I'm fine with collective bargaining. I think they should be able to negotiate stuff like pensions, settle grievances, etc. and as long as it neither interferes with their work or with any legal actions against them, I'm ok with it.
Should the RCMP be allowed to unionize?
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Meh. I make more outside of government than I did inside government. For clerks and stuff, you do better in government. As you move up the pay scale the advantage moves to the private sector. The pension is a big attractor, but eventually, it's not even worth it for that, especially since the work environment isn't great in government--too many managers. BC government has trouble hanging on to engineers. They are paying them like $60-70 Grand, but engineners are making $110K in Alberta for moderate experience.
How'd that work for the SS?
Within the chain of command. Or at least, that's how it should be.
You were in service, Goob. You know that the chain of command can work, especially when Sergeant-Major understands his job. Doesn't always work, but then again, neither do unions.
The reason that the school system has evolved and developed a private sector opportunity is because the public system was not delivering on results and were abusing their capacity to strike
How will a union solve harassment or abuse of authority?
As far as pay rates go - how about the age-old system that if it ain't enough, you (as an employee) leave and go to work across the street?
Let those who want to be in a union be in a union and those who don't want to be don't have to be.
Very well.
Sorry Walt, doesn't work that way.
If it is a union shop, then you must belong to said union and you must pay them the requisite club fees.
Fun, eh?
If it is a union shop, then you must belong to said union and you must pay them the requisite club fees.
Fun, eh?
Not at all surprised you admire the SS.
Negative, that's a closed shop. A union shop is one where you must be a union member to get hired in the first place.
Every Western country? Try "every country." Y'all taken a look at the East lately?
Not exactly a paradise of respect for human rights.
Sorry to interrupt your biases with some reality.
Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Once the RCs go union, that potential will apply on a practical basis
Which part was the reality? Where does this paradise for human rights exists? Finger pointing at the eastern imaginary enemies following your cereal box programming?
Give them collective bargaining based on cost of living and a pension system. They can't strike as they are essential services. It, municipalities and urban councils that pay to have them. Since the cost of living is cheaper by municipality they will be paid accordingly. Some municipalities will pay more, some less. It beats detachment closures and staff cuts for struggling municipalities.
I see that as a reasonable suggestion.
Pension related elements are tricky though, defined benefit vs defined contribution and who will manage the fund.
Unfortunately, lots of examples of mismanaged funds and then who is on the hook to top it up?
Tricky for all parties involved
No I didn't miss it I discounted it as inaccurate bias derived from comic books distributed by and for citizens of the self anointed bastion of human rights, Uncle Sham. And while we're at it I wonder why we continue to harp on about the SS while we ignore it's superlative successor state appendages such as the infamously brutaly deceptive and evil Mossad, the premier office of slime for the entire planet.
Canadian Union Pensions tend to invest back into Canada. They could create better options for the cops who burn out young. It would be better than becoming a low paid Commissionaire sitting in an office building.
Yep, discounting what you don't want to see is the mark of a fanatic, all right.
German efficiency. For all their attempts, and increasing tech capabilities, nobody has ever quite matched the kill rate of the Nazis.
Fee that are tax credits and fees that'll get you $5 an hour for pensions. Shi*tty huh?
I have not stated my opinion as to for or against a union. I do believe in such an organization that abuse is rampant with little to no recourse for the Officer.
In a Union the abuses against females wouldn't exist and the old boys club that ignores the abuses goes bye bye.. There is no recourse for any abuses in a Union. If you're punted from the Union you're punted from being in the RCMP.