MADD With Power
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No they aren't. You've been saying they're already checking drivers anyways, so whats a little blow in a tube. If you swallow that load of government intrusion and stick that in your mouth, using the above argument, the next could be to get a DNA sample from the tube, or a swab at the same time.
It's exactly a situation of incremental creep, which has been eroding our right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures. As for the emails, well they're already parsing our communications under the banner of national security.
They are already allowed to randomly check us, and lean towards the window to get a sniff, that's far enough.
That really depends on the extent of the problem. I don't think we have a true picture of that yet. What we have is data that shows a level of impairment. As of yet, I haven't seen any data that lower levels of impairment are causing that big of a problem. The first step in solving any problem is to define the problem. (I know some people think that's bulls hit but really, it's just common sense.
so are you saying that until he kills someone it really isn't a problem, he should be okay drinking and driving?
What I'm saying is that, if people with a BAC of less than 1.0 aren't causing significant problems on the road, we shouldn't be spending so much resources trying to stop them. Let's first find out where the real problem is first. Most laws are overbearing and all inclusive simply because it's easier.
okay I can go with what you are saying to a degree, but most drunk drivers make it home just fine, until they don't...losing someone to a drinking driver would be a tragedy
I don't think your average individual when they have the occasional glass of alcohol, has any intention of maiming or killing someone. They are just having a good time and have one more and sometimes that leads to just one more.
On another forum I was on, one guy was coming home from happy hour and he killed a young woman. He was not drunk. He'd had one drink only. It was not his fault legally concluded, all was good. He knows this logically. He also questions every day of his life, if his reaction timing was just slightly impaired.
Could one second have made a difference? Likely not, but he doesn't really know. He will live with this forever, every single day of his life. A heavy price for one drink. (At least that was his story) and from his posting style which was consistent over a decade I would say he was a man of integrity, stable and logical with a big heart.
Someone lost a daughter, others a sister, others a friend...others a potential mother. The world is less.
yeah me too
I feel like I was spared such a thing by mere seconds.
It was about 8 years ago. I T'd a car in an intersection when he turned left in front of me. Destroyed my car and his. No one was hurt.
I was tentative driving for weeks afterward. I checked everything multiple times instead of just barreling along. I was at the big intersection near my home. I clearly remember there being a cabbie beside me. It was hot and I didn't have the air on in my new car so my windows were down. The light turned green for us. The cabbie tore out of there like I normally would have.
I was slow and did a double check. Right after the cabbie pulled forward, this guy on a little scooter buzzed right through a red light. I would have hit him... he had no protection on just his helmet.
I started shaking and thought to myself, thank god for that accident and my hesitation due to it. The weeks of caution and weeks of acupuncture due to the seatbelt burn/bruising were a light cost to pay.
Just like there was no link between registering automatic weapons and having them stolen by the government a few years later.
One small step in the right direction
Just the fact that the cops can stop you just to see if you might be breaking some rule is wrong. They haven't caught you speeding, they haven't seen you talking on the phone, they didn't see you leave a bar, they just detain you to see if there might be something they can write a ticket for.
that was not my question nor was I asking for instruction but thanks for the input, I did consider it
On a brighter note, traffic was slowed yesterday for a check stop on one of my city's busiest streets.... a charity checkstop. There was a lane for through traffic, and a donation lane that exuberant volunteers were trying to entice people to take, where you could donate food, toys, or cash, to a couple different local charities. It was nice to see.
anything they want to do to keep drinking off of the road is fine with me, and they can pull me over any
time they want, nothing will happen, I don't drink.
there are also medical reasons that would show a policeman that he should pull someone over, as the
vehicle might be swerving around, that is saving the driver from harm, and maybe someone else as well.
drinking and driving is nothing different than threatening people with a loaded gun.
time they want, nothing will happen, I don't drink.
there are also medical reasons that would show a policeman that he should pull someone over, as the
vehicle might be swerving around, that is saving the driver from harm, and maybe someone else as well.
drinking and driving is nothing different than threatening people with a loaded gun.