Defunding Obamacare passes house.
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Horseshït. Not one source disproved that Harvard study. In fact there have been others which determined that it was too conservative. Luckily the numbers have been reduced but recent studies reach the same conclusion: that lack of insurance coverage results in needless deaths:
Over 26,000 annual deaths for uninsured: report | Reuters
More than 26,000 working-age adults die prematurely in the United States each year because they lack health insurance, according to a study published ahead of a landmark U.S. Supreme Court ruling on President Barack Obama's healthcare reform law.
The study, released on Wednesday by the consumer advocacy group Families USA, estimates that a record high of 26,100 people aged 25 to 64 died for lack of health coverage in 2010, up from 20,350 in 2005 and 18,000 in 2000.
That makes for a rate of about 72 deaths per day, or three per hour.
The nonprofit group based its findings on data from the U.S. Census Bureau, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and a 2002 Institute of Medicine study that showed the uninsured face a 25 percent higher risk of death than those with coverage.
The findings are in line with a study by the Urban Institute think tank that estimated 22,000 deaths nationwide in 2006.
Families USA Executive Director Ron Pollack said the group released the study to illustrate the potential human toll behind a high court ruling that could overturn the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act by the end of next week.
"Lives are truly on the line," said Pollack, who supports the reform law. "If the Affordable Care Act moves forward and we expand coverage for tens of millions of people, the number of avoidable deaths due to being uninsured will decrease significantly."
The reform law would extend coverage to more than 30 million Americans who are uninsured. But 26 U.S. states have asked the Supreme Court to overturn the legislation on grounds that it exceeds the government's constitutional authority.
The $2.6 trillion U.S. healthcare system, which represents nearly 18 percent of the economy, is accessible to most working-age Americans only through private health insurance. But insurance costs - premiums, deductibles, copays and co-insurance - are unaffordable for many and increasing.
U.S. Census data show that 50 million Americans lack coverage, and experts say those in such straits forego medical care, doctor visits and preventive tests including cancer and blood pressure screenings.
"The uninsured get healthcare about half as often as insured Americans, on average," said Dr. Arthur Kellermann, director of the think tank RAND Health and co-chairman of the committee that produced the 2002 IOM study.
"There is an overwhelming body of evidence that they get less preventive care, less chronic disease care and poorer quality hospital in-patient care," he said.
Pollack and other healthcare advocates say the number of uninsured will continue to rise without reform as healthcare costs accelerate, employers scale back on benefits for their workers, and the social safety net frays under fiscal pressures.
The Families USA study includes a state-by-state breakdown on uninsured deaths. The list excludes Massachusetts, which adopted reforms similar to the Affordable Care Act in 2006. The group said it was concerned that statistics on uninsured people for the state might not accurately reflect the growing rate of coverage.
IOM's 2002 report, "Care Without Coverage: Too Little, Too Late," based its finding of a 25 percent higher mortality risk for the uninsured based on thousands of scientific studies analyzed as part of a multi-year effort that produced six reports in all.
"The figure was as rigorous as could be done with the huge amount evidence we had at the time," Kellermann said.
And regardless of what any wannabe says or believes, one million deaths is a holocaust. It takes the utmost stupidity to defend or sanitize it in any way.
What?! It's the biggest part of ON's budget and the current gubmint runs huge deficits each year. You have no idea of what you speak.
Drivel and propaganda.
Just the truth, buddy.
You can cry all you want but you have yet to prove that anything I've written here is incorrect in any way.
In your delusionalism you missed the fact that even Senator McCain said it's time to accept Obamacare as law of the land.
See Google for links.
To be quite honest, until 20 minutes ago I knew nothing about Obamacare but I was able to find the Obamacare calculator on line and inserted a few different scenarios. The premium appear to be pretty well directly proportional to income up to a maximum of about $8100 a year premium. A family of 5 with an income of around $30,000 or less pays virtually nothing. I chose the city of Bend Oregon for my samples. If this is indicative of the country as a whole I don't see a hell of a lot wrong with the plan. Could someone further enlighten me if that is what I need?
I'm actually laughing. I don't need to fact check your stupidity, it speaks for itself.
So you have no proof that anything I wrote was incorrect in any way.
Thank you for the admission of your stupidity in attacking without proving me wrong in anything.
Thank you for the admission of your stupidity in attacking without proving me wrong in anything.
Oh wow! Even Sen. McCain! In 2008 he was the biggest idiot since he was running against Obama now he's supposed to be smart?
Tards.
All of a sudden? While he was running for President I heard he was the biggest moron... so incompetent... against women and minorities... the usual.
Now he is revered by the libs?
I don't believe they do. Any proposed change to our system is met by a huge outcry of crocodile tears from the usual suspects.(i.e. those employed in health care.).Any one who has to wait over a year for minor operation (most all elected surgery) certainly find out that our system is dysfunctional. And the waits to see a specialist is in most cases up to six months certainly exacerbates many illnesses. But good luck with your new rationed healthcare. I believe Mrs. Palin described them as death panels. We shall see in a couple of years if she was right.
All of a sudden? While he was running for President I heard he was the biggest moron... so incompetent... against women and minorities... the usual.
Nope, not all of a sudden. I think his military record for survival speaks highly for any endeavour he would aspire to!