Gay Agenda attacks Benham Brothers after Pro-Christian Statements

FiveParadox

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Back to the Original OP, two brothers voiced that they are religious and prefer the traditional family, and their show dropped... I guess it's not a two way street, it's OK to be Gay and show it, but be straight, religious and stand up for that you'll be banned.

Yeah... that, or a channel with a huge gay viewership discovered that it would be a pretty questionable business decision to start flag-shipping a new television program co-hosted by staunchly anti-gay people.
 

B00Mer

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Yeah... that, or a channel with a huge gay viewership discovered that it would be a pretty questionable business decision to start flag-shipping a new television program co-hosted by staunchly anti-gay people.

Eh!! You nailed it on the head... you mean it's O.K. to be pro-Gay just not pro-Religious... both are peoples different lifestyles..

One is a sexual lifestyle and the other faith based lifestyle..

So by YOUR standards it's OK to attack a faith based lifestyle, because that is not bigotry to you.. you're not tolerant towards religion, just gays. So who's the Bigot?
 

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As I have said many many times, that is not necessarily true.........

There is a wide spectrum of sexual preference, and only those that fall at the extremes of that spectrum have no choice.........the rest of us do, to a greater or lesser degree.

To assume sexual preference is NEVER a choice is as incorrect as to assume that sexual preference is always a choice....

I agree that there is a wide spectrum of preference. What I don't get is how you can say anything but the extremes of that spectrum is a choice. Just what are these "Extremes" you mention? No one can choose to be straight, gay, bi, trans, pansexual, asexual, etc and so on. No one. To say otherwise leads me to, again, ask when did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual? Since it's not an extreme, then you can tell me when you chose to be that, to that greater or lesser degree.

What is the true choice is, is whether to act on those preferences and with what partner. But you can't choose what emotional attraction you have to another person.
 

FiveParadox

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Eh!! You nailed it on the head... you mean it's O.K. to be pro-Gay just not pro-Religious... both are peoples different lifestyles..

One is a sexual lifestyle and the other faith based lifestyle..

So by YOUR standards it's OK to attack a faith based lifestyle, because that is not bigotry to you.. you're not tolerant towards religion, just gays. So who's the Bigot?

That's a pretty fantastic stretch, there. I said nothing of the sort.

If HGTV wants to hire Christian presenters, cool. Nothing wrong with having people of faith up there on the television screen, doin' their house-flipping and interior design. More power to them. If they're going to be presenters on HGTV (with, as I mentioned, a significant gay viewership), they might re-think actively lobbying against rights for gay and lesbian people. That's where the discrimination is.
 

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No one can choose to be straight, gay, bi, trans, pansexual, asexual, etc and so on. No one. To say otherwise leads me to, again, ask when did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual?

Horse pucky..

Sex is just SEX, and in most cases is all about power and control.

Sexual preference... I'm not sure there is really a sexual preference.. I think humans are nothing more than base animals when it comes to sex and when they need to get off it really doesn't matter who they lay down with, as long as they feel good in the end.

I'm going to bet even money that FiveParadox has had a same sex relationship at one time or another..
 

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Horse pucky..

Sex is just SEX, and in most cases is all about power and control.

Sexual preference... I'm not sure there is really a sexual preference.. I think humans are nothing more than base animals when it comes to sex and when they need to get off it really doesn't matter who they lay down with, as long as they feel good in the end.

I'm going to bet even money that FiveParadox has had a same sex relationship at one time or another..

Yes, sex IS just sex. I don't think you're right to say that it's about power and control but whatever.

My point has been that sex is just sex. But sex isn't preference. Sex is acting out on your preferences (whether you have any, or none). But preferences can't be chosen. Even if you think we're all just base animals and just go for whatever gets us off, that's still a preference. The CHOICE is to act on it and who you act on it with.
 

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Probably for the same reason images of Church and a traditional family bring out so much haterad and cause a TV show to be cancelled if one says they PREFER that kind of lifestyle over same sex.


Lol, nobody cares about a picture of a man and woman being married. They care about people speaking out against other people who are not harming anyone.

Remember what the people in the OP said? They complained about "homosexuality and its agenda that is attacking the nation"


What about it? Why would any brand want to be associated with an event that needlessly discriminates against people?

