Coca-Cola Infuriates the Right

L Gilbert

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Let us deal with a few things here first no the Greeks are not predominantly white they
are Olive Skinned people.
Green or black?



French Creoles | Black & White mix yummy
lol Adriana Francesca Lima was born on June 12, 1981 in Salvador, Bahia, Brazil and is of African, native South American, and Swiss descent. How'd you get French Creole outta that?
 

Cliffy

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What happened to the middle class/working class and their values/culture? This is not just a matter of demographics.
The 1% took all their money by crashing the econmomy and buying up all their wealth for pennies on the dollar. Has nothing to do with paternalism and everything to do with money and power. Their are hording all the wealth of the US and convincing people to think it has to do with multiculturalism, liberalism and lefty politics and the right is eating it up like barf from a drunk.
 

damngrumpy

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I have many friends from many different backgrounds and cultures I am also sick
to death of changing the basic laws to accommodate every single group One can
have friends from any group and one can still have the view that everything does
not have to change. Having said that some things should change nothing is static.
Basic precepts of law should remain the same Here for example in Ontario they
were talking about sharia law that is the kind of change I am talking about.
Multiculturalism as a concept is fine as long as people are sharing cultures and
understanding each other when they start with changing actual articles in law that
is another matter.
Those two positions are compatible in my opinion. If you want to live here we have
laws and rules of the society. Some are going to change but the basic precepts of
law should remain the same for all with no special sidebars for anyone white, black
brown or other wise. That would include religion including the Christians, Jews and
Muslims and it should all start with paying taxes on religion period they make money
they pay tax like you and I.
 

BaalsTears

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The 1% took all their money by crashing the econmomy and buying up all their wealth for pennies on the dollar. Has nothing to do with paternalism and everything to do with money and power. Their are hording all the wealth of the US and convincing people to think it has to do with multiculturalism, liberalism and lefty politics and the right is eating it up like barf from a drunk.

You make a lot of points. Everything is connected. There is a duality in all things. It's written into the fabric of universe and the nature of each human. Leftists and rightists each see part of the totality of reality and assume their understanding is complete when it is partial.

Leftists are just as much corporatists as are rightists. Look at Al Gore, Warren, Buffet, George Soros and a host of others who say one thing and live in an entirely different manner. Most wealthy people in California are leftists who live in gated communities, send their kids to private schools, and who's only contact with Latinos is as patrons. There just aren't that many wealthy rightists in California. Perhaps elsewhere your observations hold true, but not here.

What is true in California is that the high tax, high regulation, poor public school environment is producing a growing class of poor dependent people and a dying middle class. California is becoming like Latin America in terms of the class structure...rich and poor. And California has been run by leftists for a long time now.

The rich in California are in a political coalition with the dependent poor at the expense of the middle class. Rich environmentalists are keeping the dependent folks poor by preventing the economic development necessary for the creation of good paying jobs. The dependence of the poor on handouts is pure paternalism.

You should distinguish between the Chamber of Commerce right and middle class conservatives/libertarians. The Chamber of Commerce type rightists go along with the statism favored by the left. They aren't the enemies of the left. They will do business with leftists.

Middle class conservatives and libertarians are long past the point of frustration or being the subjects of propaganda. They are enraged. Their hearts are filled with fury. The outlier element of this group wants blood. Nothing short of blood will suffice. Leftists and Chamber of Commerce types just don't realize how much the middle class conservative/libertarian group hates them. This is a dangerous time in America.

I have many friends from many different backgrounds and cultures I am also sick
to death of changing the basic laws to accommodate every single group One can
have friends from any group and one can still have the view that everything does
not have to change. Having said that some things should change nothing is static.
Basic precepts of law should remain the same Here for example in Ontario they
were talking about sharia law that is the kind of change I am talking about.
Multiculturalism as a concept is fine as long as people are sharing cultures and
understanding each other when they start with changing actual articles in law that
is another matter.
Those two positions are compatible in my opinion. If you want to live here we have
laws and rules of the society. Some are going to change but the basic precepts of
law should remain the same for all with no special sidebars for anyone white, black
brown or other wise. That would include religion including the Christians, Jews and
Muslims and it should all start with paying taxes on religion period they make money
they pay tax like you and I.

Multiculturalism and national unity are incompatible. Multiculturalism depends on diversity. Unity depends on assimilation. Diversity and assimilation are opposites that can't coexist. In California assimilation is dead. The same is becoming true throughout America. The result is tribalism.

