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this site is very right leaning as you have found out

The US Air Force coined an expression for when they felt outnumbered. They referred to being in a "target rich environment". That's us.

The sad part about Canadian conservatives is their total adoption of the US model while forgetting what Canada gives them. I was attacked on another thread and told that my "hatred of America knows no bounds" for pointing out that Canadian conservatives have a medical plan that they couldn't buy for $1,000 a month in the US. This site isn't just right leaning, it is taken over by US Republicans. Let's fight back and see if we get banned for opposing site Republicans. If I get booted there are lots more sites out there - its a buyers market.
 

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this site is very right leaning as you have found out

The US Air Force coined an expression for when they felt outnumbered. They referred to being in a "target rich environment". That's us.

The sad part about Canadian conservatives is their total adoption of the US model while forgetting what Canada gives them. I was attacked on another thread and told that my "hatred of America knows no bounds" for pointing out that Canadian conservatives have a medical plan that they couldn't buy for $1,000 a month in the US. This site isn't just right leaning, it is taken over by US Republicans. Let's fight back and see if we get banned for opposing site Republicans. If I get booted there are lots more sites out there - its a buyers market.

And you're paying how much here?

 

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And you're paying how much here?

The same as every other site. Most haven't got this target rich environment of whiny conservatives.




It would be interesting to speculate on why Canadian conservatives are so sensitive about criticisms of US conservatives? Maybe they feel insecure, as though they must prove their worth to Uncle Sam? It reminds me of reading about the German Eastern Front in WW2. The Wehrmacht got so desperate they were using Italian, Hungarian and even Russian SS units in their own black SS uniforms with shoulder patches designating what country they were from. Did those bozos actually think Germans were going to trust them for it? Would you trust a Russian who fought against Russia? Will Yank conservatives respect Canadians who turn against Canada? The Republican Party these days is so extreme that in practice it is fascist. What fascist is going to respect a foreigner (because that is what Canadians are to them) who sides with him against Canadians? None. Nor should they. Nor can we.
 

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The US Air Force coined an expression for when they felt outnumbered. They referred to being in a "target rich environment". That's us.

The sad part about Canadian conservatives is their total adoption of the US model while forgetting what Canada gives them. I was attacked on another thread and told that my "hatred of America knows no bounds" for pointing out that Canadian conservatives have a medical plan that they couldn't buy for $1,000 a month in the US. This site isn't just right leaning, it is taken over by US Republicans. Let's fight back and see if we get banned for opposing site Republicans. If I get booted there are lots more sites out there - its a buyers market.




But some times all the ultra right leanings of this forum can be funny as well.

For example, one time we had another in the myriad of anti-Obama threads that condemned him for the high unemployment rate in the USA. A rate that was only 1/10th of one percent higher than in Canada. Yet no where on this forum has anyone condemned Canada's conservative government for having such a high rate.

Another example: one guy started a thread which discussed the high rate of young adults moving back home to their parents because of the economy. Another right wing poster chimed in with the usual "welcome to the world of Obama". I immediately replied with proof that the young adult return home rate is HIGHER in Canada and that this again has gone uncriticized by the right wingers in CC.

And what was the reply? That I was playing the BROKEN RECORD card.


Right wingers sure as hell can be laughable.
 

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But some times all the ultra right leanings of this forum can be funny as well.

For example, one time we had another in the myriad of anti-Obama threads that condemned him for the high unemployment rate in the USA. A rate that was only 1/10th of one percent higher than in Canada. Yet no where on this forum has anyone condemned Canada's conservative government for having such a high rate.

Another example: one guy started a thread which discussed the high rate of young adults moving back home to their parents because of the economy. Another right wing poster chimed in with the usual "welcome to the world of Obama". I immediately replied with proof that the young adult return home rate is HIGHER in Canada and that this again has gone uncriticized by the right wingers in CC.

And what was the reply? That I was playing the BROKEN RECORD card.


Right wingers sure as hell can be laughable.


The whole modern neo-conservative ideology is funny because it is so contradictory. Try asking a conservative Yank how he can reconcile calling for the smallest central government and largest military in the world? I have yet to receive any reply, let alone a sensible reply to that question.
 

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The same as every other site. Most haven't got this target rich environment of whiny conservatives.




