Denmark Refuses to Deport Muslim Who Raped 10-Year-Old

[EagleSmack]

Well if you're not sentencing them, or giving them short sentences surely the incarceration rates are going to be low...true?

Why wouldn't a nation have a low prison population when a child rapist gets six years? Hell that is easy time.

 

[karrie]

Well if you're not sentencing them, or giving them short sentences surely the incarceration rates are going to be low...true?

Why wouldn't a nation have a low prison population when a child rapist gets six years? Hell that is easy time.

True, but violent criminals are not the portion of your prison population I was discussing, and you know it.

Community safety is the reason for prisons. He is a prime case of someone who should be facing solid sentences in the interest of community safety.

 

[Sal]

True, but violent criminals are not the portion of your prison population I was discussing, and you know it.

Community safety is the reason for prisons. He is a prime case of someone who should be facing solid sentences in the interest of community safety.

quick question for you karrie, do you believe that prison should be about punishment or community safety or a combo?

 

[karrie]

quick question for you karrie, do you believe that prison should be about punishment or community safety or a combo?

The only way to have a prison be about community safety is for it to be about rehabilitation, imo. Doesn't need to be cushy, candy *** rehabilitation, but if you make it about punishment, you'd better be keeping that person in for good, and never letting them out to be my neighbour again.

 

[Sal]

The only way to have a prison be about community safety is for it to be about rehabilitation, imo. Doesn't need to be cushy, candy *** rehabilitation, but if you make it about punishment, you'd better be keeping that person in for good, and never letting them out to be my neighbour again.

okay, I agree....thanks ♦

 

[EagleSmack]

True, but violent criminals are not the portion of your prison population I was discussing, and you know it.

I know it. I wasn't saying that. But they are surely part of the incarceration rate. That guy never would have seen the light of day in the US and surely would be counted.

Community safety is the reason for prisons. He is a prime case of someone who should be facing solid sentences in the interest of community safety.

This is where I disagree. Prison is also a punishment for crimes committed. The men from ENRON, the Walker Brothers (infamous US Navy spies from the 1980s serving life), Bernie Maddoff... our streets would be safe with them on it. They didn't harm anyone physically. But they darn well should be punished for what they did. Even the Manson Women from the Tate/LaBianca murders. I doubt they would be a threat to anyone in their 60s.

 

[Nuggler]

A six year sentence for child rape.

Well look at the bright side... one less person in prison.

The really bright side, if there is one, is that he might not make it through the six................hope hope.

 

[karrie]

I know it. I wasn't saying that. But they are surely part of the incarceration rate. That guy never would have seen the light of day in the US and surely would be counted.



This is where I disagree. Prison is also a punishment for crimes committed. The men from ENRON, the Walker Brothers (infamous US Navy spies from the 1980s serving life), Bernie Maddoff... our streets would be safe with them on it. They didn't harm anyone physically. But they darn well should be punished for what they did. Even the Manson Women from the Tate/LaBianca murders. I doubt they would be a threat to anyone in their 60s.

Removing someone's freedom IS the punishment. What do you propose doing beyond that? Anything more on top of that just creates more problems. So, once you've imprisoned them, no, I don't think you need to pile more punishment on. As for the Madoffs of the world, until they have shown some sign of remorse or rehabilitation, no, the community is not safe with them walking free and ruining people. But, locking them up and counting on that being good enough? Do you really think Madoff would come out of prison and never steal again? Or just be smarter about it?

But this man is none of those cases, and there IS a thread open, and fresh, for this topic.

 

[captain morgan]

People have the option to not involve themselves with Madoff.

The ten year old Danish girl that was raped by this jack*ss didn't have that luxury

 

[EagleSmack]

Removing someone's freedom IS the punishment. What do you propose doing beyond that? Anything more on top of that just creates more problems. So, once you've imprisoned them, no, I don't think you need to pile more punishment on.

Are you talking about the length of a sentence? I don't propose doing anything more than that nor did I ever suggest it.

As for the Madoffs of the world, until they have shown some sign of remorse or rehabilitation, no, the community is not safe with them walking free and ruining people.

Who is going to trust Bernie Maddoff to run a lemonade stand?

But, locking them up and counting on that being good enough? Do you really think Madoff would come out of prison and never steal again? Or just be smarter about it?

I'm not sure. Who would hire him?

Lets take the Walkers. They will never again have access to Top Secret material. Let them out?

 

[karrie]

I confused your reply with the issue Sal and I were talking about, since she was discussing punishment vs. rehabilitation, my bad.

But as for the Walker's, I'm not familiar with them, and this isn't the thread for them. Like I said, you started this discussion in another thread, that is still fresh and open.

This thread is about whether or not they should deport rapists.

Unless the Walkers were rapists who are facing deportation, you're kind of muddling the two issues.

 

[taxslave]

Rapists should be publicly denutted.

 

[Goober]

He should have been deported. Back to Somalia.