Slavery Canada style

[Dixie Cup]

If that is truly what's happening, then charges should be laid and HEFTY fines allocated to these employers and the foreign workers need to go back home so that Canadians can get these jobs. IF that's in fact what's happening.


However, my understanding is that getting these workers here by jumping through the red tape and the cost is quite high, i.e. the whole process is quite onerous. The companies are also responsible for paying their way here and for accommodations (not the employee). Bottom line is that it is far cheaper for companies to hire Canadians then foreign workers so something is amiss here.


Hmmmm - could it be the unions? Nah, say its not so!


Some companies end up paying their foreign workers MORE than what they would a Canadian. Yep, something is amiss fer sure!!


JMHO

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

This isn't limited to McDonalds, I know a couple who have a Tims franchise in Alberta and they bring most of their workers over from the Philippines and require that they rent rooms in property they own. The program is so under-regulated that it makes problems like this inevitable.

There are areas where there are labour shortages due to people going for the higher paying jobs like in the oil fields or tar sands, but companies like McDonalds seem to be taking advantage of this to create a captive work force which does smack of slavery despite of what its CEO claims.

McDonald's Canada CEO John Betts Calls TFW Controversy ‘Bulls**t,' Then Aims At CBC

McDonald’s Canada went on an all-out attack against the CBC Friday, accusing the broadcaster of playing loose with the facts after it aired audio of McDonald's CEO John Betts calling the temporary foreign worker program controversy “bull****.”

And it's not like McDonalds pays it regular work force a living wage anyway which forces many people working there in the US to access public support which acts as a massive subsidy which is close to equal to the amount the company makes in "profit".

McDonald's Billion-Dollar Profit Is Awkwardly Close To The Amount It Costs Taxpayers Every Year

McDonald's announced Monday that it raked in $1.5 billion in profits in the third quarter, up 5 percent from last year.

The number is strikingly close to the $1.2 billion taxpayers are shelling out each year to help pay public assistance to the McDonald's workforce, according to a report released last week by the National Employment Law Project.

So, yup there is a lot of BS here.

How about a program that supports relocating Canadians to locations where there are shortages of labour even temporary, it seems like industry has been calling the shots on this issue and it's about the bottom line, not unemployment to them.

 

[Twila]

I think the aspect in most business models that will always f'over employees is the requirement for increased profit each and every year. Are there any companies that treat their employees like extended family out there any more? You could feel good about your employer and feel good about your loyalty knowing it will be reciprocated. THE boss knew your nake and your families or at least that you had a family. Business has become a unfriendly robotic entity.

 

[taxslave]

This isn't limited to McDonalds, I know a couple who have a Tims franchise in Alberta and they bring most of their workers over from the Philippines and require that they rent rooms in property they own. The program is so under-regulated that it makes problems like this inevitable.

There are areas where there are labour shortages due to people going for the higher paying jobs like in the oil fields or tar sands, but companies like McDonalds seem to be taking advantage of this to create a captive work force which does smack of slavery despite of what its CEO claims.

McDonald's Canada CEO John Betts Calls TFW Controversy ‘Bulls**t,' Then Aims At CBC



And it's not like McDonalds pays it regular work force a living wage anyway which forces many people working there in the US to access public support which acts as a massive subsidy which is close to equal to the amount the company makes in "profit".

McDonald's Billion-Dollar Profit Is Awkwardly Close To The Amount It Costs Taxpayers Every Year



So, yup there is a lot of BS here.

How about a program that supports relocating Canadians to locations where there are shortages of labour even temporary, it seems like industry has been calling the shots on this issue and it's about the bottom line, not unemployment to them.

Did you know that your link refers to the US, not Canada. Just more BS

 

[Nuggler]

Set the TFW free............send em home.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

If paying a canadian youth minimum wage means "if I could pay you less, I would"

Then bringing in immigrant workers to replace the canadian youth really shows us how useless our new gen of canadian youth are.

You are an idiot.

 

[Sal]

It's part of their full meal deal...first they make you addicted to their food...then they hire slaves...and then they take over the world. Soon we may have a new most supreme leader...

sounds about right...he's a clown

 

[Spade]

You are an idiot.

Understatement, RCS, does not become you.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Understatement, RCS, does not become you.

Sometimes you gotta tell it like it is.

 

[Scooby]

I think the most appealing thing for employers that seek this option is the prospect of the economically desperate in their rank and file. This would seem honorable if the motive was anything other than greed, but it is not, never will be.

 

[WLDB]

Are there any companies that treat their employees like extended family out there any more?

My first job was at a restaurant like that when I was in high school. They were great, the normal pay was minimum wage but there were bonuses now and then and they were flexible and treated me and many of the others there like family. Sadly they went out of business about two years ago. Those box stores and franchises are killing these types of places and have been for a long time now.

Then bringing in immigrant workers to replace the canadian youth really shows us how useless our new gen of canadian youth are.

TFWs are not immigrants. There is a major difference between the two.

They're just doing the jobs that Canadians refuse to do I suppose.