It would be interesting to speculate on why Canadian conservatives are so sensitive about criticisms of US conservatives? Maybe they feel insecure, as though they must prove their worth to Uncle Sam? It reminds me of reading about the German Eastern Front in WW2. The Wehrmacht got so desperate they were using Italian, Hungarian and even Russian SS units in their own black SS uniforms with shoulder patches designating what country they were from. Did those bozos actually think Germans were going to trust them for it? Would you trust a Russian who fought against Russia? Will Yank conservatives respect Canadians who turn against Canada? The Republican Party these days is so extreme that in practice it is fascist. What fascist is going to respect a foreigner (because that is what Canadians are to them) who sides with him against Canadians? None. Nor should they. Nor can we.

"Target rich"??

What a shame you couldn't hit a barn door from inside the barn. :)

BTW, oh brain-dead one, it is not that I particularly like US conservatives, personally, I think the GOP is only slightly less crazy than Obama's crew........it is that I don't like arrogant pissants that engage in that favourite past time of Canadian progressives; unthinking, unfounded hatred of all things American. It obviously stems from a inferiority complex about Canada, one I don't engage in.
 

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BTW, oh brain-dead one, it is not that I particularly like US conservatives, personally, I think the GOP is only slightly less crazy than Obama's crew........it is that I don't like arrogant pissants that engage in that favourite past time of Canadian progressives; unthinking, unfounded hatred of all things American. It obviously stems from a inferiority complex about Canada, one I don't engage in.

Brain-dead? Pissant? How polite.

I am willing to bet you do not know why so many writers call the GOP "fascist", that you think it is merely 1960's vintage hippy name calling. You do not know what the word "fascist" means, do you? You are unaware that the term "fascist" has a recognized political definition in terms of describing a particular form of government, and no matter what name it chooses for itself it is still fascist if it fits the definition?

I am also willing to bet that you do not know that fascists are right wing. Fascism is extreme right wing, but nevertheless right wing. I suspect that, in common with so many of the great unwashed American red neck right wing, you think that fascism must mean left wing because Hitler named his Nazi party "National Socialists". I'm right, aren't I? C'mon now, fess up professor. The reason for this common error is that the American political landscape is still too close to WW2 to admit that it is fascist. It tells its adherents that because both Stalin and Hitler were military dictators, all dictators must be leftists. There is no such thing as a bad right wing government. This is your understanding, isn't it Colpy?

Finally, as long as we're trying to fix dumb let's go to your grammar. You constantly use multiple periods in your sentence structures. There is a rule of grammar that addresses the practice. If your usage is intended to reference a mid-sentence gap, use three periods. If the usage crosses more than one sentence or is describing an infinite extension, use four periods. There is no recognized convention to just toss in an armful like you do.

Did you hear the story about the two farmers from Colpy, Scotland (http://www.visitscotland.com/info/towns-villages/insch-colpy-p237921)? They were neighbours. One day one farmer’s chicken laid an egg that rolled down the grass and came to a stop exactly on the property line of the two men – one-half of the egg now lay on each farmer’s property. The farmer whose chicken had laid the egg went to pick up the egg, but before he could complete the act of recovery the other farmer raced over and threatened to stomp on the egg if the first farmer picked it up. Ownership and possession of the egg were at issue.

Each farmer claimed a right to the egg. The farmer who owned the chicken claimed a legal interest in the egg because it had been produced by his hen on his farm, as well as being half on his property. The second farmer claimed an equitable interest in the egg because not only was half of it on his property, it had come there by trespass. Finally the first farmer suggested a trial of strength to determine the question. They would engage in a kicking contest.

“What’s a kicking contest,” asked the second Colpy farmer?

“We each take a turn deliverin’ one kick to the other,” explained the first Colpy farmer, “and he who kicks the hardest gets the egg.” The first farmer explained that because he owned the chicken he got to go first.

“Ah ha,” thought the second Colpy farmer! “The laddie is stupid. I’ve got on me steel toed boots an' that dummy’s only wearin’ his gum boots.” The agreement was made and the contest ensued.

The second farmer closed his eyes, and the first farmer kicked him right in the balls with his gum boots. The second farmer collapsed, fighting for breath, gagging, barfing, and lay there on the ground outside of Colpy in agony for half an hour before he could get up.

“My turn now - wi ma steel toed boots,” the second Colpy farmer said.

“Nawwwwww,” said the first Colpy farmer, “ye kin have the egg.”



BTW, Colpy, given your consistent name calling there can be little doubt that the label "inferior" you used earlier fits you intellectually.




 
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I am willing to bet you do not know why so many writers call the GOP "fascist", that you think it is merely 1960's vintage hippy name calling. You do not know what the word "fascist" means, do you? You are unaware that the term "fascist" has a recognized political definition in terms of describing a particular form of government, and no matter what name it chooses for itself it is still fascist if it fits the definition.

