Funeral for Officer Sgt Ryan Russell - Some people are just plain Ignorant

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Bid to stop freedom for Sgt. Ryan Russell's killer
By Michele Mandel ,Toronto Sun
First posted: Saturday, January 11, 2014 07:30 PM EST | Updated: Saturday, January 11, 2014 08:23 PM EST
TORONTO - Just weeks after his conviction last spring, cop killer Richard Kachkar was already eligible for escorted passes into the community — when even his own lawyer hadn’t asked for such lenient privileges.


Sunday marks three years since the homeless man suffering a psychotic break stole an idling snowplow and ran down Sgt. Ryan Russell during a bizarre rampage up and down Avenue Rd.


Last March, a jury found Kachkar, 47, not criminally responsible for the young father’s death.


For Russell’s widow, Christine, it was hard enough to accept that her husband’s killer would not be doing jail time but would go instead to a psychiatric hospital determined by the Ontario Review Board. What was even more infuriating was that the ORB ignored a joint submission by the defence and Crown and actually granted Kachkar even more freedom than they’d requested.


Thankfully, the Crown heads to the Ontario Court of Appeal on Jan. 20 to get those community passes revoked. “The (Ontario Review) Board effectively abdicated its duty to provide for the safety of the public by basing its decision on a belief, rather than on any evidence, that community passes would not put the public at risk.”


At his ORB hearing last April, the panel heard heartwrenching victim impact statements from Russell’s family. They also heard that both lawyers for Kachkar and the attorney general agreed he should be held in medium security at Ontario Shores Centre for Mental Health Sciences and granted escorted visits on the hospital’s grounds.


But when it came back with its ruling, the board took everyone by surprise when it went further and also gave Kachkar escorted passes into Whitby, despite finding that he remains a “significant threat to the safety of the public.”


Russell’s widow Christine called the ORB decision “a slap in the face.”


“Neither Mr. Kachkar nor his counsel asked that he be allowed off the hospital grounds and into the community,” she said in a written statement after the April decision. “This is completely unacceptable.”


In its factum filed with the appeal court, the Crown argues that the “unreasonable” decision places the public at risk. The five-member panel should have given notice that they were contemplating the unusual step of going beyond the joint recommendation. If they’d known, they would have called evidence as to why it wasn’t safe to give Kachkar more freedom.


“The last time the Respondent enjoyed access to the community was in early January 2011,” the Crown notes in its court filing. “He entered the streets of Toronto, stole a snowplow, caused numerous collisions and threatened the safety of motorists and pedestrians alike. The police were called to stop him. One officer was tragically killed and another’s safety was endangered in the process.”


At the hearing, Dr. Philip Klassen testified that Kachkar’s mental illness wasn’t well understood especially since he hadn’t begun treatment. And still the ORB decided to grant him community access?


“From a risk management perspective, the Board was confronted with many uncertainties,” argues the Crown. “In the face of these uncertainties, it was not reasonable for the Board, without hearing submissions or evidence pertaining to the issue, to make provision for a return into the general community, where once again the police may be called upon to intervene.”


The Crown is asking that the ORB’s decision be overturned and a new hearing held where the issue of community passes can be “properly considered.”


In reply, the hospital contends the generous ruling should stand, that Kachkar’s prognosis is good, he doesn’t pose a high AWOL risk and hasn’t posed a problem during any of his 131 off ward privileges between July 9 and Oct. 25. His psychiatrist calls him a “highly co-operative, compliant and pleasant patient.”


Police union president Mike McCormack plans to be at the Court of Appeal next week, representing Russell’s colleagues as well as his widow, who will be out of the country.


“She wishes she could be there,” he told the Toronto Sun. “She supports the Crown appeal. It’s the right thing to do, and we’re hopeful the Crown will be successful.”


But this would only be a stop gap measure, of course.