Back to the Original OP, two brothers voiced that they are religious and prefer the traditional family, and their show dropped...

This is in no way about someone simply saying that they prefer to marry people of the opposite sex. It is about people talking about "homosexuality and its agenda that is attacking the nation".

I guess it's not a two way street, it's OK to be Gay and show it, but be straight, religious and stand up for that you'll be banned.

This is asinine. How are simple being yourself and attacking other people similar in any way.

If you want to be religious personally, that is your own business. If you want to go out telling people that they are living wrong and shouldn't have equal rights, that is a different issue.

Eh!! You nailed it on the head... you mean it's O.K. to be pro-Gay just not pro-Religious... both are peoples different lifestyles..

One is a sexual lifestyle and the other faith based lifestyle..

So by YOUR standards it's OK to attack a faith based lifestyle, because that is not bigotry to you.. you're not tolerant towards religion, just gays. So who's the Bigot?

Lol, nobody is attacking anyone for living a "faith based lifestyle". If you want to go to church and be straight, nobody cares at all. Just like nobody should care if someone else wants to have sex with people of their own gender and possibly not go to church.

They are "attacking" people who decide to try to tell other people how they should live or try to limit other people's rights.
 

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Eh!! You nailed it on the head... you mean it's O.K. to be pro-Gay just not pro-Religious... both are peoples different lifestyles..

One is a sexual lifestyle and the other faith based lifestyle..

So by YOUR standards it's OK to attack a faith based lifestyle, because that is not bigotry to you.. you're not tolerant towards religion, just gays. So who's the Bigot?

This is where you are failing: no one has said its OK to attack a faith-based lifestyle... until your faith-based lifestyle tries to impose itself on others. I don't care who people sleep with, as long as I don't have to sleep with them. I don't care who people worship or how, until they start telling me who I have to worship and how.

As for the "free speech" angle, its the same old story: no one is getting arrested for voicing their opinions, but free speech doesn't protect you from sanctions from private individuals or corporations. The right to let you be an idiot in public doesn't extend to protecting your job when you say things that are harmful to your employer... and with the number of homosexual and alt lifestyle viewers of the DIY network, its idiocy to think there wouldn't be some push back on this... unless they knew they were going to be canceled because of poor ratings (I have no idea what their numbers are) and decided to go out with some noise...
 

SLM

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This is where you are failing: no one has said its OK to attack a faith-based lifestyle... until your faith-based lifestyle tries to impose itself on others. I don't care who people sleep with, as long as I don't have to sleep with them. I don't care who people worship or how, until they start telling me who I have to worship and how.

As for the "free speech" angle, its the same old story: no one is getting arrested for voicing their opinions, but free speech doesn't protect you from sanctions from private individuals or corporations. The right to let you be an idiot in public doesn't extend to protecting your job when you say things that are harmful to your employer... and with the number of homosexual and alt lifestyle viewers of the DIY network, its idiocy to think there wouldn't be some push back on this... unless they knew they were going to be canceled because of poor ratings (I have no idea what their numbers are) and decided to go out with some noise...

Completely agree, anyone can hold whatever opinion they wish/want/desire. Personally I do respect that right irrespective of agreeing with or respecting the opinion itself (although I will admit it's trying sometimes). When your personality is your job however, as in the case with a television personality, then you need to be mindful of taking any kind of controversial stance on any political topic if your desire is to keep your job. Ultimately networks are responsible to their advertisers.

Having said that though, there are sometimes situations where any side of a hot topic issue can be and/or come across as heavy handed, crass, trollsome, making moutains out of molehills, etc. because they are so entrenched in their 'cause' that they don't see the bigger picture. And that can sometimes be troublesome too.
 

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You are an a$$ boomer.
You are entitled to any opinion you wish. You just can't ban others opinions in the process.
They have the same freedom as you.
Also you have know idea about FiveParadox.
You should get to know him. He can think circles around you. You might learn something from him.
 

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It has nothing to do with the bible, koran, torah. Religion...law. Separate.

It's funny how people can be so blatantly wrong yet still somehow believe they are right.

Saying a RELIGIOUS ceremony like marriage has nothing to do with the Bible, Torah or Koran is, simply, bonkers.
 

SLM

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I think you forgot to put this in purple. Marriage is a legal union between 2 people who (most of the time) love each other. It has nothing to do with the bible, koran, torah. Religion...law. Separate.