I am also willing to bet that you do not know that fascists are right wing. Fascism is extreme right wing, but nevertheless right wing. I suspect that, in common with so many of the great unwashed American red neck right wing, you think that fascism must mean left wing because Hitler named his Nazi party "National Socialists". I'm right, aren't I? C'mon now, fess up professor. The reason for this common error is that the American political landscape is still too close to WW2 to admit that it is fascist. It tells its adherents that because both Stalin and Hitler were military dictators, all dictators must be leftists. There is no such thing as a bad right wing government. This is your understanding, isn't it Colpy?

Finally, as long as we're trying to fix dumb let's go to your grammar. You constantly use multiple periods in your sentence structures. There is a rule of grammar that addresses the practice. If your usage is intended to reference a mid-sentence gap, use three periods. If the usage crosses more than one sentence or is describing an infinite extension, use four periods. There is no recognized convention to just toss in an armful like you do.

Did you hear the story about the two farmers from Colpy, Scotland (http://www.visitscotland.com/info/towns-villages/insch-colpy-p237921)? They were neighbours. One day one farmer’s chicken laid an egg that rolled down the grass and came to a stop exactly on the property line of the two men – one-half of the egg now lay on each farmer’s property. The farmer whose chicken had laid the egg went to pick up the egg, but before he could complete the act of recovery the other farmer raced over and threatened to stomp on the egg if the first farmer picked it up. Ownership and possession of the egg were at issue.

Each farmer claimed a right to the egg. The farmer who owned the chicken claimed a legal interest in the egg because it had been produced by his hen on his farm, as well as being half on his property. The second farmer claimed an equitable interest in the egg because not only was half of it on his property, it had come there by trespass. Finally the first farmer suggested a trial of strength to determine the question. They would engage in a kicking contest.

“What’s a kicking contest,” asked the second Colpy farmer?

“We each take a turn deliverin’ one kick to the other,” explained the first Colpy farmer, “and he who kicks the hardest gets the egg.” The first farmer explained that because he owned the chicken he got to go first.

“Ah ha,” thought the second Colpy farmer! “The laddie is stupid. I’ve got on me steel toed boots an' that dummy’s only wearin’ his gum boots.” The agreement was made and the contest ensued.

The second farmer closed his eyes, and the first farmer kicked him right in the balls with his gum boots. The second farmer collapsed, fighting for breath, gagging, barfing, and lay there on the ground outside of Colpy in agony for half an hour before he could get up.

“My turn now - wi ma steel toed boots,” the second Colpy farmer said.

“Nawwwwww,” said the first Colpy farmer, “ye kin have the egg.”

Person attacks. I thought you were calling people on this?
 

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Person attacks. I thought you were calling people on this?

Well if it ain't Ol' goober. Howdy, y'all. "Person attacks?" What's a person attack? Thet thar must be somethang American, eh boy? Like in My Lai?

Did you read the post it answers? Besides, this is just fun. I even passed on an old joke about Colpy, Scotland. Y'all wouldn't know where Scotland is - it ain't in America.
 

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Another example: one guy started a thread which discussed the high rate of young adults moving back home to their parents because of the economy. Another right wing poster chimed in with the usual "welcome to the world of Obama". I immediately replied with proof that the young adult return home rate is HIGHER in Canada and that this again has gone uncriticized by the right wingers in CC.

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Well if it ain't Ol' goober. Howdy, y'all. "Person attacks?" What's a person attack? Thet thar must be somethang American, eh boy? Like in My Lai?

Did you read the post it answers? Besides, this is just fun. I even passed on an old joke about Colpy, Scotland. Y'all wouldn't know where Scotland is - it ain't in America.

Ooops. Personal attacks. My bad.
 

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Brain-dead? Pissant? How polite.



You started it .......if you can't handle the heat, don't throw matches the tinder.




I am willing to bet you do not know why so many writers call the GOP "fascist", that you think it is merely 1960's vintage hippy name calling. You do not know what the word "fascist" means, do you? You are unaware that the term "fascist" has a recognized political definition in terms of describing a particular form of government, and no matter what name it chooses for itself it is still fascist if it fits the definition?


I do know what a fascist is.....and I am aware of the political philosophy that goes by that name. I also know that anyone that calls the GOP "fascist" doesn't have a ****ing clue what they are talking about.

