The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it

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Goober

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Russia and China draw red line in sand..

Putin warns Russia could come to Syria's aid over US strike | Fox News

and China threatens it will undermine global economy if USA strikes Syria.

The American People Really Don't Want To Bomb Syria (POLLS)

Russia kept Snowden, can they keep Obama??

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The Russian will replace and provide more weapons.
China- They are an exporting country. Google Pork and riots to see how fine a line they are trying to walk in China.
But China if they do will raise the ire of Nationalists and guide them accordingly. They have to distract from all the corruption.
Problem is it can easily spin out of control. Mob rule can go in any number of directions and usually in the one you did not want.

Interesting article. Makes for a good read in my opinion.

Making a Virtue Out of a Necessity - By Aaron David Miller | Foreign Policy
 

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Syrian Girl Clears The Air on Chemical Attack in Syria - YouTube

Hey Goober,

If you think that the war is just over there in the Middle East, don't..

The minute the USA sends cruise missiles do expect retaliation right here in Canada and the USA.. (More in the USA)

The terrorist attacks will begin right here in North America...
Tell me something I do not know.
I have stated that for years. They will only increase in the next decades.
And the dead will number in the hundreds or thousands.
 

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FLASHBACK: Biden Accuses Romney Of Wanting “To Go To War In Syria”…



And yet in the end it’s Obama and Biden who are pushing us into a war nobody wants to get involved with.
Sept. 2, 2012, YORK, Pa. (AP) — Vice President Joe Biden said Sunday that Republican rival Mitt Romney is “ready to go to war in Syria and Iran” while hurting the middle class.

The warning came during a campaign stop in York, Pa., designed to promote President Barack Obama’s economic policies among white, working-class voters. The thrust of Biden’s pitch has been that America is digging out from the 2008 economic collapse and that Romney would take the country backward. But Biden, a foreign policy heavyweight, also cautioned voters that Romney would adopt policies that favor confrontation over cooperation.

“He said it was a mistake to end the war in Iraq and bring all of our warriors home,” Biden said of Romney. “He said it was a mistake to set an end date for our warriors in Afghanistan and bring them home. He implies by the speech that he’s ready to go to war in Syria and Iran.”

Biden made the claim about Syria and Iran without offering specifics; his campaign did not immediately respond to a request for details and he did not use similar language on Syria and Iran at a later stop in Green Bay, Wis.

Keep reading…
 

DaSleeper

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Tell me something I do not know.
I have stated that for years. They will only increase in the next decades.
And the dead will number in the hundreds or thousands.
Yo, Here up north I'm safe with my 30-06 and scope, anyone riding a camel can't get within 300yards of me....;-)
 

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Yo, Here up north I'm safe with my 30-06 and scope, anyone riding a camel can't get within 300yards of me....;-)

They would never make it past Petawawa. You would only have to deal with raggedy a-s-s stragglers.
Remember- Dip the ammo in Pork first.
 
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Obama is now channeling Bush & his sidekick Rumsfeld
The Bombing will be substantial.
Syria strikes as much about Iran and North Korea as Assad, Obama administration says | National Post

WASHINGTON — In declaring Syria a national security threat, President Barack Obama is warning as much about the leaders of Iran and North Korea as about Bashar Assad.

And administration officials say America’s credibility with those countries will be an immediate casualty if the U.S. fails to respond to Syria now with military action.

It’s a connection that’s not immediately clear to most Americans – especially after the White House refused to send military support earlier in the Syrian war.

Following an Aug. 21 chemical weapons attack outside Damascus, the White House declared Syria’s civil war a top risk to American interests. The administration says that attack killed 1,429. Other estimates are lower.

The war, now in its third year, has so far killed more than 100,000 people.

Obama pressed skeptical lawmakers to give him the authority to use U.S. military force against Syria during his overseas trip while the administration struggled to rally international support for intervention in an intractable civil war.

Obama was making calls to members of Congress while he attends an economic summit in St. Petersburg, Russia, Ben Rhodes, Obama’s deputy national security adviser, told reporters on Thursday. The president spoke to a bipartisan group of five lawmakers on Wednesday.

“He is going to be doing outreach on the Hill,” Rhodes said of the president’s lobbying during the two-day summit in Russia.
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Syrian Girl Clears The Air on Chemical Attack in Syria - YouTube

Hey Goober,

If you think that the war is just over there in the Middle East, don't..

The minute the USA sends cruise missiles do expect retaliation right here in Canada and the USA.. (More in the USA)

The terrorist attacks will begin right here in North America...



If Obama/Kerry don't get their war there will definitely be more false flag "attacks" in the USA and abroad. Of course, these will be staged by the CIA and/or its puppets in order to further stimulate more war hysteria.
 