Kachkar’s mental health status must be reviewed by the ORB every year — and the cop killer already seems to be on the fast track for release.
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shadowshiv

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Unfortunately, I'm not surprised at this. Justice is just a word when it comes to Canada.
 

karrie

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Exactly. One's political (or monetary) ideas should not trump the victims...ever.

What about one's medical ideas?

The legal precedent of 'not criminally responsible' isn't a political one, and it's not, contrary to Eagle's assertion, about rates of imprisonment.
 

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There is a problem here. I agree that some are disrespectful and perhaps a
little ignorant. It doesn't end there. The current society is hero worship crazy in
the worst way. We are looking for hero's we have TV networks soliciting
local hero's and we have a huge backlash. The police departments under siege
from angry citizens for indiscretions of all manner bring out the flags and the
band as it were for a funeral to distract from what has been going on.
For some reason our society and the Americans want to mourn the death of
everything and come out again and again for the anniversary of the event.
They tear up wrap themselves in the flag and engage in being supportive. Why?
Because in many cases we as a society don't want to discuss the societal ills
that created the problem in the first place. Guns and drugs and gangs and
a lack of good paying jobs as we sold out our childrens jobs off shore so we
could make more money for the pension funds and stockholder.
After sitting back and letting the companies and governments screw everything up
we expect the police to babysit the streets.
 

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You tell me. What is his current mental health status? I personally am not a shrink, and can't make assertions regarding his threat level. Others apparently can.

I think his mental health status is irrelevant. He stole a snow plow and killed someone with it on a rampage. He should be locked up for good.
 

BornRuff

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I think his mental health status is irrelevant. He stole a snow plow and killed someone with it on a rampage. He should be locked up for good.

Well, the fact is that the court of law disagreed with you. We can't use the mental health system to impose extrajudicial punishment on people.

He was found not criminally responsible and is now in a program that will provide him with treatment until he is deemed not to be a threat to society. If you want to understand what is happening right now, you need to view it within the context of the situation that he is currently in.
 

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Hmmm. So no legal recourse for the mentally ill ever, period? Or just this guy?

When they murder... none.

For your viewing pleasure...

Video: Dashboard video of Ryan Russell's snowplow death released by Toronto Police - The Globe and Mail

Well, the fact is that the court of law disagreed with you. We can't use the mental health system to impose extrajudicial punishment on people.

He was found not criminally responsible and is now in a program that will provide him with treatment until he is deemed not to be a threat to society. If you want to understand what is happening right now, you need to view it within the context of the situation that he is currently in.

Yup... that is a fact for sure.

Sorry kid...

 

EagleSmack

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Why would I want to watch that?

I guess you don't. It was not graphic but I understand why you wouldn't.

I'll summarize it...

Sgt Russell tails the stolen snow plow... the plow turns around and comes at Sgt. Russell... Sgt. Russell begins going in reverse... the stolen plow pursues the Sgt's patrol car... for some reason Sgt. Russell stops and gets out of his patrol car and you simply see the plow turn and and hit the patrol car down it's left side...

But hey... one less guy in jail.
 

karrie

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I don't need a summary, I know he hit and killed the cop, I read the articles. Is there something about the issue you think I'm missing?
 

BornRuff

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Yup... that is a fact for sure.

Sorry kid...


It seems kinda smarmy to roll out pictures of the guys kid. Honestly, how much better or worse off is his son going to be if the guys goes to jail vs a secure mental health facility, or based on what privileges the guy has while at the facility?
 

EagleSmack

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It seems kinda smarmy to roll out pictures of the guys kid. Honestly, how much better or worse off is his son going to be if the guys goes to jail vs a secure mental health facility, or based on what privileges the guy has while at the facility?

Well... I guess the other poster was right... victims and victim's rights.... pffft... whatever.

When it should be the victims that are important.

One would think... others... not so much.

What difference does it make.

I don't need a summary, I know he hit and killed the cop, I read the articles. Is there something about the issue you think I'm missing?

A lot but...