Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine, Senior Government Official Admits

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....is still in part owned by Canadian Ukrainian descendants like myself.

Viterra has big bucks invested in Ukraine is that a bad thing?
That explains a lot.

Del Monte (and others) had big bucks invested in Latin America, how did that work out for the locals? Death squads got rid of 'troublemakers'. Forced off the land and into the cities where unemployment ran at about 60% and no welfare available. Soup kitchens if you were lucky.

http://beforeitsnews.com/military/2...pen-by-obamas-weakening-policies-2459924.html
WASHINGTON – As the world remains riveted on Moscow’s annexation of the Crimean Peninsula, Russian President Vladimir Putin is shifting gears to Latin America.

As first outlined by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu last February, Putin now plans to keep the United States off-balance as Moscow sets up actual military bases and massive arms sales in the Latin American region.

Moscow’s plan follows a recent announcement by Iran to have its warships patrol in waters off the U.S. coast.

Russia and Iran have stated their increased presence is also in response to U.S. military deployments near their countries, including the eastward expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization up to Russia’s borders.

The establishment of permanent Russian bases and a major Russian presence in the Western Hemisphere will challenge U.S. policies and threatens to diminish Washington’s influence in the region. At the same time, it will give Moscow a basis to stage offensive weapons in the Western Hemisphere, placing another formidable challenge to U.S. homeland defenses from potential missile threats.

WND previously has pointed out that the U.S. lacks adequate missile defenses in the Gulf of Mexico from any missile attack from the south. In addition, WND has reported Russia has begun deploying missile-bearing nuclear submarines in the Southern Hemisphere, further accentuating that threat.

Experts such as former Strategic Defense Initiative Director Ambassador Henry Cooper have argued because of this threat, the U.S. needs to deploy existing Aegis missile defense systems in the southern portion of the U.S.
 

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OK, so the U.S. is in the EU and Ukraine is in Latin America.

Any more reports from MHzWorld?
????? I get the part that the US opens it trap about what should be happening in some parts of Europe, Russia is already in South America in that Venezuela has S-300 systems in place already to protect against Us actions coming from their puppet state, Columbia.
 

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I understand you're paranoid. Having heard too many politicians con the gullible and seen as many taunt they who wish to see fire, I prefer to see it out rather than jump the gun and get the worst - because it never comes on your terms. What has Chamberlain got to do with Crimea? Hitler was never asked to intervene anywhere.

Hate to disapoint you, Colp, but we're both too old to get called up to go shooting anyone. The chance may arise if Harper keeps beaking off over his head.
 
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Colombia.
Didn't you know they are about the last South American country to still have American trained death squads?

Russia may sell S-300 missiles to Venezuela, instead of Iran - analyst | Defense | RIA Novosti

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Russia's S-300 air defense systems, which Moscow refused to deliver to Iran following a new round of UN sanctions against the Islamic Republic, could be sold to Venezuela instead, a Russian arms trade expert said on Friday.
Russia signed a deal to deliver five battalions of S-300PMU-1 air defense systems to Iran in 2007 but banned the sale in September, saying the systems, along with a number of other weapons, were covered by the fourth round of sanctions imposed by the UN Security Council against Iran over its nuclear program in June.
"Russia is looking for a buyer of five battalions of S-300PMU-1 air defense systems ordered by Iran, which are worth $800 million, and Venezuela could become such a buyer," said Igor Korotchenko, head of a Moscow-based think tank on the international arms trade.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who is currently on a visit to Russia, earlier said his country was interested in buying different types of Russian-made air defense systems to create a multilayered air defense network.
Venezuela has already purchased 12 Tor-M1 air defense systems, a number of ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns and Igla-S portable short-range air defense systems from Russia.
The S-300PMU-1 (SA-20 Gargoyle) is an extended range version of S-300PMU with a limited anti-ballistic missile capability.

yeah nobody could see that coming
How very Sovietish of them. Time to fire up the captured war ships to supplement the power grid.
 

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I understand you're paranoid. Having heard too many politicians con the gullible and seen as many taunt they who wish to see fire, I prefer to see it out rather than jump the gun and get the worst - because it never comes on your terms. What has Chamberlain got to do with Crimea? Hitler was never asked to intervene anywhere.

Hate to disapoint you, Colp, but we're both too old to get called up to go shooting anyone. The chance may arise if Harper keeps beaking off over his head.


Read some history.

Start with 1938 and the Sudetenland.
 

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Again we have more lies being told as if they were true . As I have said before Russia is a third world country and read my post about it . USA has helped Russia many times and that also has been forgotten or should I say that it was missed to make the lie even better. Remember Lend to Lease Aid ? How about in 1991-92 all I will say is read about it ....the actual story not the comment section with 1 liners.
Point is that Russia is not the power some of you believe and it is not fair or just or democratic in short they are not like us so comparing them with our values does not work as they do not fit that picture.
Now Ukraine ,as I have said before many times , has seen and lived the way Russia does and wants nothing to do with it. Now as much as it entertains me to read some of the posts about how good Russia is the reality is very different and again to really understand it , talk to people who live there or visit Russia , which is not Moscow or St. Petersburg . Many have immigrated here to Canada , now why would that be and look at the numbers from immigration Canada. So enough of the BS and again please stop the lies and use REAL facts not the ones you cherry pick through to help your ego.
 

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... use REAL facts not the ones you cherry pick through to help your ego.
97% of the citizens voted to ditch Kiev, more than 80% of the Ukrainian military in Crimea have decided to stay and wear Russian uniforms and others opted out of the military to become Russian citizens living in Crimea. Deal with it and accept it as that is what tose people wanted rather than being under the NATO/IMF thumb. That is their choice so rather than bellyache about it learn to live with it. You better be more concerned that more of the Ukraine doesn't vote to become Russian property also. I'm sure your policy would allow them to be shot or starved as traitors. Just sayin ......
 

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97% of the citizens voted to ditch Kiev, more than 80% of the Ukrainian military in Crimea have decided to stay and wear Russian uniforms and others opted out of the military to become Russian citizens living in Crimea. Deal with it and accept it as that is what tose people wanted rather than being under the NATO/IMF thumb. That is their choice so rather than bellyache about it learn to live with it. You better be more concerned that more of the Ukraine doesn't vote to become Russian property also. I'm sure your policy would allow them to be shot or starved as traitors. Just sayin ......
You seem to have a problem with the words invasion and freedom ....please check into that.
 

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Invasion, what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Freedom, what happened in Crimea.

The difference is the people in the area got to choose what events they were exposed to. You don't get to decide what happens in Iraq or Afghanistan or Crimea.
 

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Invasion, what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Freedom, what happened in Crimea.

The difference is the people in the area got to choose what events they were exposed to. You don't get to decide what happens in Iraq or Afghanistan or Crimea.
I am glad you have identified your problem area's ...please read to correct your misunderstanding of the issues.
 

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I am glad you have identified your problem area's ...please read to correct your misunderstanding of the issues.
Is this better?

The difference is the people in the area got to choose what events they were exposed to. You don't get to decide what happens in Iraq or Afghanistan or Crimea.

Freedom, what happened in Crimea.

Invasion, what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq.
 

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Read some history.

Start with 1938 and the Sudetenland.

I have probably studied as much history as you - even with you being a former history teacher and all. Some folks learn from it. Others expect it to repeat. Did you ever stop to think those troops are in place as a threat to Ukrainian militants who'd like to march back in and spank Crimea for shunning them? You have to step out of your jilted Yank headspace if you really want to be a historian.

It seems to me, Crimea doesn't want to be stuck in politically-correct neutral or mired in European debt