Ontario Liberals strike $4 Billion Deal with Cisco

[Trex]

The fact that anyone, anyone at all would support the re-election of the Lib's in Ontario is mindboggling.
The scale of incompetence and fiscal destruction that has been unleashed on Ontario's taxpayers is almost beyond calculating.
Wynne is nothing but an unelected placeholder who's sole job is to take the fall for the slow motion trainwreck of the Liberal Party.

The hard left wing Rabble-Babble thinks the Ontario Liberals are incompetent, so do the left wing newspaper editors of the Toronto Star, as do the centrist left wing editors of the Globe and Mail and CBC, and so do the centrist editors of the National Post as well as the right wing editors of the Sun franchise.
Warren Kinsella well known and powerful Liberal advisor, pundit and bagman thinks the Ontario Liberals are an utter disaster that need to be removed from power ASAP.
Andrea Horwath, leader of the Ontario NDP has stated that the Ontario public sector and it's unions are overpaid.....that's right a dipper leader saying some of the unions are overcompensated.

Lets skip over the billions frittered away by McGinty before he went under a rock and look at Wynne and her track record.
The Liberal Auditor General of Ontario has announced 4 full time jobs have been lost for every full time green energy job created by the Libs.
Ontario Power has announced a 40 percent increase in energy rates primarily to fund green energy expenditures.
Wynne just announced her latest plan is to increase business taxes, income taxes and slap a 10 cent a liter fuel surcharge on gas and diesel.

The union that runs Ontario Power is the highest paid union in North America.
It's average, that's average frontline worker makes $110,000 a year plus medical, dental and full ride pension.
Even the NDP party says they are vastly overpaid.
And Wynne signed off on that one.
Car plants closing, Caterpillar gone, Heinz bolting, Kellogs packing up shop.
When is it all going to stop?

And now Wynne wants to buy a few jobs from and American owned corporation for $110,000 a pop?
I would tell those guys to stick those routers and switches where the sun don't shine.

If I lived in Ontario (and I used to), I would consider voting Conservative, NDP, Independent, Green or any available Rhino party.
But I would absolutely never ever consider voting for the Liberal Party of Ontario as it exists today.
Who would is the question?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Who would is the question?

The same sheep who are swallowing that salty load of HST.

The same ones who are willing to take a 5% tax on gas to buy TO a transit system.

 

[petros]

I thought I heard 10%?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

5 0r 10% depends on the gag reflex.

 

[petros]

It's just another scam. I wonder if the poor will have to pay up front, save receipts and wait for rebates like BC?

 

[lone wolf]

Really sucks when the silverware's been hocked, the hydro's been sold off - but the budget was "balanced". Cons didn't do any better than the "incompetents"

 

[petros]

Death throws.

 

[Trex]

Really sucks when the silverware's been hocked, the hydro's been sold off - but the budget was "balanced". Cons didn't do any better than the "incompetents"

Now thats denial.
And I aint talkin no Egyptian rivers
Mindboggling
Seriously

 

[lone wolf]

Now thats denial.
And I aint talkin no Egyptian rivers
Mindboggling
Seriously

You read denial? English not your first language? Ontario's fooked. What's to deny?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Time for change.

 

[petros]

They took all your bills now they want your change.

 

[Trex]

You read denial? English not your first language? Ontario's fooked. What's to deny?

Where I read denial was in your post that seemed to be saying the old Provincial Conservatives were just as bad as the current Liberals.
I view that denial of the true horror and destruction this Liberal Party has caused.
If that was not your intention, my mistake.
One thing we agree on is that Ontario is now "fooked" as you say.
In fact I would suggest it has been dry "fooked" a few dozen times over.

The corrupt and shoddy B.C. NDP under Glenn Clark.
The scandal plagued and immoral B.C. Social Credit under Vander Zalm
The clueless and incompetent Alberta Conservatives under Stelmach.
The bumbling and useless Ontario NDP under Rae.
The cold and heartless Ontario Conservatives under Harris.

None of these governments come close to what the Ontario Liberals under McGinty/Wynne have done.
Ontario is really and truely in deep , deep trouble.
And that is going to affect all Canadians right across the nation.

 

[petros]

Hey, you missed the devastation of Saskatchewan under Divine.

 

[Trex]

Hey, you missed the devastation of Saskatchewan under Divine.

just a scratch

 

[petros]

Really?

 

[taxslave]

"cuz they need their vehicles to do their jobs and if their employers don't reimburse them for the expense incurred, they can claim it on their taxes. What's so hard about that?

Oh, and they can't "write-off" their clothing FYI




And they would be???? Please enlighten.

As far as I know, the only write-offs when it comes to clothing are VERY specialized clothing such as hazmat suits. Nothing else is a write-off. Uniforms for police, firefighters etc., are usually provided by the employer, so no write-off there. There MAY be a write-off for "under cover cops" but again, not if these guys are re-imbursed by their employer. Sorry, can't as a rule write off clothing.

