Defunding Obamacare passes house.

Christianna

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Another low educated myth. It was a bill by Democrats and passed by Democrats when they controlled both Houses of Congress.
The democrats have never had a filibuster proof majority in either house for years and the republicans have used the filibuster a record number of times since Obama has been in office. In the hundreds as opposed to the 60ish times democrats used it when Bush was in office .
 

BaalsTears

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Obamacare - it's working to save money and lives:


Government Releases Obamacare Premium Levels for 36 More States | Mother Jones




Bad news for the right wing ......

Do you think it's a good thing to have lots of folks living in the USA who hate the USA?

If the republicans hadn't insisted Obamacare become gods gift to the insurance companies it might have stood more of a chance of suceeding, however that is the last thing the right wingers want.

We want blood...speaking figuratively of course.
 

gopher

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Exactly and more taxes for the public coffers!



As in every country that has universal health care, it pays for itself through that productivity and taxes generated.

The delusional right wingers know it but they prefer to have more people die. For some, when it strikes home they will change their wicked little minds. Hopefully they will open their eyes before it is too late.
 

damngrumpy

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Even some moderate Republicans are in agreement shutting down the Government
is not a good thing. Obama will be the winner here as he does not have to do much
of anything until the debt ceiling deadline. Moderate Republicans the true conservatives
have to put the nut jobs of the Tea Party in their place. The fact is Obamacare will be
the law of the land, and people will become used to it in the months ahead.
Republicans could very well end up on the wrong side of history for the next election.
 

gopher

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Obamacare IS the law of the land, has already saved many lives, and has saved people MILLIONS of dollars contrary to the beliefs and wishes of the right wing delusionals.
 

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Even some moderate Republicans are in agreement shutting down the Government
is not a good thing. Obama will be the winner here as he does not have to do much
of anything until the debt ceiling deadline. Moderate Republicans the true conservatives
have to put the nut jobs of the Tea Party in their place. The fact is Obamacare will be
the law of the land, and people will become used to it in the months ahead.
Republicans could very well end up on the wrong side of history for the next election.

One problem I see is Gov't employees are comprised of a mixture of industrious, dedicated workers and bureaucrats- I'm not sure what the percentage of each is, but the trick is to lay off the right ones. While a very few bureaucrats are needed (like the ones who do the payrolls) most of them are not and should be either laid off or reassigned to a useful position.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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As in every country that has universal health care, it pays for itself through that productivity and taxes generated.

At this point in your post I thought that your analysis was at least rational.

Then below the mask slips and the retard emerges.

The delusional right wingers know it but they prefer to have more people die. For some, when it strikes home they will change their wicked little minds. Hopefully they will open their eyes before it is too late.

That aside, I think the Tea Party element in the Republicans are screwing the American people by shutting down the government. I guess the Republicans would rather sit in opposition looking like idiots then put the American economy first.

They really have lost their way.
 

gopher

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When speaking of retard speak for yourself.

Republican silence in the face of the Tea Bagger takeover shows the stupidity of that party. Clearly it is costing them votes and will cost them even more. If they were smart they would realize Obamacare is the law - deal with it.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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When speaking of retard speak for yourself.

Republican silence in the face of the Tea Bagger takeover shows the stupidity of that party. Clearly it is costing them votes and will cost them even more. If they were smart they would realize Obamacare is the law - deal with it.


Gopher your problem, and why no one takes you seriously, is because you are so extreme that you look stupid even in the eyes of those who hold the same political leanings. I actually agree that this is really stupid on the part of the Republicans, but you're such an idiot making statements like: "delusional right wingers know it but they prefer to have more people die." clearly illustrates what a no brain kool aid drinking retard you are.

Sad, but amusing.
Carry on.
 

pgs

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As in every country that has universal health care, it pays for itself through that productivity and taxes generated.

The delusional right wingers know it but they prefer to have more people die. For some, when it strikes home they will change their wicked little minds. Hopefully they will open their eyes before it is too late.
Wow you obviously have not studied Canada's vaunted health care system that has every province scrambling to find monies to fund.
 

gopher

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Gopher your problem, and why no one takes you seriously, is because you are so extreme that you look stupid even in the eyes of those who hold the same political leanings. I actually agree that this is really stupid on the part of the Republicans, but you're such an idiot making statements like: "delusional right wingers know it but they prefer to have more people die." clearly illustrates what a no brain kool aid drinking retard you are.

Sad, but amusing.
Carry on.


Try not to be so stupid.

I have posted on this forum plenty of evidence which proved that 45,000 Americans died every year from lack of health care thanks to the stupidity of the Republican party. This is a holocaust that killed over one million people since the days of Reagan. Had this happened anywhere else in the world right wingers would be demanding that the USA intervene with guns and money. But it happens here right Under neath everybody's noses and Republicans applaud. This is stupidity of the worse kind. And for some ignorant know nothing like you to try to sanitize it only makes matters worse.

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pgs; said:
Wow you obviously have not studied Canada's vaunted health care system that has every province scrambling to find monies to fund.



So why do the vast majority of Canadians favor the system you now have in place?
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Try not to be so stupid.

I have posted on this forum plenty of evidence which proved that 45,000 Americans died every year from lack of health care thanks to the stupidity of the Republican party. This is a holocaust that killed over one million people since the days of Reagan. Had this happened anywhere else in the world right wingers would be demanding that the USA intervene with guns and money. But it happens here right Under neath everybody's noses and Republicans applaud. This is stupidity of the worse kind. And for some ignorant know nothing like you to try to sanitize it only makes matters worse.

Oh wow, now you're making holocaust comparisons.

Why am I not surprised.

Well I did say carry on, and as usual you stepped right up to the plate.

Well done.
 

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Yes... that which was disproven.

That study by Harvard simply took a poll of how many people had health care and how many didn't. When they died they were counted as they died because they didn't have health care. Nor were the deceased ever checked to see if they got health care between the time of the poll and their death. Nor were the ones who died and had health care used in the data the tards like you use.

So yes... you're a retard as well as a Kool-Aid drinker... and that is why nobody takes you seriously in here.