T-Bones: This song has atypical versing. So, we are like the croaking toads?
"Churchianity"
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As far as Bible quotations go, the Golden Rule makes sense to me, most of the rest of it is highly suspect and should never be quoted to prove a point. Those who incessantly quote the Bible are generally just fanatics.
Motar! I have just been studying this very topic. Do you find the seven churches also represent different states individual Christians may encounter. Period of neither hot or cold? etc...
I am very encouraged to hear that, cj. I know of others (from other congregations) who are also prompted to look into Revelation's content now. I have a friend who is currently touring and posting photos of the ruins of Ephesus in Turkey on FB. The Spirit moves the body of Christ in unison : )
I would agree with the individual Christian states experience with the exception of the Laodicean (apostate) period. This church receives only condemning commentary from Christ.
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I was born into churchianity. I chose Christianity, subsequent to Christ's choosing me.
The following link is a collection of Bible verses concerning lukewarm Christianity, cj. Hope this helps. What Does the Bible Say About Lukewarm Christians?
Means they ain't outright fanatics, don't dedicate every waking moment to worshiping and spreading the good news - if you don't believe as me youz gonna burn baby!
So many degrees of "Christian" So many vying for the title of best Christian.
Has anyone approached the topic of demons yet? I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinion on them. Whether they believe in them or not.
I spoke to a Jehova Witness a few months back, who believed that the bad things of this current era were because of the presence of demons.
"I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked." (Revelation 3:15-17 NIV)
The message above is addressed to a congregation in Laodicea during the early church period. The city of Laodicea was located in a valley between mountains and hot springs. The city imported water from these two locations for its own use. By the time the ice cold snow water from the mountains or the steaming hot spring water from the springs reached Laodicea, they were both lukewarm.
A lukewarm (Christian) is spiritually bereft, shying away from the grace and truth of Christ, "having a form of godliness but denying its power." (2 Timothy 3:5 NIV)
You could open a discussion thread concerning demons, Twila : )
In the text, Spade, lukewarm is rejected:
"So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth." (Revelation 3:16 NIV)
Twila, the lukewarm Christian is a person that is indifferent. They are not outspoken enemies of Christ. But, neither do they have a fervent faith. They should like to have the name Christian and float to heaven on a perfumed cloud. They imagine sitting in the pew, lighting the candle and abstaining from robbing the poor will do.
What you describe sounds like McGee's "churchianity" in the OP, cj. Cold describes an individual who is not a part of the team. Hot designates a contributing team player who is in the game. Lukewarm signifies one who wears a jersey and occupies a bench.
Cliffy, If I were a fanatic, I would have hopped a flight months ago and you would be looking at my face pressed against your window pane now.
Dare you to open the curtains.
Twila, it's anyone that doesn't think like CJ and Motar. Anyone that doesn't believe what they believe. I am a "luke warm Christian" as far as they are concerned, but then, there's people like PoliticalNick who consider me a Christian fanatic. Go figure eh.
If what you say is true, Spade, it is by God's design. Those contending with emotional/mental health issues need Christ too.
"On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick." (Matthew 9:12 NIV)
There are true believers in every people-group on earth.
“You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation." (Revelation 5:9 NIV)
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