Vietnam - Did America Win All the Battles?

[CDNBear]

Not at all. He admitted leaving teaching because he couldn't hold his temper with students. You're the one who mentioned a few posts ago that he's a teacher, and you're also the one with the gutter mind.

Uh huh, sure sure. Weak dude.

I'll bet you're not 21 yet.

Holy crap, your list of inadequacies just keeps on growing and growing, lol.

Bet you whistle a mighty tune in a cross wind.

 

[Colpy]

Not at all. He admitted leaving teaching because he couldn't hold his temper with students. You're the one who mentioned a few posts ago that he's a teacher, and you're also the one with the gutter mind. I'll bet you're not 21 yet.



Ahhhhhh! Dirty mouth eh? That the way "sons of liberty" behave abroad? Matter of fact it is. That's why they are world pariahs.

Actually, I was not a good teacher because I had a problem holding my temper with arrogant, ignorant arseholes. I did not leave teaching because of that...........I left because I got a job in armoured transport I liked much, much better.....which in the end had me teaching guards how to defend themselves with handguns.

BTW, I caught the misdirection.

You know you are outclassed on the history argument, so NOW you want to sling mud....

 

[pgs]

"Crying foul," says the loser of the winner. Sour grapes, something we see more and more of as the short-lived American Empire collapses. Some historians have commented that there never really was an American Empire. US hegemony has been far too short lived to call it an empire, fifty years or less. What we are seeing is the final collapse of the British Empire that extended from approximately 1815 (the Battle of Waterloo) to 1992, transferring from Britain to the US in 1942 (in March of 1942 the last British gold at Fort Knox was transferred to the American pile; within days Lend Lease started). General Giap didn't last three weeks, he beat America and won the war. Canadian General Sherwood Lett was a friend of General Lett from WW2. I spent an afternoon visiting General Lett's widow and saw mementos of the friendship in the home.

Just maybe because unlike most other powerfull nations America never tried to create an empire.

Alright, but do you have proof? No, a proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

Too funny Jean

 

[tober]

Actually, I was not a good teacher because I had a problem holding my temper with arrogant, ignorant arseholes. I did not leave teaching because of that...........I left because I got a job in armoured transport I liked much, much better.....which in the end had me teaching guards how to defend themselves with handguns.

BTW, I caught the misdirection.

You know you are outclassed on the history argument, so NOW you want to sling mud.... file:///C:\Users\B\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtml1\04\clip_image001.gif

Not for a moment. I was, unfortunately, answering rudeness with rudeness. I shouldn't have.

Your history argument is irrelevant. The discussion concerned whether Canadians could brag that Canada whupped the US in the War of 1812. A fun argument that means nothing. Your reply went off on a tangent about whether the Brit Foreign Office wanted rid of Canada by 1867. Its an interesting argument that I’d never heard before. For all I know you’re probably right. But so what? It’s irrelevant to the topic.

Just maybe because unlike most other powerfull nations America never tried to create an empire.

I guess we'll have to disagree.

 

[gopher]

He loves and adores Breezy. He aches for her and she p***ed all over him. Gopher wallowed in it... writhed in it.

"No Breezy... you don't mean me do you? I always groveled to you Breezy. Please love me... "


lmao... what a sad sack.

You and SOL (which stands for sh1t outta luck in the Midwest) seem to wipe one another's butts quite a bit. You two must have something going ....

 

[pgs]

Not for a moment. I was, unfortunately, answering rudeness with rudeness. I shouldn't have.

Your history argument is irrelevant. The discussion concerned whether Canadians could brag that Canada whupped the US in the War of 1812. A fun argument that means nothing. Your reply went off on a tangent about whether the Brit Foreign Office wanted rid of Canada by 1867. Its an interesting argument that I’d never heard before. For all I know you’re probably right. But so what? It’s irrelevant to the topic.

Even though it is irrelevant to the Vietnamese thread,I do agree that in most instances an equal amount of Canadian troops are probably more deadly than there American counterparts. But that is simply because of social and economic situations.

 

[gopher]

baals

tober isn't anti-american...i am. Fuk your country. Let it burn.

lol!

 

[CDNBear]

Your history argument is irrelevant.

True, but it did an excellent job of showing how little you actually know.

Therefore, relevant in general terms.

The discussion concerned whether Canadians could brag that Canada whupped the US in the War of 1812. A fun argument that means nothing.

It's not "a fun argument" it's a stupid one. Canada as a country with citizens that identified as Canadians, didn't exist, full stop.

 

[tober]

Yep. Used to be on Front Page Challenge, had a interview show, wrote books on the Great War, the railway, wrote a completely idiotic chapter on the Beothuk (look it up) in My Country.....was NOT a historian.

In university, my Canadian history prof told us right off the bat in Intro to Canadian that anyone that referenced Pierre in an essay flunked.

He was also a bloated ego, FWIW.

Which once again demonstrates how little you know. The British Colonial Office was instructed to get rid of us, and worked towards that end tirelessly.

