourself wrong .
the show and her statement were in no way connected to global warming or whatever it is now but I liked her point .
 

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Well watching a show the other night I was struck by the statements of one of the subjects .
She stated one of the exciting things about science is finding yourself wrong .
the show and her statement were in no way connected to global warming or whatever it is now but I liked her point .

So do I. Skeptics are necessary. A lot of science is wrong.
 

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Do you honestly think that asking my opinion on scientific concepts is a reasonable use of time? Remember what I said in the last post, I know what I don't know.

You are not going to alter the accepted body of scientific research by based on how I answer that question. Is your next project to debate physics with english majors in order to prove that E=MC^2 isn't true?

Your beef is with the scientists doing the research, not me.

What did I say about sidetracking?

The problem is very simple mathematics required for calculating exponential CO2 increases and heat retention which is the flagship of the moron floatilla.
 

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What did I say about sidetracking?

The problem is very simple mathematics required for calculating exponential CO2 increases and heat retention which is the flagship of the moron floatilla.
By the way, I googled and there are a lot of universities offering Ph.D.s in climate science and climatology.
 

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The planet is just fine. Always has been and will be long after all us maggots dissolve.

Any hugging of it's circumference and sceeching against that is a exercise in self-important dwama queening.

Y'all have a nice evening.
 

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Climatology is Climatology it's not the same as Climate Science. Climate science is a clique.

Ok, just ignore that I said climate science and climatology.

Just like the Warmanistas, you simply ignore what doesn't agree with your hypothesis.

Real good science there.
 

petros

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What am I ignoring?


Q.What types of phenomena do climate scientists study, and how do you go about studying those phenomena?

A. * Climate scientists study long-term trends in average meteorological conditions and changes in these averaged conditions from season to season, year to year, decade to decade. They do not generally engage in forecasting or prediction of actual events (e.g., tomorrow’s temperature or precipitation) but rather average conditions (e.g., daily maximum and minimum temperature to be expected on a July day of any year). They do engage in projecting future scenarios of climate, as opposed to forecasting actual future conditions. For example they might project a future climate scenario (say the decade of the 2040s) that had an average daily maximum temperature for September that was 3.5°F higher than the current average daily maximum for September. But they would not predict the sequence of daily maximum temperatures for that decade. The phenomena studied by climate scientists include average conditions of all meteorological variables, such as the change in average conditions of precipitation, temperature, humidity, pressure, wind, and cloudiness, or average occurrences of events such as droughts, floods, heat waves, and storms. Both climatologists and climate scientists study climate change, but the climate scientist would use numerical models to further seek answers to questions such as what variables are changing, how much are they changing, why are they changing, and what are the consequences of these changes.
 

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Well watching a show the other night I was struck by the statements of one of the subjects .
She stated one of the exciting things about science is finding yourself wrong .
the show and her statement were in no way connected to global warming or whatever it is now but I liked her point .

Yeah, the problem for some people is that they simply can't accept when they are wrong.

This seems right in line with the type of crap the scientist int he OP experienced because he didn't agree with the popular group.

No, it is in line with the response you should get if your point of view is not substantiated by any evidence or fact.

There is no problem with challenging commonly held beliefs, but you have to be able to actually back up what you are saying.

What did I say about sidetracking?

The problem is very simple mathematics required for calculating exponential CO2 increases and heat retention which is the flagship of the moron floatilla.

If you can't understand a basic part of their theories, does that automatically mean that they are wrong?

You have not shown the ability to interpret basic research results, so I wouldn't bet on you being right about this one either.

If you have any evidence to back this up though, please let me know.
 

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In other words you know you're f-cked if you do answer. Good job.

As in if I get a question wrong you prove global warming is wrong?

What exactly are you getting at here?

If you want to refute global warming, refute the actual research done by the experts, not some idiot on a forum.
 

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As in if I get a question wrong you prove global warming is wrong?

What exactly are you getting at here?

If you want to refute global warming, refute the actual research done by the experts, not some idiot on a forum.
He has consistently refuted your arguments but unfortunately some people refuse to admit they were wrong .