9.5 million litres of toxic waste spills in Northern Alberta

[petros]

It's a terrible thing. Had this been an EnCana spill the egg would be on the Tha faces.


Federal Funding Helps Dene Tha' First Nation Take Historic First Step Into Oil and Gas Drilling Business

 

[karrie]

It's a terrible thing. Had this been an EnCana spill the egg would be on the Tha faces.


Federal Funding Helps Dene Tha' First Nation Take Historic First Step Into Oil and Gas Drilling Business

Why's that? As a contractor to EnCana, they'd have every right to still complain if EnCana did something like this.

They also, being rig owners, would have had no control over EnCana's pipelines.

 

[Tonington]

Ya might want to think twice about using the Gulf spill as your benchmark - the vast oil slick that was to envelope the entire South/Gulf coast never came to be... In fact, looks like Gaia really out did herself on self-cleaning that spill.

Hardly. BP dispersed the oil into tiny droplets using Corexit. Toxicology studies have since shown that the use of Corexit increased the toxicity by a factor of 52:
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/science-environment/112898-bp-oil-dispersant-made-oil.html

The Deepwater Horizon disaster was a big deal, dead ecosystems, deformed fish, dying mammals, it was a disaster in every sense of the word:
Three years after BP oil spill, USF research finds massive die-off | Tampa Bay Times
Gulf seafood deformities alarm scientists - Features - Al Jazeera English

Don't know if it's purposeful, but for someone who has been posting about the harm of stretching the truth in one direction, you seem to be bending over backwards in the other direction.

 

[L Gilbert]

And nice juicy cheques from oil and gas companies.

That makes picking up the village and plunking it down somewhere else really easy yup. Does nothing for learning about the new neighborhood, learning the habits of the new critters, etc.
You really don't think it would have been better that spills just didn't happen in the first place?

http://flash.lakeheadu.ca/~mshannon/Grigalunas_Brown_Oil_spill_effect_estimates.pdf

In 2005, I think, a CN derailment spilled some 300,000 gallons of oil on Wabamoon Lake (or whatever it's called). The cleanup alone cost CN about $28 million and insurance sucked up the rest of the cost. And that is just the cleanup, never mind the economic impact on the local economy.Nice, ain't it?

Take a look at section 8 and 9 here: http://www.raincoast.org/library/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Volume-7B.pdf

 

[captain morgan]

The area they salted is dead.

Bbbbbbut what about the aquifers? The trees? Gaia?

Oh, and by the way - it'll come back. A lot more slowly as it receives far less moisture and especially sun, but the minute that they raze that deck, give it a season and voila! they will be bitching about all the weeds on that spot

How big an area does 9.5 million litres cover in muskeg?

I'd say about 15 sqft.

It's a terrible thing. Had this been an EnCana spill the egg would be on the Tha faces.


Federal Funding Helps Dene Tha' First Nation Take Historic First Step Into Oil and Gas Drilling Business

Big correction here Petros - It's a fact that the Dene drilling entities use eco-friendly techniques... Rainbows and unicorns if I recall correctly

 

[petros]

Why's that? As a contractor to EnCana, they'd have every right to still complain if EnCana did something like this.

They also, being rig owners, would have had no control over EnCana's pipelines.

It means the Tha are an EVIL OIL COPMPANY

 

[L Gilbert]

Got a losing argument, start joking. SOP is right on.

 

[captain morgan]

Don't know if it's purposeful, but for someone who has been posting about the harm of stretching the truth in one direction, you seem to be bending over backwards in the other direction.

Part of it is sarcasm in response to the over-the-top scenarios delivered speculating on the wasteland that WILL be the future in Zama Lake.

However, if you recall, the same apocalyptic predictions were made of the BP spill that was supposed to result in a massive oil slick throughout the entire Gulf stretching from the Texas panhandle to the Florida keys.... Beaches painted with goo and a perpetual clean-up of the dead marine life that was to wash ashore daily.

Didn't happen though, did it?

 

[karrie]

It means the Tha are an EVIL OIL COPMPANY

Oh, does it? What oil company do they own?

 

[petros]

Who was given money? What were they given money to do?

 

[Zipperfish]

This sort of "suck it up buttercup" attitude is a primary reason that the majority og BC doesn't want the pipeline.

 

[karrie]

Who was given money? What were they given money to do?

You posted the article, I thought you'd know what it said.

The Dene Tha were given funding to buy a 50% partnership in two rigs which will contract for EnCana.

 

[petros]

When you buy rigs and drill for oil and gas what are you? A restaurant?

 

[karrie]

When you buy rigs and drill for oil and gas what are you? A restaurant?

You're a rig company, why?

 

[petros]

A rig company? What kind of rigs? Drilling for what?

 

[karrie]

Why's that? As a contractor to EnCana, they'd have every right to still complain if EnCana did something like this.

They also, being rig owners, would have had no control over EnCana's pipelines.

bump.

A rig company? What kind of rigs? Drilling for what?

Does being a farmer make you Monsanto?

 

[petros]

When you put on skates,padding and a helmet, use a hockey stick to chase a puck and try to put it in the goal are you playing football?

 

[karrie]

When you put on skates,padding and a helmet, use a hockey stick to chase a puck and try to put it in the goal are you playing football?

Nope. But, conversely, when you own a drilling rig, you are not an oil company.

 

[petros]

As PARTNERS they are an oil company. The whole damn Band is now an oil company.

 

[karrie]

If you make up a new definition for oil company then I suppose you're right. But if you went and told all the drilling companies in the oil patch that they are, in fact, oil companies and now responsible for pipelines, they'd laugh at you.