Hey guess what...Quebec wants to separate again
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Indeed, but she is monarch separately to each, not common to both. As I said, Canada can legally declare war on Britain, something Canada could not do if the monarch was common.
As for looking anything up on Wiki, Wiki is a handy fast and dirty reference for the proposition that a post is not invented out of thin air. However it is American based and controlled. Americans have a very shallow public education and a huge blind spot about anything outside of the US. Good luck relying on Wiki to understand anything about the complexity of Canadian constitutionality. Very few Yanks could even find Ottawa on a map.
Blackleaf seems like the Brit version of the Ugly American this week.
We? You're a Yank.
Excuse me a moment everyone. Everyone? Excuse me...thank you. :smile:
A word if you don't mind Mr. tober.
May I call you tobe?
See tobe, the thing is, I'm getting worried that you're losing your fucking mind. That you've developed a tolerance for your meds. Or, that maybe, you are happily pursuing a self-fulfillment prophecy whereby you have that growing sense that something dreadful might happen to you whilst you stickhandle about the board on weak-ankled Goodwill skates.
Do ya like video games tobe? They're pretty fun and stuff. I'm rather exceptional at Halo 2 my own self but I digress...anywho, you may have heard of power-ups, upgrades, cheat codes and such. Well I just beat 18 spammers today and ya wanna see what I got as a reward from Jelsoft?
Here look:
Pretty fuckin' cool eh.
I don't like to brag but none of the other boys have that one yet.
I like you tobe. Don't misunderstand me. That's why I'm speaking to you in black, not that smarty-pants mod-green they give us. You're a handsome man. If I had a son he might be like you. Ha! Gotchya there didn't I. Old Locutus is a real mirth-maker. Hahahaha. Ahem...
Where was I ? Oh right...now I don't take a lot of pleasure in arbitrarily sending some dickhead to the penalty box tobe, awww I can't lie to you tobe, I likes ya...I fuckin' love doing just that when some arsehole becomes a constant pain in everyone's ass.
Ain't that right hunboldt? Hunboldt?
I know you're a little shaky too now that Bear is back but take heed sir.
Would you look at the time...I better let you all get back to the topics of the day and all that jazz.
Just like to leave on a note of levity as nobody wants to be labelled as Buzz Killington.
Peace be with you.
Thank you and have a pleasant evening. :smile:
LMAO - I hope that post took you a while to create. Ever take it into your head to make a living?
Again, they sound like spoilt little brats that if they don't get their way, they throw themselves on the floor and threaten to run away. It is all about money, so let them run away. Give the country 10,000 dollars and "GIT"! We would be the richer for it.
When we were younger and threatened to leave home, we were told, go ahead ....see for yourself is life is better, but don't come running back when reality hits.
When we were younger and threatened to leave home, we were told, go ahead ....see for yourself is life is better, but don't come running back when reality hits.
Quebec would voluntarily be transforming themselves into a third world nation over night... They want to go it alone; great, have at 'er but don't come sniveling when your healthcare hits the wall, social services are all but non-existent and any business that does it's primary work outside Quebec pulls up stakes and takes their jobs and taxes across the river.
Yes I can. I said right from the start that Canada was in it from the start, rather than Britain having to "beg" you to join.
So you didn't win anything on your own did you? Canadians were there from the beginning and were moving forward while the British Expeditionary Force were swimming for their lives in Dunkirk Harbour.
As I've said, we would have won WWII anyway without the Supermen from Canada and American stepping in.
And, unlike Canada and America, Britain has fought a war alone in recent decades and won (as well as all the other times during the time of Empire we fought alone and won).
Actually, that was a hastily planned move that was , fortunately, called back, with the loss of transport but not men.So you didn't win anything on your own did you? Canadians were there from the beginning and were moving forward while the British Expeditionary Force were swimming for their lives in Dunkirk Harbour.
The original British plan by Lord Gort was to dig in along the French frontier with Belgium and hold. The political considerations that caused the move forward to the Dyle line trumped good military planning.
Okay.
No-o-o-o. Heavy casualties. One of the reasons for the attack was to satisfy Uncle Joe that the western allies were trying, but nothing was possible yet.
