Jodi Arias speaks to jury, pleads for life

[Mowich]

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If they're smart they'll keep the death penalty on the table so that life without parole is the palatable option, and life with a chance of parole never factors into the equation.

That would be the best outcome, IMO, Karrie with the proviso that she is never ever allowed in front of a reporter's camera again sparing the Alexander family from anymore of her self-serving interviews.

 

[#juan]

Yes, they do, at least in the USA.

O.J. Simpson was NOT guilty of murdering Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman as judged by criminal court jury. Yet a civil court jury held him legally responsible for their deaths.

A civil case has a lower burden of proof ..

The first O.J. Simpson trial was a joke. The jury ruled in direct opposition to the evidence. Judge Ito should have been thrown off the case.

 

[karrie]

The first O.J. Simpson trial was a joke. The jury ruled in direct opposition to the evidence. Judge Ito should have been thrown off the case.

That's another HUGE part of why I oppose the death penalty.

Sentencing, and even conviction, have been proven to be subjective, and influenced by things like cultural background, affluence and looks much moreso than the actual crime committed. It makes the application of the death penalty an uneven, unfair system. Especially when known killers walk away due to fame and affluence.

 

[Walter]

Do fingernails grow faster as you get older? It seems that way to me.

 

[JLM]

That's another HUGE part of why I oppose the death penalty.

I agree 99% but it's good in cases where there is "smokin' gun" evidence or D.N.A.

 

[karrie]

I agree 99% but it's good in cases where there is "smokin' gun" evidence or D.N.A.

Not when you consider that if you have a good looking rich person with a smoking gun, he's less likely to face the death penalty, than a poor ugly person with a smoking gun.

 

[BaalsTears]

Naow, naow, 'the MAN' allegedly penetrated her, uhh, 'tushie' with one of his body parts.

That should win her full acquittal and a massive victim's settlement...

Tut tut, Gentlemen. we must not be cads when a maiden's honour is a stake...

such a deed ranks down there with pinning your Order of Lenin to your raincoat in order to mislead russian virgins...

Jodi Arias was empowered and wasn't going to let any man just use her and walk away. She decided to show him. Well, I guess she did show him.

 

[karrie]

Jodi Arias Trial Update: Jury Unable to Agree on Death Penalty, Mistrial Called - YouTube

 

[B00Mer]

Jodi Arias Trial Update: Jury Unable to Agree on Death Penalty, Mistrial Called - YouTube

Just the penalty phase is a mistrial..

 

[karrie]

Just the penalty phase is a mistrial..

Yes, that's what the article says

 

[JLM]

Not when you consider that if you have a good looking rich person with a smoking gun, he's less likely to face the death penalty, than a poor ugly person with a smoking gun.

That is true, with all the high technology these days that irregularity can be abolished, you just feed all the facts into the computer and let the computer generate the sentence. You could get the bars icon, the rope icon or Ol' Smoky icon.

 

[Goober]

That is true, with all the high technology these days that irregularity can be abolished, you just feed all the facts into the computer and let the computer generate the sentence. You could get the bars icon, the rope icon or Ol' Smoky icon.

The ethnicity would have to be added as African Americans are more likely to receive a harsher prison sentence than whites and at a substantially higher rate for the Death Penalty.

 

[karrie]

That is true, with all the high technology these days that irregularity can be abolished, you just feed all the facts into the computer and let the computer generate the sentence. You could get the bars icon, the rope icon or Ol' Smoky icon.

Ah yes, wash our hands of the decision to kill someone. That would make it better.

 

[JLM]

The ethnicity would have to be added as African Americans are more likely to receive a harsher prison sentence than whites and at a substantially higher rate for the Death Penalty.

For that very reason I would say ethnicity should be left out of it.

 

[Goober]

For that very reason I would say ethnicity should be left out of it.

What purpose does the DP serve. I have listed 4 points
1 Does it prevent others from committing that same crime?
2 Is it enforced equally?
3 Is it cost effective?
4 Are innocent persons executed?

A yes or no is sufficient.

 

[Sal]

What purpose does the DP serve. I have listed 4 points
1 Does it prevent others from committing that same crime?
2 Is it enforced equally?
3 Is it cost effective?
4 Are innocent persons executed?

A yes or no is sufficient.

1. no
2. no
3. no
4. yes

does it make us as a society more barbaric: yes
do victims feel a sense of closure: stats say no

 

[Goober]

1. no
2. no
3. no
4. yes

does it make us as a society more barbaric: yes
do victims feel a sense of closure: stats say no

Closure- My gawd do I despise that term. No such thing- To have complete closure would entail a memory dump.
Not gonna happen.
And I agree with your answers. Others may not, but they have much to learn yet.

 

[JLM]

What purpose does the DP serve. I have listed 4 points
1 Does it prevent others from committing that same crime?
2 Is it enforced equally?
3 Is it cost effective?
4 Are innocent persons executed?

A yes or no is sufficient.

1. Yes, a few smart people would think twice.
2. It can be, within each jurisdiction.
3. Yes, if done properly
4. No if it's only used in cases where there is a smoking gun, D.N.A. and not for isolated offenses.
Actually it would be beneficial in some cases. In the David Milgaard case I doubt if he would have been convicted, knowing a conviction would result in a death sentence.

 

[karrie]

1. Yes, a few smart people would think twice.
2. It can be, within each jurisdiction.
3. Yes, if done properly
4. No if it's only used in cases where there is a smoking gun, D.N.A. and not for isolated offenses.
Actually it would be beneficial in some cases. In the David Milgaard case I doubt if he would have been convicted, knowing a conviction would result in a death sentence.

Sorry, but 2, 3, and 4 are not reality. They're how you'd like to see it done, but not how it IS done.

 

[petros]

In a world were cops have to justify spending time and money on an investigation corners get cut, facts are created from fiction and convictions doled out all in the name of justifying the expense.

Who cares if it's only a minority being wrongfully convicted?

They are just a blight on society anyway and are better off in the pokey than collecting welfare or working illegally.. Right?