I am also willing to bet that you do not know that fascists are right wing. Fascism is extreme right wing, but nevertheless right wing. I suspect that, in common with so many of the great unwashed American red neck right wing, you think that fascism must mean left wing because Hitler named his Nazi party "National Socialists". I'm right, aren't I? C'mon now, fess up professor. The reason for this common error is that the American political landscape is still too close to WW2 to admit that it is fascist. It tells its adherents that because both Stalin and Hitler were military dictators, all dictators must be leftists. There is no such thing as a bad right wing government. This is your understanding, isn't it Colpy?

I have forgotten more history and political science than you have ever absorbed. Your little rant about fascism proves that quite adequately, you really should STFU until you get an actual education. You are simply making a fool out of yourself.
 

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You started it .......if you can't handle the heat, don't throw matches the tinder.

I do know what a fascist is.....and I am aware of the political philosophy that goes by that name. I also know that anyone that calls the GOP "fascist" doesn't have a ****ing clue what they are talking about.

I have forgotten more history and political science than you have ever absorbed. Your little rant about fascism proves that quite adequately, you really should STFU until you get an actual education. You are simply making a fool out of yourself.


Tell you what, Colpy. Let's start over. I am not aware of attacking you first. I thought you attacked first. In any event I am willing to forgive and forget. How does that sound?

 

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Tell you what, Colpy. Let's start over. I am not aware of attacking you first. I thought you attacked first. In any event I am willing to forgive and forget. How does that sound?

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Ooops. Personal attacks. My bad.
Ever been to Scotland, tober? Ever watched the sunset over the strand at Ullapool (there's an amazing pizza place there. No haggis)? Ever wandered the grounds at Glamis? Walked down the Royal Mile and chatted with the security guy at Holyrood? Driven out to the ferry to Iona, on that crazy one-lane road on Mull with the lay-bys so people can pass? Sang with the Tartan Army?
 
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Ever been to Scotland, tober? Ever watched the sunset over the strand at Ullapool (there's an amazing pizza place there. No haggis). Ever wandered the grounds at Glamis? Walked down the Royal Mile and chatted with the security guy at Holyrood? Driven out to the ferry to Iona, on that crazy one-lane road on Mull with the lay-bys so people can pass? Sang with the Tartan Army?

Nope- Want to go the Edinburgh for the Tattoo. My neighbor and very good friend had his brother & sister in law over for his sons wedding. Complete with Kilts and all. A great time we had at that.
Fine people they are. He sailed to mostly Africa after the war. Good chat on that.
My life's love wants to go to Greece and after she saw the thread on Malta & Italy wants to go there as well.
Me i have no issue I asked how many jobs I should apply for?:lol:
I would think 6 weeks min is what is needed. No problem with that.
 

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Thanx for making my point, Eagle.

tober; said:
The whole modern neo-conservative ideology is funny because it is so contradictory. Try asking a conservative Yank how he can reconcile calling for the smallest central government and largest military in the world? I have yet to receive any reply, let alone a sensible reply to that question.



The great irony here being that right wingers always call for having an armed citizenry as a check against government abuse. Yet they also call for having the largest and most powerfully armed military in the world which is a part of and controlled by the government. This is hypocrisy of the worse kind.

If right wingers were so principled by demanding 2d Amendment rights because our Founding Fathers created it (which, of course they did and which I affirm) then they should be equally adamant about not having a standing army just like the Founders demanded. When anyone says that the Pentagon and military industrial complex should be dissolved (again, in a manner consistent with the teachings of the Founders) the lunatic right wingers go ape sh1t.

But, as always, there is nothing of principle in right wingers. Case in point: Katrina as we have discussed innumerable times on this forum. When the SHTF, the right wingers came on bended knee to the government and got bailed out. And it will happen again soon enough ...
 

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The whole modern neo-conservative ideology is funny because it is so contradictory. Try asking a conservative Yank how he can reconcile calling for the smallest central government and largest military in the world? I have yet to receive any reply, let alone a sensible reply to that question.
You clearly don't understand the argument.
 

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Thanx for making my point, Eagle.







The great irony here being that right wingers always call for having an armed citizenry as a check against government abuse. Yet they also call for having the largest and most powerfully armed military in the world which is a part of and controlled by the government. This is hypocrisy of the worse kind.

If right wingers were so principled by demanding 2d Amendment rights because our Founding Fathers created it (which, of course they did and which I affirm) then they should be equally adamant about not having a standing army just like the Founders demanded. When anyone says that the Pentagon and military industrial complex should be dissolved (again, in a manner consistent with the teachings of the Founders) the lunatic right wingers go ape sh1t.

But, as always, there is nothing of principle in right wingers. Case in point: Katrina as we have discussed innumerable times on this forum. When the SHTF, the right wingers came on bended knee to the government and got bailed out. And it will happen again soon enough ...