Nelson Mandela dead at 95

Blackleaf

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Yep, he seems a little adamant in his hatred, but like Mandela, Christ had his detractors too!

I can't even believe you are comparing Jesus Christ to a thug like Mandela.

Within the next few years if I'm to believe it.

Even Christians don't know when it will occur.

Catholics believe that it will be a sudden, unexpected thing, like a flash of lightning; that He will not spend any time preaching or ministring; and that His appearance will take place just before the appearance of the Antichrist.

Protestants, including Anglicans, Lutherans and Methodists, believe that "He shall come again in glory to judge the living and the dead; and His kingdom shall have no end."

Protestants offer no predictions on the date of the Second Coming.
 

JLM

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What makes you think my opinion of Mandela will change anytime soon?


I think you've just dispelled that notion. To be honest I was completely unaware of what Mandela was like prior to 1962, BUT this 2013, the man could have changed OR people misread him prior to 1962, But I guess you were there (maybe resting up from your feats during WWII) and got a first hand view of him!
 

Walter

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BHO can honor Mandela's memory by requiring all US citizens over the age of 16 to always carry photo ID just as all SA citizens have to in Mandela's SA.
 

#juan

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Mandela was illegally imprisoned for twenty seven years and he never seemed to hate anyone. That is better than I could do.
 

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Does everyone agree that the South African blacks are a nice peaceful nation that would not hurt each other or be dishonest since he was said to have invented rubber necklaces and changed them?
Do any of you fools actually know anything about South Africa that did not come from the CBC or a left wing teacher? Pie in the sky idiots the lot of ya.
 

JLM

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BHO can honor Mandela's memory by requiring all US citizens over the age of 16 to always carry photo ID just as all SA citizens have to in Mandela's SA.


Be nice for a change, Walter!

I can't even believe you are comparing Jesus Christ to a thug like Mandela.



Even Christians don't know when it will occur.

Catholics believe that it will be a sudden, unexpected thing, like a flash of lightning; that He will not spend any time preaching or ministring; and that His appearance will take place just before the appearance of the Antichrist.

Protestants, including Anglicans, Lutherans and Methodists, believe that "He shall come again in glory to judge the living and the dead; and His kingdom shall have no end."

Protestants offer no predictions on the date of the Second Coming.


I've always thought that "the Second Coming" may be in the form of a Black Man, so I'm thinking he may be it.

Does everyone agree that the South African blacks are a nice peaceful nation that would not hurt each other or be dishonest since he was said to have invented rubber necklaces and changed them?
Do any of you fools actually know anything about South Africa that did not come from the CBC or a left wing teacher? Pie in the sky idiots the lot of ya.


Yeah, South Africa has it's share of arrogance but what country doesn't. Maybe they got it from the Dutch! -:)
 

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You only see a few 'Great Men' every century, maybe 2 or 3.. who capture the global imagination.. and you'd have to put Nelson Mandela in that small and distinguished league.

He sat at the centre of the reformation of the old world order following the fall of Colonial System that had ruled the world for 5 centuries to the end of WW2.. and articulated a vision of the true potential of a new era.

What i found most appealing of him was his undiminished hope.. after 27 years incarcerated on Robben Island.. and his great sense of humour.. which made such an appealing framework for his message. RIP, Nelson.
 
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JLM

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You only see a few 'Great Men' every century, maybe 2 or 3.. who capture global imagination.. and you'd have to put Nelson Mandella in that small and distinuished league.

He sat at the centre of the reformation following the fall of Colonial System that had ruled the world for 5 centuries to the end of WW2.. and articulated a vision of the true potential of a new era.

What i found most appealing of him was his undiminished hope.. after 27 years incarcerated on Robben Island.. and his great sense of humour.. which made such an appealing framework for his message. RIP, Nelson.


You bet, I'm not sure if Blackleaf saw all that. -:) (Too busy fighting the War)
 

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What i found most appealing of him was his undiminished hope.. after 27 years incarcerated on Robben Island.. and his great sense of humour.. which made such an appealing framework for his message. RIP, Nelson.


To me was his peaceful transition from Apartheid with the focus on reconciliation.
 

Sal

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Rest in Peace Mr. Mandela

Some interesting Canadian interactions with Mr. Mandela...

