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Merge the Syria Threads

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Arrr. Run into the harbour, shiver the tops'ls, give her three brisk broadsides, grab the gold, wenches, and grog, fill and be on yer way. That's how ye raid a port!
 
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Arrrg... whats a man on report taking me rum rations! What type of ship we be runnin' here.

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Britain is the ONLY major economy which has met its aid targets for Syria, which isn't much of a surprise.​

The likes of Germany, US, Canada, France and Italy have all failed to meet their Syria aid targets....​

Surprise, surprise! Britain is the only major economy to have paid MORE than its 'fair share' towards aid in Syria, according to Oxfam​


  • This year the UK has delivered close to £200million of aid to the region
  • It puts Britain's contribution at 154 per cent of its 'fair share'
  • Research has been carried out by charity Oxfam


By Tamara Cohen



Britain is the only major economy to have given far more than its ‘fair share’ of humanitarian aid to Syria, a report has found.​

This year, the UK has delivered close to £200million of aid to the region where the civil war has cost over 100,000 lives and left around 2million people homeless.​

It puts Britain’s contribution at 154 per cent of our ‘fair share’, which would be only £125million, according to an analysis by Oxfam of how much money countries are giving to the crisis, relative to their wealth. ​
This year, the UK has delivered close to £200million of aid to the region where the civil war has cost over 100,000 lives ​


Despite having already exceeded this level by £68million, the amount delivered so far is only half the £400million the government has pledged to hand over since the conflict began two and a half years ago.​
The UK has paid a staggering 154 per cent of its 'fair share' towards aid in Syria ​

David Cameron, who lost a Commons vote on military strikes against the regime of dictator Bashar al-Assad, has promised the UK – the second largest donor to the conflict after the US - will ‘lead the world’ on getting food and medical aid to victims of the conflict. ​

By contrast other major economies have fallen short – with France and Italy handing over just 47 per cent of their fair share, at £67million and £53million respectively. ​

None of the rest of the G20 group of countries – including the US, Canada, Japan and Germany – have met their target except the UK and Saudi Arabia according to Oxfam.​

The US is the largest donor delivering over £500million this year. But given its wealth and population this is only 63 per cent of its fair share which was put at £800million.​

Russia – a close ally of Assad – gave just 3 per cent of what would be expected given the size of its economy, the report found.​

But bottom of the list was New Zealand, whose economy has grown faster than expected this year, but has given just £62,000– 1 per cent of its fair share calculated at £6.7million. ​

Mr Cameron said earlier this month: ‘We are already the second largest aid donor in delivering the humanitarian aid that is so needed both in Syria and in the neighbouring countries like Jordan and Turkey. We’ll go on doing that.’ ​
Despite having already exceeded this level by £68million, the amount delivered so far is only half the £400million the government has pledged to hand over ​

He said the aid given so far had saved ‘tens of thousands of lives’, and that he would push other countries to do more at the recent G20 summit, however many have failed to act. ​

Claire Seaward, Oxfam’s campaigns manager for the Syria response, said: ‘The crisis has got a lot worse this year and there are still a lot more needs on the ground. Although our government has given 154 per cent, we would still expect them to give more.’ ​


David Cameron has promised the UK will 'lead the world' on getting food and medical aid to victims of the conflict​

The charity analysed each countries’ Gross National Income (GNI), which is its wealth per head of population, and how much of the millions of pounds it has pledged have actually been delivered to aid workers on the ground.​

The list of nations includes 28 traditional donor countries, and also Middle Eastern nations who have donated to Syria mainly Gulf countries which support the rebels. ​

Only eight countries were gauged to be giving sufficient funds, with oil-rich Kuwait the most generous at more than four and a half times its fair share – at £200million. Other countries which exceeded their fair share were Luxemburg, Denmark, Norway and Sweden. ​

Oxfam’s figures include all the aid given directly and via the United Nations, European Union and charities such as the Red Cross and Oxfam so far this year. ​

The head of Oxfam’s Syria programme, Colette Fearon, said: ‘While economic times are tough, we are facing the largest man-made humanitarian disaster in two decades and we have to seriously address it.​

‘The scale of this crisis is unprecedented and some countries must start to show their concerns to the crisis in Syria by putting their hands in their pockets. This is not the time for pledges. The situation demands committed funds in order to save lives.’​


 
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So how much has the West and the 5 Arab nations contributed towards war in Syria, I would bet it is a lot more than their 'humanitarian donations', like the ingrediants of sarin gas to be more specific.

Evidence Shows Insurgents Responsible for Gas Attack
(in part)
On September 18, Russia Today (RT) headlined "Russia to provide UNSC with data for chem weapons' use by Syrian rebels."
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said:
"We have plenty of reports on chemical weapons use, which indicate that the opposition regularly resorts to provocations in order to trigger strikes and intervention against Syria."
"There’s a lot of data. It’s widely available on the Internet. This data is presented in the report, which our experts put together in association with the use of chemical weapons in Aleppo in March this year."
"Theres also plenty of data on the incidents that occurred in August in Ghouta, near Damascus."
"All of this will be considered in the Security Council, together with a report, which was submitted by UN experts, confirming that chemical weapons were used."
Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov spent two days in Damascus. He met with Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem and President Bashar al-Assad.
Voice of Russia headlined "Damascus provides Russia with new info on Syrian opposition's use of chemical weapons - Ryabkov."
Syria provided "very convincing" evidence, he said. It shows insurgents' responsibility for Ghouta's gas attack.
"There is some confusion in this regard," said Ryabkov. "We received additional proof, which had been gathered and analyzed by the Syrian authorities."
 
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Altogether that is still a few billion short of what is spend to bring destruction to all Syrians, what is that a guilt payment?
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They are doing pretty good destroying each other. Everyone is flocking to Syria to kill each other. I never thought I'd see the day when just about every group is represented and fighting each other.

FSA vs SAA
Al Queda vs Hezbollah
Al Queda vs FSA
Islamists vs Secular

The list goes on and on. It is Beruit again on a nationwide scale. Money is coming in from everywhere as well as troops. It is brutal and grinding. I listened to NPR and the consensus seems that the SAA cannot stop the rebellion and the Rebels can't topple Assad.
 
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EagleSmack said:
They are doing pretty good destroying each other. Everyone is flocking to Syria to kill each other. I never thought I'd see the day when just about every group is represented and fighting each other.

FSA vs SAA
Al Queda vs Hezbollah
Al Queda vs FSA
Islamists vs Secular

The list goes on and on. It is Beruit again on a nationwide scale. Money is coming in from everywhere as well as troops. It is brutal and grinding. I listened to NPR and the consensus seems that the SAA cannot stop the rebellion and the Rebels can't topple Assad.
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So they drown each other in blood. I don't see that as a bad thing.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
So they drown each other in blood. I don't see that as a bad thing.
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What I am hoping for is a reformation. For it to be so bad and such loss that they will decide, as Europeans did at the end of the Dark Ages, that no states shall go to war over religion.
 
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