What was the fight between God and Satan about?

French Patriot

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Dexter: We can't start with facts - there are none. Fact requires empirical data, yes?
I would never refer to Satan as an inocuous character. He, I m sure, enjoys others thinking that of him. Ahh. He's just a devil, big whip. Yikes. Danger Danger.

Petros: You can short circuit Scripture with the best of them. Wondering if you have been hanging out with the Mayor of Toronto.

Lone Wolf, you said, "In the eyes of God, one is as insignificant as the other..." This is not so. Rather, You are significant in the eyes of God. Don't let the injustices and shennanigans of this world blind you to God's concern for you. I bet he'd like to make you a sandwich and bless you.

If God is so concerned and loving of mankind, then why are the vast majority of us bound for hell while just a few are bound for heaven?

Regards
DL
 

darkbeaver

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Dexter: We can't start with facts - there are none. Fact requires empirical data, yes?
I would never refer to Satan as an inocuous character. He, I m sure, enjoys others thinking that of him. Ahh. He's just a devil, big whip. Yikes. Danger Danger.

Petros: You can short circuit Scripture with the best of them. Wondering if you have been hanging out with the Mayor of Toronto.

Lone Wolf, you said, "In the eyes of God, one is as insignificant as the other..." This is not so. Rather, You are significant in the eyes of God. Don't let the injustices and shennanigans of this world blind you to God's concern for you. I bet he'd like to make you a sandwich and bless you.

Hint: Satan and God inhabit the same clay vessel.
 

darkbeaver

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Old time religion is the worship of plasma/sun., which animates matter, which gives light/plasma expression in this here material dimension. The spark/plasma is male the mater/matter/mother is female.
We all like the sun don't we? I mean are any of us stupid enough not to obey the sun? We are forever looking for that perfect light ain't we? Whorshipping a deceased meat bag is idolatry of the Satanic kind. Remember no false idols, only pure warm sunlight. The electric light bulb was the work of Satan.
 

EagleSmack

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Was this the scrap between two dudes over a golden fleece?
Or was it the one where one of them stole Helen of Troy and the other got pissed off?


Good question LG.

Let us ask the panel.

Was the destruction of Troy over Helen stealing the Golden Fleece?
 

Dexter Sinister

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Dexter: We can't start with facts - there are none.
Sure there are, he appears as a character in Hebrew, Christian,and Islamic scripture, he's a common subject of popular fiction, he's widely believed to exist and have certain characteristics, the contemporary view of him and his historical development can be linked to roots in many cultures, he's an idea that's clearly evolved over time and there are testable historical explanations for that, etc. What do you think a fact is?
 

cj44

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If God is so concerned and loving of mankind, then why are the vast majority of us bound for hell while just a few are bound for heaven?

Regards
DL
Why are you blaming God for the "majority of mankind" going to hell?

Sure there are, he appears as a character in Hebrew, Christian,and Islamic scripture, he's a common subject of popular fiction, he's widely believed to exist and have certain characteristics, the contemporary view of him and his historical development can be linked to roots in many cultures, he's an idea that's clearly evolved over time and there are testable historical explanations for that, etc. What do you think a fact is?
I thought most on this thread demand emperical data. For me Satan is a fact. Christ more so. Angels, yes. It ain't just us. We are not alone.

Old time religion is the worship of plasma/sun., which animates matter, which gives light/plasma expression in this here material dimension. The spark/plasma is male the mater/matter/mother is female.
We all like the sun don't we? I mean are any of us stupid enough not to obey the sun? We are forever looking for that perfect light ain't we? Whorshipping a deceased meat bag is idolatry of the Satanic kind. Remember no false idols, only pure warm sunlight. The electric light bulb was the work of Satan.
Dark, what do you think of those new curly cue "energy saving" lightbulbs? I hate em.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Why are you blaming God for the "majority of mankind" going to hell?
Seems a reasonable position to me. He created us flawed, if he has the characteristics usually ascribed to him you have to believe that he knew exactly what would happen, and let it happen anyway when he could have made things different. That means he's responsible.
I thought most on this thread demand emperical data. For me Satan is a fact. Christ more so. Angels, yes.
There's no empirical data that would support those claims, but there's plenty of empirical data about what people believe about those claims. You've just provided some.
 

Cliffy

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"And Man created god in his own image" - Mark Twain

Satan's greatest accomplishment was to convince Man that he was god. The biblical version of god is that of a psychopathic lunatic, which to me says the biblical god is the evil one. He has too many human traits to be truly a god: jealous, angry, vengeful, contradictory and just plain mean (OT) and then gets some anger management training, mellows out some by killing off his own son.