It depends on how your contract is written. I've not paid attention to a lot of it for several years because it does not affect me. At one time s real-estate salesman could write off his suits if it was a condition of his contract that he wear a suit for work. Steel toed work boots are deductible. Using your vehicle for work is worth $.52/km. The business lunch write-offs have been severely curtailed now. Any travel expenses such as meals and hotel on the road are deductible.

 

[Trex]

"cuz they need their vehicles to do their jobs and if their employers don't reimburse them for the expense incurred, they can claim it on their taxes. What's so hard about that?

Oh, and they can't "write-off" their clothing FYI




And they would be???? Please enlighten.

As far as I know, the only write-offs when it comes to clothing are VERY specialized clothing such as hazmat suits. Nothing else is a write-off. Uniforms for police, firefighters etc., are usually provided by the employer, so no write-off there. There MAY be a write-off for "under cover cops" but again, not if these guys are re-imbursed by their employer. Sorry, can't as a rule write off clothing.

When I had my own little outfit I wrote of an office in my home.
Partial utilities and taxes.
Furniture, computers, printers and all office supplies.
My vehicle lease.
Vehicle maintenace.
I then charged milage out at between $1.50 and $1.75km charged back to however I was working for or back to my company.
I also charged out fuel to my company for "running around on company time"while at home.
All outerwear.
All safety gear.
Meals were either $75/day or receipts submitted to whom ever I was under contract to or back to my company.
All hotels and any and all incured travel expenses were submitted to whomever I was under contract to or back to my company.

Unlike others I have met and worked with I did not charge my company for or attempt to write off; yacht's, Harleys, quads,ski boats or international family vacations (submitted as a "sales trip").

BTW you should see what creative farmers with consulting companies can do.

 

[tay]

Do you have any clue at all what expense write offs are? Almost All workers get to write off some of their work cloths on income tax. Try thinking a little.

Maybe I don't have a clue as to what expense write offs are so proceed to enlighten me and while you are at it emphasize the line in the Income Tax Form everyone can use for their clothing.


Thanking you in advance for making me a better thinker...........

"cuz they need their vehicles to do their jobs and if their employers don't reimburse them for the expense incurred, they can claim it on their taxes. What's so hard about that?

Oh, and they can't "write-off" their clothing FYI




And they would be???? Please enlighten.

As far as I know, the only write-offs when it comes to clothing are VERY specialized clothing such as hazmat suits. Nothing else is a write-off. Uniforms for police, firefighters etc., are usually provided by the employer, so no write-off there. There MAY be a write-off for "under cover cops" but again, not if these guys are re-imbursed by their employer. Sorry, can't as a rule write off clothing.

So no other workers incur expenses getting to work or are you insinuating that their employers pay for such costs?


My brother who owns a very successful biz has his expensive 9 to 5 disguises written off as 'required costs'.


Oh, and read Trexs post...........

 

[55Mercury]

Time for change.

of course you know

this means war

War - Cisco Kid - YouTube

 

[SLM]

When I had my own little outfit I wrote of an office in my home.
Partial utilities and taxes.
Furniture, computers, printers and all office supplies.
My vehicle lease.
Vehicle maintenace.
I then charged milage out at between $1.50 and $1.75km charged back to however I was working for or back to my company.
I also charged out fuel to my company for "running around on company time"while at home.
All outerwear.
All safety gear.
Meals were either $75/day or receipts submitted to whom ever I was under contract to or back to my company.
All hotels and any and all incured travel expenses were submitted to whomever I was under contract to or back to my company.

Unlike others I have met and worked with I did not charge my company for or attempt to write off; yacht's, Harleys, quads,ski boats or international family vacations (submitted as a "sales trip").

BTW you should see what creative farmers with consulting companies can do.

Maybe I don't have a clue as to what expense write offs are so proceed to enlighten me and while you are at it emphasize the line in the Income Tax Form everyone can use for their clothing.


Thanking you in advance for making me a better thinker...........






So no other workers incur expenses getting to work or are you insinuating that their employers pay for such costs?


My brother who owns a very successful biz has his expensive 9 to 5 disguises written off as 'required costs'.


Oh, and read Trexs post...........

I was told a tale, from a reliable source, of a woman who, for whatever reason got it in her head that when she bought a new home, she could "write off" the cost of new window coverings. She told people, they told people, soon there was a circle of family and friends all doing the same thing. And they all thought it was right, when in reality they simply hadn't been caught. Don't know if they ever were to be honest.

Point is, there are some legitimate costs that can deducted on a tax return and then there are those that people just write off anyway. Unless they come up in a regular rotational audit, and no one really knows how those are selected, or they make a claim that is so outside the bounds of what would be determined to be reasonable, filing your tax return is on 'the honor system'.

So while your brother may be " writing off" the cost of his suits, probably under 'uniforms would be my guess, I would also guess in an audit if they asked for receipts it would be disallowed and they'd reassess.