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Britain has fired both barrels back at Russia after it dismissed Britain as nothing but a "small island" at the G8 summit in St Petersburg.

Mr Cameron said Britain saved Europe from fascism, abolished slavery and 'invented most of the things worth inventing'.

He refuted Russian claims that 'no one pays any attention to' the country he leads, insisting its art, sport, literature, diplomacy, philosophy, music, economy and military put it among the great nations of the world.

And he even ridiculed that the UK was just one island, declaring he did not want the people of Northern Island, Orkney or Shetland to 'feel left out' from his tribute to the nation's great history.

Tory MP Henry Smith wrote on Twitter: 'Putin really is a tosser.'

'Britain might be a small island but it saved Europe from fascism, abolished slavery and 'invented anything worth inventing': Furious Cameron hits back at Russia's taunt that no-one pays any attention to the UK






  • Prime Minister says no other country has a 'prouder history, bigger heart or greater resilience'
  • UK leads the world in art, sport, music, philosophy and diplomacy, he says
  • Tribute likened to Hugh Grant's 'small country' speech in film Love Actually

  • [*]Russia mocked the UK's size and boasted that oligarchs 'bought Chelsea'
    [*]Jibe sparked furious response from Britain at G20 summit in St Petersburg
    [*]Tory MP Henry Smith writes on Twitter: 'Putin really is a tosser'

By James Chapman, In St Petersburg and Matt Chorley, In London
6 September 2013
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Blast: Prime Minister David Cameron, pictured today, hit back at Russia's dismissal of Britain as a small island

Furious David Cameron today fired back at Russia's dismissal of Britain as a 'small island', reeling off a passionate, patriotic defence of the nation's global strengths and triumphs.

Suggesting his tribute to Great Britain be 'set to music', Mr Cameron argued it had saved Europe from fascism, abolished slavery and 'invented most of the things worth inventing'.

The Prime Minister, speaking at the G20 in St Petersburg, refuted Russian claims that 'no one pays any attention to' the country he leads, insisting its art, sport, literature, diplomacy, philosophy, music, economy and military put it among the great nations of the world.

And he even ridiculed that the UK was just one island, declaring he did not want the people of Northern Island, Orkney or Shetland to 'feel left out' from his tribute to the nation's great history.

The extraordinary diplomatic row erupted last night when Russia dismissed Britain as ‘just a small island no one pays any attention to'.

It meant the summit of world leaders descended into acrimony over planned military strikes on Syria.

In an astonishing attack, Vladimir Putin mocked the UK’s size and influence, and boasted that Soviet oligarchs had ‘bought Chelsea’ (the west London football giants are owned by Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich).

Tory MP Henry Smith wrote on Twitter: 'Putin really is a tosser.'

As the controversy erupted, Russian officials flatly denied the remarks – attributed to President Putin’s official spokesman Dmitry Peskov – had ever been made.

But the denial did nothing to contain Mr Cameron's fury, as he declared: 'Britain may be a small island, but I would challenge anyone to find a country with a prouder history, a bigger heart or greater resilience.'

He argued that Britain had 'helped to clear the European continent of fascism' and had remained 'resolute' throughout the Second World War.

'Britain is an island that helped to abolish slavery, that has invented most of the things worth inventing, including every sport currently played around the world, that still today is responsible for art, literature and music that delights the entire world.

'We are very proud of everything we do as a small island - a small island that has the sixth-largest economy, the fourth best-funded military, some of the most effective diplomats, the proudest history, one of the best records for art and literature and contribution to philosophy and world civilisation.'

The row represents an extraordinary breach of protocol, particularly as Russia is hosting the G20 meeting.

President Putin, a belligerent ally of Syrian tyrant Bashar Assad, has been revelling in British MPs' rejection last week of UK participation in US-led military action.

But the Kremlin’s decision to rub Mr Cameron’s nose in it – with the Prime Minister on Russian soil – has plunged Anglo-Russian relations to a new low.


Excuse me! David Cameron finds German Chancellor Angela Merkel has stolen his seat


Defiant: Mr Cameron today chaired a meeting on the humanitarian situation in Syria on the sidelines of the G20 summit


Bullish: Mr Cameron and his senior officials arrived at the second day of the G20 determined to rebuff the jibe from Russia

Last night, arriving at the summit venue in St Petersburg, President Obama strode in alone rather than walking in with President Putin.


The war of words with Britain came as Mr Cameron continued to make the case for intervention in Syria despite his defeat in Parliament last week.

Mr Cameron today ruled out any prospect of agreement over Syria at the G20 summit.


He said President Putin remains 'miles away' from the truth of Bashar Assad's use of chemical weapons on his own people.

'This G20 was never going to reach conclusions on Syria,' said the Prime Minister. 'The divisions are too great.