So? It nothing to do with the War of 1812, and that is the current topic.

 

[B00Mer]

The War of 1812 Canadian Edition - YouTube

:lol:

 

[EagleSmack]

You and SOL (which stands for sh1t outta luck in the Midwest) seem to wipe one another's butts quite a bit. You two must have something going ....

Typical lib.

That's all you can bring to the table?

So? It nothing to do with the War of 1812, and that is the current topic.

Yes... "it nothing" to do with the War of 1812.

Moron

 

[Christianna]

I don't know about the battles but they sure did lose the war. So many young people dead for what?

 

[BaalsTears]

You write like somebody possessed by a very special kind of stupid. I don’t “hate” the people, and I have written that here often in reply to posters like y'all. I criticize the ideology. If you respect the ideology the US has become, fair enough. It is fascism, just so you know. Snooze away, sleeper.



We proved that.

It must suck to be so uninformed about the history of North America.

"Crying foul," says the loser of the winner. Sour grapes, something we see more and more of as the short-lived American Empire collapses. Some historians have commented that there never really was an American Empire. US hegemony has been far too short lived to call it an empire, fifty years or less. What we are seeing is the final collapse of the British Empire that extended from approximately 1815 (the Battle of Waterloo) to 1992, transferring from Britain to the US in 1942 (in March of 1942 the last British gold at Fort Knox was transferred to the American pile; within days Lend Lease started). General Giap didn't last three weeks, he beat America and won the war. Canadian General Sherwood Lett was a friend of General Lett from WW2. I spent an afternoon visiting General Lett's widow and saw mementos of the friendship in the home.

You seem to be marginally aware that the world has entered a new era of history...one in which all Western nations will be diminished and marginalized. Can you guess what the new era will be like? Probably not.

"Canada" to their credit, repelled several invasion attempts, but it was not a "Canadian" victory, as such a mindset did not really exist at the time, the war was a British war, our forces were led by British officers, we fought beside British regulars, and the efforts of Canadian militia were largely outweighed by the contribution of natives, led by a non-Canadian, and certainly NOT fighting for Canada.....which did not exist as a nation.

And the war was a draw..........neither side gained anything.

Oh....and in every engagement, poorly trained Canadian militia was outperformed by British regulars, and often by Tecumseh's Indian forces.

Canada propaganda is one thing, historical truth is another.

Accurate.

I think the difference between the origin of a national consciousness in Canada and America arose from the very different patterns of colonization and settlement. Lower Canada was part of New France until it became part of British North America at the end of the Seven Years War. The French were hands on in the creation of New France. The British Crown granted charters and let the different American colonies run their own affairs until after the French and Indian War. Very different business models. It's the difference between vertical integration and franchising.

 

[Goober]

Not at all. He admitted leaving teaching because he couldn't hold his temper with students. You're the one who mentioned a few posts ago that he's a teacher, and you're also the one with the gutter mind. I'll bet you're not 21 yet.

No- This is what he wrote- "Actually, I was not a good teacher because I had a problem holding my temper with arrogant, ignorant arseholes".

Well dealing with arsholes and arrogant idiots all day is not my idea of enjoying a career.
You obviously get along quite well with these types though.That is in itself quite telling.

 

[Spade]

I don't know about the battles but they sure did lose the war. So many young people dead for what?

For ideology. Dominoes anyone?

 

[gopher]

Typical lib.

That's all you can bring to the table?



Yes... "it nothing" to do with the War of 1812.

Moron

typical right wing delusional - same old empty rhetoric ....

 

[tober]

You seem to be marginally aware that the world has entered a new era of history...one in which all Western nations will be diminished and marginalized.

America especially. Sucks, eh? As world pariah y'all're already marginalized. Does it make y'all feel inadequate and want to call strangers names for differing with y'all?

If y'all're red state educated lemme make summit clear. "Marginalized" don't mean the same thang as "margarineized." Margarine's what y'all put on yer toast n' call butter.

 

[Omicron]

Hmm...

http://stuff.digitalock.com/Damien_Robitaille-Metres_De_Mon_Etre.mp3

My American uncle got given a seven gun solute at his funeral to be one of a certain 300 to have survived an early attack.

 

[damngrumpy]

The Vietnam War was not a winner because the majority of Vietnamese citizens
did not support the South's government they supported the communist north.
It was only a matter of time before the North came to unite the country.

 

[tober]

Dominoes anyone?

An American I read on a site some years back, who claimed to be a big wheel in government, claimed differently. "Domino effect" was for public consumption so that Ma and Pa Kettle wouldn't know what was really intended for their kids. The real reason (he claimed) was the same war of attrition that was used by the Reagan Administration and Star Wars. The intention was to outspend the various communist nations with constant war. Dead sons in the late 1960's were part of a long range plan to just keep war going in the hopes of outspending the enemy. It sounded to me more like war to keep American industry busy, but everybody's entitled to their own opinion on that issue.