Russia Prepared To Fight War Over Ukraine, Senior Government Official Admits

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Some of these things are not the same but we can lump them together if some
want to do that.

Tibet how could the west mount an effective fighting force the way things were at
the time. Don't forget history is marked by time lines and the limits of technology
In the Eastern Block countries in the days of the Iron Curtain there is no way in hell
a fighting force would have been able to secure the area and the world knew it.
Hungary was a case of where there was a civil war and the 'Russians entered to
preserve their puppet government. Again in 56 a fight was not likely to produce a
positive outcome and the bomb was a real threat at the time. It was the first time
even America was gripped with fear. Then the country went back to its positive
mind set. Again 911 produced the fear mindset only this time the nation never go
past its trauma and all the things that are happening are fed and preyed on by fear
Blame Obama all you want it started with Bush and it will keep going long after Obama
is gone.Ukraine is fighting a civil war and the battle should be allowed to play out
 

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"Delivering a blunt warning to Moscow, President Barack Obama expressed deep concern Friday over reported military activity inside Ukraine by Russia and warned "there will be costs" for any intervention." -- AP
Oh they are shaking in their boots [with laughter] in Moscow tonight. Can't somebody show up to work at the White House and tell this Jello-spined juggalo that his warning and threats just aren't making it? I mean really. This tough guy spiel is just an embarrassment:
"The Obama administration is evaluating whether President Barack Obama will go forward with plans to attend an international summit in Russia this summer amid reports of Russian intervention in Ukraine. A senior administration official says it's hard to see how Obama and European leaders would attend the G-8 summit in Sochi, which is scheduled for June. "​
So let me get this straight. The "penalty" for Russia if it keeps its hold on the Ukraine is that it doesn't get to waste precious summer days in June in the presence of this cowardly little narcissist and his entourage of fluffers and fellators? Well, yes, that would certainly make any leader of Russia give up the security of his fleet's access to the Crimea, the Black Sea, and from there into the Mediterranean. Let's not forget that Russia lost the Crimean War in the middle of the 19th Century [not that long ago in the Russian mind] which took about half a million lives on all sides. In that war, most of the fighting took place for control of the Black Sea, with land battles on the Crimean peninsula in southern Russia. Deja vu all over again? Why not? That's the history of Russia writ large. Simply put, if Russia cannot maintain control of the Crimea and Sevastopol it cannot maintain the Black Sea Fleet.
The Black Sea Fleet is considered to have been founded by Prince Potemkin on May 13, 1783, together with its principal base, the city of Sevastopol. Formerly commanded by such legendary admirals as Dmitriy Senyavin and Pavel Nakhimov, it is a fleet of enormous historical and political importance for Russia.​
The Black Sea Fleet enables Russia to control and dominate its close in "backyard" of Georgia as well as have access to the Mediterranean and, hence, the Middle East and Suez. Without the Crimea and Sevastapol, Russia ceases to be a nation with global reach. This is something Putin will not do. Ever. This is one of those annoying strategic situations in which trying to force Russia to step back can easily become a trigger for thermonuclear war. And Russia is still in the strategic nuke business. Instead of understanding how history lives in the present and shapes the future, this pig-ignorant "president" doesn't have a foreign policy, all he has is a series of poses and postures; none of which are all that butch.
Indeed, it would seem that the only group on the planet that are afraid of this putz are D.C. Republicans. And I'm not too sure about them any longer.

"Oh yeah? You and what army, President Poofter?" @ AMERICAN DIGEST

Also: Anonymous operations expose Ukrainian Bandera nazis
 

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Revealed: The forgotten treaty which could drag US and UK into WAR with Russia if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine

Treaty would mean 'British war with Russia' if Putin's troops intervene in Ukraine | Mail Online



Sir Tony Brenton, who served as British Ambassador to Russia from 2004 to 2008, said that war could be an option 'if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding.' The Budapest Memorandum was signed in 1994 by Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma - the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine. It promises to protect Ukraine's borders, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.

 
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Britain at war with Russia in the Crimea. It sounds like 1854 all over again. It's a pity we can't suicidally charge at the Russians again with the Light Brigade, as it was disbanded in 2007.

 

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Likely be settled by a couple of mouthbreathing hoodie-wearing twentysomethings at a no-limit texas hold 'em final table.