Canada has multiculturalism without unity except in a very superficial sense. Canadians like being nice. That's not enough to hold a country together when it experiences a prolonged period of suffering and tragedy.
 

karrie

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Ask Tecumshsbones if Shawnee culture still exists in a living and vibrant form. Only Shawnee genes still exist combined with others to create something new.

.... They have been transformed. In the process the Americans have become a degraded people. They no longer even adhere to their former creed. They are lost.

The American people were immigrants who came in and replaced the culture before them. Now immigrants are coming in and replacing their culture, just as history shows happens to virtually every culture in existence. Nothing stays the same. That's the nature of humanity.

That's not what I was talking about..

Both my ex-wives are Hispanic.. there are more and more mixed marriages and mixed children.. soon we will all be a dark beige.

as a freckled whitie who's had melanoma, I applaud this.

How does multiculturalism produce national unity?

I've had great neighbours from just about every race and religion. I don't see how multiculturalism is a problem unless you're scared of it and only want to associate with people like yourself.
 

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The American people were immigrants who came in and replaced the culture before them. Now immigrants are coming in and replacing their culture, just as history shows happens to virtually every culture in existence. Nothing stays the same. That's the nature of humanity.

You are referring to conquest of one people by another. That is not what is happening. You don't seem to have an answer to what unifies multicultural peoples into a coherent nation and culture do you?



[QUOTE}as a freckled whitie who's had melanoma, I applaud this. [/QUOTE}

Another abstraction devoid of experience.



I've had great neighbours from just about every race and religion. I don't see how multiculturalism is a problem unless you're scared of it and only want to associate with people like yourself.

My family is multi-racial and multi-religious. There is more diversity in my family that I suspect exists in your whole world. But that isn't the issue.

HOW CAN MULTICULTURALISM PRODUCE NATIONAL UNITY? It hasn't produced national unity in Canada.
 

Cliffy

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HOW CAN MULTICULTURALISM PRODUCE NATIONAL UNITY? It hasn't produced national unity in Canada.
Maybe the problem is not with multiculturalism but with nations. Humans have been tribal for a million years or more and trying to live in artificially large societies has never really worked for us. We become slaves to societies ruled by the rich and who get rich by waging war on other countries and con their young people to go out and kill and die so the rich can get richer. At least in tribal societies there was a more cooperative effort, but with societies people are just slaves and fodder for the machine.

I really don't think we are supposed to live at such close quarters with so many people. If our DNA is a blueprint of our evolutionary history, then living the way we do is a very recent development and humans have not adjusted to it yet. People are suffering from crowded rat syndrome and the tensions are palpable. I am surprised that there is not more mass killings, murders and serious crime. I'm even more surprised that people's heads don't just explode from all the pressure they have to live under in this society.
 

karrie

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You are referring to conquest of one people by another. That is not what is happening. You don't seem to have an answer to what unifies multicultural peoples into a coherent nation and culture do you?

no i am not merely referring to conquering. America was built by people who threw away what they knew, to travel to a new country, across the world, to start over. It was built upon culture clashes. Brits and French, whites and natives, slave rebellions, wars overseas, and immigrants battling immigrants for superiority. It's all laced into the history of the US. So the newest of the clashes is taking place, so what? It's not new, it's not unique. It's perfectly American.

[QUOTE}as a freckled whitie who's had melanoma, I applaud this. [/QUOTE}

Another abstraction devoid of experience.
Or, a joke about melanin based off of very real, painful experience. But, you know, whoosh.





My family is multi-racial and multi-religious. There is more diversity in my family that I suspect exists in your whole world. But that isn't the issue.

HOW CAN MULTICULTURALISM PRODUCE NATIONAL UNITY? It hasn't produced national unity in Canada.

Multiculturalism can't produce national unity anymore than it can break it. Growing up, we lived side by side, happy and proud, regardless of our differences. We were all simply Canadian. We had 5 different churches, and had 4 cultural centres, in a town of only 2000 people. Bigger centres had even more churches and cultural centres, as you could expect.
 

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American Football. Is that the sport which intermittently breaks out between long periods of tv adverts and pop concerts?
 

pgs

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Eaglesmack you are wrong, my city is doing just fine. I have a lot of friends
that really are not white at all, Indo Canadians, Chinese and some whites
as well. I am not all that Christian either as I see religion as a business more
than a faith these days.
Color has never been an issue save for the radical Muslims moderates are
fine. Multiculturalism works sparing but hey I can get along with anyone.
The true essence of multiculturalism is not working as the groups are fighting
over who gets the top billing on traditions instead of sharing them that is the
problem. Canada has dealt much better with the change than most I think
Yup those Indo Canadians are doing a great job ruining the orchard business .
Not all that many Chinese in Kelowna lots of Japanese though , can't you tell the difference Grumpy ?
Mostly Kelowna is still a white Christian community .
 