In his 1990 speech, Mr. Mandela paid tribute to the people of Canada for their involvement in the struggle to overthrow apartheid:

Canadian trade unions, churches, universities, human-rights and solidarity groups, and the International Defence and Aid Fund for South Africa had spent decades in the trenches. In particular, the Task Force on the Churches and Corporate Responsibility had weathered the ridicule of Canada’s business community and state officials in its battle against corporate involvement in apartheid South Africa.

He had also had come to thank Mr. Chrétien’s predecessor, Brian Mulroney, for his willingness to break with his allies, U.S. president Ronald Reagan and British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, over the question of South Africa. In 1985, Mr. Mulroney had made a deep impression in Africa by pledging at the United Nations to break economic and diplomatic relations if South Africa did not abandon apartheid. His battles with Mrs. Thatcher over Commonwealth sanctions against South Africa were legendary.


Mr. Mandela’s significance for Canada is clear. He stands as a testament to the dangers of knee-jerk prejudice and hazy understanding; proof positive that one person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter.


The lessons for today – now that the word “terrorist” is used indiscriminately and anti-terrorist legislation criminalizes many activities used in the battle against apartheid – are evident. Above all, the story of Canada and Mr. Mandela should alert us to the enduring importance of imagination, as well as precision, in Canadian foreign policy.

Nelson Mandela, the honorary Canadian - The Globe and Mail
 

JLM

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I wasn't a huge Maggie fan, but I had the good grace to keep my mouth shut when she passed.

Some people just have no class.
Maggie was O.K. in my books, she had bigger balls than George Bush. She didn't take crap.

Rest in Peace Mr. Mandela

Some interesting Canadian interactions with Mr. Mandela...

In his 1990 speech, Mr. Mandela paid tribute to the people of Canada for their involvement in the struggle to overthrow apartheid:

Canadian trade unions, churches, universities, human-rights and solidarity groups, and the International Defence and Aid Fund for South Africa had spent decades in the trenches. In particular, the Task Force on the Churches and Corporate Responsibility had weathered the ridicule of Canada’s business community and state officials in its battle against corporate involvement in apartheid South Africa.

He had also had come to thank Mr. Chrétien’s predecessor, Brian Mulroney, for his willingness to break with his allies, U.S. president Ronald Reagan and British prime minister Margaret Thatcher, over the question of South Africa. In 1985, Mr. Mulroney had made a deep impression in Africa by pledging at the United Nations to break economic and diplomatic relations if South Africa did not abandon apartheid. His battles with Mrs. Thatcher over Commonwealth sanctions against South Africa were legendary.


Mr. Mandela’s significance for Canada is clear. He stands as a testament to the dangers of knee-jerk prejudice and hazy understanding; proof positive that one person’s terrorist is another person’s freedom fighter.


The lessons for today – now that the word “terrorist” is used indiscriminately and anti-terrorist legislation criminalizes many activities used in the battle against apartheid – are evident. Above all, the story of Canada and Mr. Mandela should alert us to the enduring importance of imagination, as well as precision, in Canadian foreign policy.

Nelson Mandela, the honorary Canadian - The Globe and Mail


One thing I admire about Nelson Mandela, he could be nice without putting up with any sh*t.
 

Sal

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Maggie was O.K. in my books, she had bigger balls than George Bush. She didn't take crap.




One thing I admire about Nelson Mandela, he could be nice without putting up with any sh*t.
what I admire is that he knew he was equal even though he kept being told he was not...that takes a strong individual to overcome that type of hurdle, that type of brainwashing that type of violence done to the human spirit...also to fight for what he knew was right in spite of everything in his way
 

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Mandela was a terrorist who was on the US terrorist watch list until 2008 and wasn't fit to even lick Maggie's boots.

Yet he had been to the US a few times and met with Presidents. Not something that tends to happen with people on terrorist watch lists.

Maggie was O.K. in my books, she had bigger balls than George Bush. She didn't take crap.

She did it to the point of intransigence which is why she was kicked out.


It happens. Most western leaders have done things like that at one time or another.
 

Sal

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JLM

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Yet he had been to the US a few times and met with Presidents. Not something that tends to happen with people on terrorist watch lists.


Well, we all saw the effluence emanating from Blackleaf earlier on the detriment of the Canadian Soldier during W.W. II. That was my first clue as to his credibility and what he's spewing on Mandela hasn't improved it at all.