It's funny how people can be so blatantly wrong yet still somehow believe they are right.

Saying a RELIGIOUS ceremony like marriage has nothing to do with the Bible, Torah or Koran is, simply, bonkers.

Yes it's amazing how some people can be so blatantly wrong yet still somehow believe they are right.

Especially when you conveniently leave off the part where the poster you are replying to said nothing about a ceremony and was instead talking about the legal status. But it's not really a surprise you'd need to heavily edit in order to have something to reply to, you are the King of Cut & Paste after all.:roll:
 

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Yes it's amazing how some people can be so blatantly wrong yet still somehow believe they are right.

Especially when you conveniently leave off the part where the poster you are replying to said nothing about a ceremony and was instead talking about the legal status. But it's not really a surprise you'd need to heavily edit in order to have something to reply to, you are the King of Cut & Paste after all.:roll:

This is what he said:

I think you forgot to put this in purple. Marriage is a legal union between 2 people who (most of the time) love each other. It has nothing to do with the bible, koran, torah. Religion...law. Separate.

And he's wrong. A religious ceremony like marriage has everything to do with the Bible, Torah, and Koran.

It's funny how we Christians are allowed to have Christian weddings yet we are forced to ignore our Christian faith because of you liberals allowing two men or two women to marry each other.
 

SLM

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This is what he said:

I think you forgot to put this in purple. Marriage is a legal union between 2 people who (most of the time) love each other. It has nothing to do with the bible, koran, torah. Religion...law. Separate.

And he's wrong. A religious ceremony like marriage has everything to do with the Bible, Torah, and Koran.

It's funny how we Christians are allowed to have Christian weddings yet we are forced to ignore our Christian faith because of you liberals allowing two men or two women to marry each other.


Wow, you really are a tool. It's right in front of you and you still refuse to see it. Obtuse or just stubborn?

What a waste of bandwidth and time you are.
 

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Why does a parade or a flag supporting this specific group invoke images of force feeding to you?

We have parades for tons of groups. Irish people, Greek people, Sikhs, Tamils, Caribbeans, people celebrating all sorts of religious holidays all shut down streets for celebrations and are all acknowledged by various governments. Why are you not up in arms about those events?

Why should people who are gay have to hide who they are anymore than anyone in any other group?

It's not the parade that bugs me. Its the assumption that anybody who does not attend must be a homophobe and/or a bigot. Like the countless stories of non-attendance by the Mayor of Toronto for example. If he is at his cottage, he is at his cottage. Attendance by anybody should not be mandatory.
 

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Wow, you really are a tool. It's right in front of you and you still refuse to see it. Obtuse or just stubborn?

What a waste of bandwidth and time you are.

How many times do you want me to repeat what he said? Am I rattling you?

This is what he said:

I think you forgot to put this in purple. Marriage is a legal union between 2 people who (most of the time) love each other. It has nothing to do with the bible, koran, torah. Religion...law. Separate.


And he's wrong. A religious institution like marriage which is performed in a church or a mosque or s a synagogue has EVERYTHING to do with the Bible, Koran and Torah.
 

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This is asinine. How are simple being yourself and attacking other people similar in any way.

Interesting, where in this whole thread did I say I disagree with same sex couples... where..

I stated that I don't agree in a double standard.. Gays want respect for what they believe, and Christians what respect for what they believe... which is Homosexuality is a sin and it is damaging the moral fabric of the USA.

Should we not respect both views equally? However, you keep saying that the Christian view is racist or bigoted.

That's just the way those people want to live, Christians that is..

I say anyone who denies the Christians their point of view and way of life is just as bigoted.

Bill Maher: "There is a Gay Mafia, If You Cross Them You Get Wacked" - YouTube

Just watch out for the gay mafia, you cross them you'll get whacked, spanked, maybe even sodomized. :lol:
 

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Yes it's amazing how some people can be so blatantly wrong yet still somehow believe they are right.

Especially when you conveniently leave off the part where the poster you are replying to said nothing about a ceremony and was instead talking about the legal status. But it's not really a surprise you'd need to heavily edit in order to have something to reply to, you are the King of Cut & Paste after all.:roll:
It's okay SLM, he's pissed at me. No biggie.