So they say. If thats true thats their problem. If they can't find Canadians to work for them they can either raise the pay to try to attract them or go out of business.

 

[Twila]

If paying a canadian youth minimum wage means "if I could pay you less, I would"

Then bringing in immigrant workers to replace the canadian youth really shows us how useless our new gen of canadian youth are.

Thats how they want you to see it. Could also be seens from a different perspective; that Canadian youth won't be treated like slaves, know their worth, while expecting (and rightly so) to be treated as human being not cattle.

 

[EagleSmack]

So they say. If thats true thats their problem. If they can't find Canadians to work for them they can either raise the pay to try to attract them or go out of business.

Well that is what they say. I do not believe it because more and more jobs are falling into that category with the owner pocketing the savings.

 

[Spade]

My first job was at a restaurant which served holidayers at a resort. I was paid $4.80 for an eight-hour shift. Needless to say, I was not a model employee at those wages.

 

[SLM]

My first job was at a restaurant which served holidayers at a resort. I was paid $4.80 for an eight-hour shift. Needless to say, I was not a model employee at those wages.

And that first job was in what year?

 

[Twila]

The lastest story to surface...



Foreign worker reports death threats, coercion - British Columbia - CBC News

This poor guy was at the RCMP station when he received the death threat on his cellphone. They recorded it.

This has become quite a large problem and seems to have some very dark dimensions.

 

[Nuggler]

The lastest story to surface...



Foreign worker reports death threats, coercion - British Columbia - CBC News

This poor guy was at the RCMP station when he received the death threat on his cellphone. They recorded it.

This has become quite a large problem and seems to have some very dark dimensions.

You don't think he might have arranged for a friend to phone it in at a pre arranged time ?

 

[Twila]

You don't think he might have arranged for a friend to phone it in at a pre arranged time ?

oh, jeebs, didn't think of that... I guess it's possible.

 

[FiveParadox]

Temporary Foreign Workers program faces renewed calls for audit

The mismanagement of the Temporary Foreign Workers Program has been absolutely staggering. If Her Majesty’s Government is at all serious about fixing this program so that it works in the best interests of Canadians, and in the interests of these vulnerable workers, then they would exercise some actual leadership here. (Spoiler alert: The Conservatives have already demonstrated that they have no interest in fixing the program.)

The Conservatives, en bloc, voted against the following motion on April 30, 2014:

“That, in the opinion of the House, the Temporary Foreign Worker Program has been open to abuse resulting in the firing of qualified Canadian workers, lower wages and the exploitation of temporary foreign workers, and therefore the government should: (a) impose an immediate moratorium on the Stream for Lower-skilled Occupations, which includes fast-food, service and restaurant jobs; and (b) request an urgent audit of the whole program by the Auditor General.”

Luckily for the Government, they now have a second opportunity to demonstrate this “common-sense approach” that they keep pretending they use in decision-making. I encourage the Government to take a cue from the leadership of Mr. Justin Trudeau M.P. (Papineau), the Leader of the Liberal Party. The Liberals are calling for a number of immediate steps to be taken to ensure the integrity of the Temporary Foreign Workers Program:

• a full review of the program by the Auditor General;
• public disclosure of what jobs are issued through the program, and where;
• requiring employers to demonstrate that “every effort has been made” to recruit Canadian workers; and
• a stricter Labour Market Opinion approval process (required before jobs can be issued).

Unfortunately for the Government, it has had some difficulty giving Canadians any accurate numbers about the usage of the Temporary Foreign Workers Program. With no agreement between Human Resources and Skills Development Canada, Finance Canada, and Statistics Canada on where the numbers actually stand, the Government has even resorted to using statistics from websites such as Kijiji to determine jobs issued to temporary foreign workers (which, of course, has drawn criticism from the opposition parties, and quite appropriately so). Maybe if Statistics Canada hadn’t been neutered by the Government with the abolition of the long-form census, the Government would be able to develop informed and evidence-based public policy (shocking, I know).

The Government’s continued opposition to an audit of the program — even as the Government, itself, acknowledges that there are real and potential abuses of the program throughout the country — is both absurd, and a completely irresponsible position from the perspective of sound public policy development.

Source: Temporary Foreign Workers program faces renewed calls for audit (CBC)

 

[Zipperfish]

If that is truly what's happening, then charges should be laid and HEFTY fines allocated to these employers and the foreign workers need to go back home so that Canadians can get these jobs. IF that's in fact what's happening.


However, my understanding is that getting these workers here by jumping through the red tape and the cost is quite high, i.e. the whole process is quite onerous. The companies are also responsible for paying their way here and for accommodations (not the employee). Bottom line is that it is far cheaper for companies to hire Canadians then foreign workers so something is amiss here.


Hmmmm - could it be the unions? Nah, say its not so!


Some companies end up paying their foreign workers MORE than what they would a Canadian. Yep, something is amiss fer sure!!


JMHO

The unions? Don't see how you arrived at that at all. McDonalds isn't union. Very little of the food service industry is. Neither are the banks. Those have been the two abusers that have drawn most of the headlines so far.