This is not to minimize anything Canada did during the war.
"Without American production the United Nations could never have won the war" -Joseph Stalin
Suck it up buttercup.
Captain - Might I trouble you to estimate Quebecs present debt, portion of federal debt, with the land base of 1867- Take some off for losing Northern Resources that they paid for- only those they directly paid for.
Who would purchase Quebec's Sovereign Nation bonds.
I sense not Junk Bonds, more like Financial Suicide Bonds-
If you- yes we mean you, want to lose everything, buy these Bonds.
Canada is far too accomodating of Quebec threats of separation.
Keep in mind the ONLY active movement for Quebec separation is that of Sovereignty.. not Separation. It is supported solely by a cynical element of the Quebec political class.. and its sole goal is entitling and enriching the Quebec elite. The last thing they want in Separation because that would be economically disastrous and they know it. What they want is full membership in the advantages of Confederation with none of its responsibilities.
They want to improvise some kind of impoverished patria to an ethnically pure strand ( pure laine).. racially defined.. as this class has utterly rejected the Catholic component of Quebec society.. without becoming a country.
They devise false threats to language and culture when in fact the only reason the French language still exists is due the cultural buffer that Canada provides.. going back to the protection of language, culture and faith implemented by Lord Dorchester after the British consolidation of North American governance in 1759. There would be no hope for it as a small Latin Republic isolated in an American North American hegemony.
There is NO Constitutional mechanism for Quebec separation. Nothing the Quebec provincial government implements forces any response or agreement on the rest of Canada.
We should be confident enough to learn from the American example. The protection and enhancement of French culture in Canada is always open for discussion.. AS a NATIONAL... not a Provincial mandate.. AND.. that Canada itself is INDIVISIBLE. The only way out is to fight your way out. The jaded political class of Quebec Sovereigntists KNOWS it has NO chance of mustering any kind of movement for that.
Keep in mind the ONLY active movement for Quebec separation is that of Sovereignty.. not Separation. It is supported solely by a cynical element of the Quebec political class.. and its sole goal is entitling and enriching the Quebec elite. The last thing they want in Separation because that would be economically disastrous and they know it. What they want is full membership in the advantages of Confederation with none of its responsibilities.
They want to improvise some kind of impoverished patria to an ethnically pure strand ( pure laine).. racially defined.. as this class has utterly rejected the Catholic component of Quebec society.. without becoming a country.
They devise false threats to language and culture when in fact the only reason the French language still exists is due the cultural buffer that Canada provides.. going back to the protection of language, culture and faith implemented by Lord Dorchester after the British consolidation of North American governance in 1759. There would be no hope for it as a small Latin Republic isolated in an American North American hegemony.
There is NO Constitutional mechanism for Quebec separation. Nothing the Quebec provincial government implements forces any response or agreement on the rest of Canada.
We should be confident enough to learn from the American example. The protection and enhancement of French culture in Canada is always open for discussion.. AS a NATIONAL... not a Provincial mandate.. AND.. that Canada itself is INDIVISIBLE. The only way out is to fight your way out. The jaded political class of Quebec Sovereigntists KNOWS it has NO chance of mustering any kind of movement for that.
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There is much merit to what you say. I totally agree that the issue is a small elite group of selfish politicians. However there is another side that does not conflict with that. In the 1960's, when the world was full of rebelling internal cultures, Canada became the only nation in the world to suffer rebellion by a large, centrally located cultural minority and settle it peacefully. The FLQ Crisis was not a cultural rebellion, it was an isolated event. All of Quebec culture did not take to force. Force was avoided by Canadian diplomacy. The compromises we made were justifiable. The status of Quebecers in their own country was of second-class citizens. The Ontario power structure that caused it is still active. Some of them actively and aggressively try to push Quebec around. I was on a national conference call some years back when a senior Ontario lawyer kept insisting that he would not trust Quebec lawyers and they should be excluded from a national project because (he said), 'How should I know how the province of Quebec qualifies its lawyers?' No complaint was made about any other province. It was complete bullschmidt - political bullying of French Canadians. And this from a senior Ontario government lawyer.