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i have many friends from many different backgrounds and cultures i am also sick
to death of changing the basic laws to accommodate every single group one can
have friends from any group and one can still have the view that everything does
not have to change. .


another thing, we need to change immigration law to reflect our goals a bit. We should
allow people in and perhaps even first family (mother, father, and children) only not the
extended family. All extended family should come on merit not reunification.
Those who lie on forms or use fraudulent methods should be deported of discovery no
appeals just gone. Those who come should be on a ten year probation citizenship
and if they commit a crime deport them. Gang participants deportation regardless of age.


nimby
 

pgs

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American Football. Is that the sport which intermittently breaks out between long periods of tv adverts and pop concerts?
No that would be Nascar .
American football is a great game compared to the cry ball the rest of the world plays .
Great we have world cup up coming so we get to watch players from the world over withering on the ground in extreme pain seconds before running the length of the field .
 

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Ask Tecumshsbones if Shawnee culture still exists in a living and vibrant form. Only Shawnee genes still exist combined with others to create something new. Many Indians tried to accommodate the whites by adopting their ways and Christianity. In the process they lost their identity and became shadows of their former selves.
Partly true. But our cultures also evolved, integrated in some ways, and remained different in others. I grant your point that things are vastly different from what they were, but it's an overstatement to say that Shawnee culture (or other Indian cultures) are dead just because it's not what it was in 1607.

Cultures can fuse to form new cultures. However, that's not happening in California, except for the creation of latin gangbanger culture. That's hardly a model that should be encouraged or accepted.
Of course it's happening in California. The Silicon Valley culture and the resurgence of San Francisco are just two examples of new, non-gangbanger cultures. You're just upset because it's not American Graffiti. The amusing part is that the American Graffiti culture of the 50s was new and unlike previous culture. And just as many terrified, surly grouches screamed that America was going to the dogs.
 

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No that would be Nascar .
American football is a great game compared to the cry ball the rest of the world plays .
Great we have world cup up coming so we get to watch players from the world over withering on the ground in extreme pain seconds before running the length of the field .


 

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People experiencing the death of their culture, and its replacement by other cultures shouldn't be expected to welcome the end of their world.

Platonic and Neo-Platonic philosophers didn't welcome the end of the Academy of Athens by zealous Christians. It symbolized the end of their world.
What culture? Yogurt?
 

Blackleaf

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American football is a great game compared to the cry ball the rest of the world plays .


It didn't look so great to me on Sunday night. The most tedious game on planet Earth. So boring they need a pop concert to liven things up.

What are the stats? I think it's something like an average of 11 minutes of actual gameplay and 100 minutes of TV commercials in three hours of the average NFL match.

11 minutes of actual gameplay, and you are trying to telling me that it's an exciting sport?


Great we have world cup up coming so we get to watch players from the world over withering on the ground in extreme pain seconds before running the length of the field
You can actually watch actual sport taking place during football matches. Watching an NFL "game" is mainly just watching laxative commercials and groups of men in Kevlar body armour standing around twiddling their thumbs. And even the 11 minutes of actual gameplay is boring, entailing a player catching the ball and then running with it for three yards.

Sporting excitement there isn't.
 
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Blackleaf

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Professional sports are about advertising. I'll watch Jr A hockey and high school football for action


Professional sports (outside the USA) are all about the sporting action, not the laxative commercials. If I'm watching the Champions League Final I'm watching to watch the likes of Messi, Van Persie, Robben, Ribery, Van Persie, Rooney etc working their magic in a sporting cathedral. I'm not tuning it to watch the half time adverts.


Although, with a tedious sport like American Football I suppose the adverts are more exciting.
 

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Professional sports (outside the USA) are all about the sporting action, not the laxative commercials. If I'm watching the Champions League Final I'm watching to watch the likes of Messi, Van Persie, Robben, Ribery, Van Persie, Rooney etc working their magic in a sporting cathedral. I'm not tuning it to watch the half time adverts.


Although, with a tedious sport like American Football I suppose the adverts are more exciting.
Watch whatever you want. Here in the Great White North, if you want to watch TV "sport" you look at what's on telly. If you want to watch sport, you go to the game....
 

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In much of the world, "sports" means going out, running around, and getting your heart rate up.

In Europe and North America, "sports" means sitting on the couch eating fatty snacks and drinking beer.

And by the way, Blackloaf, the only decent footballer England ever had was a drunk, a druggie, a woman beater, and Irish.

But he was the Best.