'The Russian position that, as Putin has said, if it is proved it is Assad he will take a different view but he is fairly clear that it is the opposition, is miles away from what I think the truth is and miles away from what lots of us believe.'

Mr Cameron and Mr Putin held one-on-one talks in the early hours of this morning lasting 35 minutes.

The PM added: 'He says to me that he would like to see further evidence of regime culpability and we will go on providing evidence of regime culpability, as will the Americans and others, but I think it will take a lot to change his mind.'

The premiers of Turkey, Canada, Germany and Italy all joined Mr Obama and Mr Cameron in making the case at last night's dinner for a robust international response to Assad's alleged breach of treaties banning the use of chemical weapons.



A SMALL ISLAND WITH A GREAT HISTORY: CAMERON'S FULL TRIBUTE

'Britain may be a small island, but I wouldchallenge anyone to find a country with a prouder history, a bigger heart or greater resilience.

'Britain is an island that has helped to clear the European continent of fascism - and was resolute in doing that throughout World War Two.

'Britain is an island that helped to abolish slavery, that has invented most of the things worth inventing, including every sport currently played around the world, that still today is responsible for art, literature and music that delights the entire world.

'We are very proud of everything we do as a small island - a small island that has the sixth-largest economy, the fourth best-funded military, some of the most effective diplomats, the proudest history, one of the best records for art and literature and contribution to philosophy and world civilisation.

'For the people who live in Northern Ireland, I should say we are not just an island, we are a collection of islands. I don't want anyone in Shetland or Orkney to feel left out by this.


'I'm thinking of setting this to music.'


 
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Too bad they can't muster the testicular fortitude to help enforce the international convention against poison gas. Particularly ironic considering how badly their own forces suffered from poison gas in WWI.

Steady, reliable allies are a blessing. I wish we had some.
 

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Too bad they can't muster the testicular fortitude to help enforce the international convention against poison gas. Particularly ironic considering how badly their own forces suffered from poison gas in WWI.

Steady, reliable allies are a blessing. I wish we had some.

That country which supposedly has no balls was the one which fought alongside American soldiers - and had many troops killed and injured by the Taliban and the Americans - in Afganistan and Iraq.

And that country which has no balls was the country which fought Nazi Germany ON ITS OWN in the early 1940s whilst we were having our cities bombed and whilst the US was still mustering up the courage to enter the war.
 

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Too bad they can't muster the testicular fortitude to help enforce the international convention against poison gas. Particularly ironic considering how badly their own forces suffered from poison gas in WWI.

Steady, reliable allies are a blessing. I wish we had some.

Now Now, you still have Germany to lean on...


Keep your chin up, Angela...
 
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War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Once Britain and The Sixth Coalition defeated Napoleon in 1814, France and Britain became allies. Britain ended the trade restrictions and the impressment of American sailors, thus removing two more causes of the war. After two years of warfare, the major causes of the war had disappeared. Neither side had a reason to continue or a chance of gaining a decisive success that would compel their opponents to cede territory or advantageous peace terms.[82] As a result of this stalemate, the two countries signed the Treaty of Ghent on December 24, 1814. News of the peace treaty took two months to reach the U.S., during which fighting continued. The war fostered a spirit of national unity and an "Era of Good Feelings" in the U.S.,[83] as well as in Canada.[84] It opened a long era of peaceful relations between the United States and the British Empire.[85]

Now back on topic. Let the Arabs fund and fight the War. Turkey, Saudi and Egypt have large military's.
Let them get the blood on their hands.
Because after winning the usual purging of Militants will take place.

Most of the so-called "Americans" that the British impressed into the Royal Navy at that time were actually British citizens holding forged American passports.

Britain "impressing American soldiers into the Royal Navy" was just a piece of fiction invented by the Americans as an excuse to go to war with Britain. It hardly happened at all.

Don't believe everything that American historians say.
 

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War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Once Britain and The Sixth Coalition defeated Napoleon in 1814, France and Britain became allies. Britain ended the trade restrictions and the impressment of American sailors, thus removing two more causes of the war. After two years of warfare, the major causes of the war had disappeared. Neither side had a reason to continue or a chance of gaining a decisive success that would compel their opponents to cede territory or advantageous peace terms.[82] As a result of this stalemate, the two countries signed the Treaty of Ghent on December 24, 1814. News of the peace treaty took two months to reach the U.S., during which fighting continued. The war fostered a spirit of national unity and an "Era of Good Feelings" in the U.S.,[83] as well as in Canada.[84] It opened a long era of peaceful relations between the United States and the British Empire.[85]

Just not seeing how the US lost in that post. But there is some other good material in the wiki that seems missing here.

Now back on topic. Let the Arabs fund and fight the War. Turkey, Saudi and Egypt have large military's.
Let them get the blood on their hands.
Because after winning the usual purging of Militants will take place.

Agreed