wow, a guy that finally gets it...I am sick to death of men who lay this all upon the woman...if they are sooooooooooooo pro life keep your freaking pecker in your pants...otherwise stfu.
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Better yet, Sal, have the lil; devils 'pasturised'
Reversible male contraception method lasts 10 years
I'd make the procedure free for every 16 year old teen...
the thing that has always made me so angry about this whole topic and the thing that switched me from pro life to pro woman's choice was these freaking do-gooders who tell her to keep her legs crossed like she is a ***** and lay no blame upon the maleBetter yet, Sal, have the lil; devils 'pasturised'
Reversible male contraception method lasts 10 years
I'd make the procedure free for every 16 year old teen...
and they are the very ones who are unwilling to support this woman while she raises this child. It sickens me. This poor kid gets left with someone who doesn't want them and will never put them first and then when they end up in a gang robbing pillaging murdering and raping they want to give him the death penalty.
there is no lucid connection in their mind...they don't get it because there is no rational thought involved
If men were the ones to giving birth....do you think things would go as far as late term abortion?
And they say that men reason with their D*ck....:roll:
And you can take that one any way you like!!
And they say that men reason with their D*ck....:roll:
And you can take that one any way you like!!
If men were the ones giving birth the world would have ended due to lack of population...
This is blatantly false, and you know.
Pregnancy can be fatal. To stand by, and watch a woman die, when you can save her life by ending the pregnancy, IS doing harm. Your assertion stands up only when it is an abortion of convenience. But like almost all medical procedures, the fact that it can be done out of convenience does not negate the fact that it is sometimes essential to save a life.
Standing by and watching two lives end, in order to not abort a pregnancy, is inhumane.
Pregnancy is not an illness. It is natural and healthy.. and vital for the continuation of humanity.
You and i both know that 99.99% of abortions have NOTHING to do with the life endangering health of the mother. The infants receive the death sentence because they are INCONVENIENT.. they are expensive, time consuming, less than perfectly formed, the wrong sex or the wrong timing for a 'designer family'.. just a burden and an intrusion on a lifestyle.
With the state of medical science today the rates of death during childbirth are miniscule. The only time the issue comes up is with certain forms of cancer, extremely rare in women of childbearing age, where the pregnancy could intrude into certain radical forms of treatment with chemotherapy or surgery. In fact abortions in those circumstances were NEVER illegal.. and were not the target of the legalization and de-regulation of abortion in the early 70s which declared the murder of her unborn children a human right of the 'mother'.
So get real Karrie. You know pro-life advocates would support a return to laws as they existed when this was one of the few legitimate reasons for abortion (not speaking of its morality). That reduces your argument to zero.
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Yeah, Frigidcreek likes stretching things besides invoking magical and superstitious beings, too.
Coldstream, I have a question for you.
A friend of mine has a son who is autistic. At 18 he is still in diapers. He can not be left alone, he becomes agitated and quite violent at times. My friend's husband has had to take early retirement as my girlfriend has been diagnosed with parkinsons and cannot handle her son alone. Her husband has already had one stroke.
The government gives them thousands of dollars in aid but because of his extreme needs they are thousands and thousands of dollars in debt. They have no life and have never had a life. Most couples would not have made it together but they have. I would have killed myself rather than live the type of life they live.
Is this okay with you...sanctity of life for what? I am truly curious to hear the right to lifers answers. I will also respect your thoughts and will not attack your answer I just want to hear your justification at the destruction and misery caused by such a situation.
A friend of mine has a son who is autistic. At 18 he is still in diapers. He can not be left alone, he becomes agitated and quite violent at times. My friend's husband has had to take early retirement as my girlfriend has been diagnosed with parkinsons and cannot handle her son alone. Her husband has already had one stroke.
The government gives them thousands of dollars in aid but because of his extreme needs they are thousands and thousands of dollars in debt. They have no life and have never had a life. Most couples would not have made it together but they have. I would have killed myself rather than live the type of life they live.
Is this okay with you...sanctity of life for what? I am truly curious to hear the right to lifers answers. I will also respect your thoughts and will not attack your answer I just want to hear your justification at the destruction and misery caused by such a situation.
Yep, those would all be valid. Not just sure at what stage they are identified.
One of these days with a greater and greater population and fewer financial resources, hard decisions are going to have to be made, who do we save and who do we let go.
Potential "fatality's" are few and far between. If you have stats to prove otherwise, post them! Otherwise your argument is a red herring. One used by the pro murder crowd on a regular basis.
OoooooooK.... and your point is what? That they should have had the boy killed so that they wouldn't have been inconvenienced by his birth?
That says more about you than them.
I'm still not sure what your point is. Again, what would you have preferred that he had been killed?
and yes....oh fu cking yes, you suggesting abortion for autistic children is going to p iss me off MAJOR BIG TIME!
it is now becoming personal.
No I would not have preferred her son be killed. I can not choose for another person or couple...they would have chosen to be exactly where they are had they known, which they did not.
Since people claim to be pro life, I want to know just how pro life they are. Does one sacrifice one's whole life for another? Does one sacrifice one's health? Just what is okay to give up?
If one can not raise that child there is little support for that child. We are not set up in our society with group homes etc where one can safely hand over one's child and know that child is receiving proper care especially with a child who cannot communicate. So how pro life is that? Why are most of the people who are pro-life or rather anti abortion quite willing to say everyone must fend for themselves? I don't see that as pro anything i see it more as anti everything.
I think there is a huge difference betweem pro-life and anti abortion, most people do not distinguish.
And respectfully Gerry as for you being pi ssed off you are mostly always pis sed off with mostly everyone on here most of the time.
it takes a saint to handle this kid, luckily for the kid, my girlfriend is...I am not
I agree with a lot of what you say, Sal. The only thing I would add is there is long waiting list of people waiting to adopt children. Having said that I doubt if the list is very long for physically and mentally "challenged" children. Quite often I see badly retarded adults being wheeled around in a wheel chair, they can't speak, a lot of them appear to be in pain, apart from just sitting there and staring they appear to be totally dysfunctional, while I can't speak for them, I do wonder what enjoyment or fulfillment they get out of life. On the other hand unless you are their mother you can't make a fully accurate judgment.
I'm sure they would have, enforcing my comment about it saying more about you than them.
For your child....sacrifice everything..... for your spouse...sacrifice everything.
I don't know about Ontario, but in BC the above is completely wrong.
No shyte exlax.... right wing anti-abortion hypocrites get my scorn as much as pro abortion murderers do as, the right wing anti-abortionists have no problem killing those that have already born.
When it comes to Autism, you are talking about killing children and young Adults of my blood. In my mind, your shaking hands with Olson.
Obviously.
Posted to my Facebook timeline concerning this suggestion: "they should be thankful stupid can't be detected until later in life..."
And like I always say, when someone is emotional about something, the rational and logic fly out the window.
That was in response to me informing my family about the abortion suggestion/implication of Autistic children. It was referring to the ignorant piece of garbage that made the suggestion/implication.
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